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Title: What wood you do
Post by: LUCPARK on January 28, 2023, 09:54:17 PM
Let’s ask the question
What wood u do if one of these
Convicted guys killed your horse

And u found out

It was intentional

Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: Parked on January 28, 2023, 10:31:13 PM
 Badmouth him daily on plop
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: chowhound on January 29, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
Take a ball bat to the piece of filth.
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: panhunter on January 30, 2023, 08:09:41 AM
With proof get him lifetime ban!
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: jupiter on January 30, 2023, 11:03:51 AM
I agree with the ball bat. But a ball pein hammer on each of his fingers and toes seems to be better, and tattoo my horses name on his forehead. He'd live with it every day. 
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: MCR on January 30, 2023, 02:09:24 PM
Let’s ask the question
What wood u do if one of these
Convicted guys killed your horse

And u found out

It was intentional
I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals. 
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: Open bridle on January 30, 2023, 04:30:27 PM
Only use trainers you completely trust 100% who puts the horse's welfare first. Not the trainers who puts winning first to the detriment of the horse.
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: Mazola on January 30, 2023, 10:10:17 PM
I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals.

Are you sniffing glue or something?
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: jupiter on January 31, 2023, 10:30:26 AM
Didn't mean for them to die, accidents happen, so it's ok for the dead horses. MCR you must be in a fing dream world, NO EXCUSE
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: Harness racer on January 31, 2023, 01:31:33 PM
I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals.

You are a breath of fresh air to the forum.  We were running low on idiots!  Just because they didn't walk up and shoot the horse in the face doesn't make it ok asshole!  You are a special kind of stupid and I hope SCM reads this and gives you a talking to.
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: dinkadoo on January 31, 2023, 01:52:37 PM
What percentage of owners --- didn't know that Surick or the Tbred guys were gassing ?

I would say 80-90% of owners knew these guys had something. And they loved every minute of it winning races, cashing tickets, getting purse checks and taking their picture with friends in the winners circle.

And if they say they would like to rough anyone up -- they're a damn hypocrite.

Surick got caught on a wire tap talking about 6 dead horses.  How many really was it --- directly juiced by the main traffickers or those who bought the drugs and used on their barn.  when -- if at anytime -- will the next wave of trainers get busted ?? or is this a black eye that will get swept under the rug ?
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: Harness racer on January 31, 2023, 06:12:19 PM
Doesn't everyone remember the video of the guy referring to Navaro as "juiceman"?  That guy isn't the only one who knew!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4wm0DhlUOJA
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: Trott on January 31, 2023, 07:33:53 PM
To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.      Hey MCR, How do you sit up with a back bone like that?
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: kooter for hipin on January 31, 2023, 08:42:17 PM
I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals.

Actually, "they" have "killed" many horses. When I was actively racing in the late 60's thru 80's, the economy was great and people were paying huge prices for yearlings even by today's standards. Well, when high priced yearlings or even some overnights went bust, they became victims of "Jewish Lightning", not meant to be an anti-semetic term. Since horses have "0" impedance to electricity, when a thunder storm came calling, the horses was taken out of the barn to one of the paddocks. A12 volt car battery was hooked to the horse, mostly the lip, and then to a ground and the horse died instantly. The death was then blamed on lightening. This worked for maybe two years or so before insurance companies got hip. But there's always another scam out there as you probably already know or some, maybe not.
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: panhunter on February 02, 2023, 01:41:42 PM
Let’s ask the question
What wood u do if one of these
Convicted guys killed your horse

And u found out

It was intentional
I’d ask Brian Boitano what he would do!
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: COUNSELOR on February 02, 2023, 11:30:41 PM
WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO THESE FELLAS ----DID HAPPEN!  AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT IS GOING TO GET MUCH WORSE ON THOSE THAT CONTINUE TO DO THIS TO THE ANIMALS OF THE TRADE.  THESE SELECT FEW HAVE DAMAGED THE SPORT AND HURT SO MANY THAT ARE TRYING TO EARN AN HONEST LIVING.

THE INDUSTRY MUST SELF POLICE AS WELL---LET YOUR NEIGHBOR DO THESE ILLEGAL DRUGS ON THEIR HORSES AND IT IS GOING TO HURT YOU.

ANYONE FOLLOW DOG RACING AT PALM BEACH KENNEL CLUB?  OH, I FORGOT IT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. 

IF I WAS IN THIS SPORT AND I AM NOT---I WOULD SELF POLICE AND SAVE MY SPORT AND MY CAREER  THERE IS TOO MUCH OF THIS AND THE SPORT MUST POLICE ITSELF.  THOSE GOING TO PRISON WILL NEVER RECOVER.  I MEAN NEVER.  THEY WILL NEVER LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AGAIN ---NEVER.  THE MILLIONS IN RESTITUTION WILL NEVER GO AWAY.  LET THEM TELL THEIR KIDS WHY THEY CANNOT OWN A CAR---A HOME.  WHY THEY CANNOT GO TO CANADA OR OTHER VACATION AREAS.  WHY THEY CAN NEVER OWN A FIREARM.  WHY IF THEY GET STOPPED FOR A SPEEDING TICKET THEY ARE HIGHLY SCRUTINIZED.

I READ THIS FORUM AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS ARE ABSURD.  THESE FELLAS WILL NEVER LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AGAIN----EVER.   THEY MAY HAVE A NEW "HOTTIE" UNTIL THEY REPORT BUT AFTER THAT TRY TO SPEND 5 YEARS LOCKED UP OR IN THE "SHU"!!!

ONLY A FOOL WOULD MARRY SOMEONE THAT OWES MILLIONS IN RESTITUTION BECAUSE THE SPOUSE WILL BE UNDER THE SCRUTINY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMANT AND CAN IN FACT PURSUE SPOUSES AND SPOUSES BE CHARGED FOR HIDING ASSETS.   HOW ABOUT NEVER RECEIVE A TAX REFUND IF YOU ARE MARRIED TO A FORMER CONVICT----I MEAN NEVER.   HOW ABOUT TRYING TO SELL YOUR HOUSE----REFINANCE YOUR HOUSE WITH YOUR WIFE----GUYS, I TRULY DO NOT BELEIVE ANYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT HAS OCCURRED AND WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO OCCUR.

THE INDUSTRY HAS INVITED SERIOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO THEIR SPORT AND THIS WILL CONTINUE.   THIS IS THE START----NOT THE FINISH.
Title: Re: What wood you do
Post by: John1417 on February 03, 2023, 11:56:49 AM
I would send your friends Tony and Angelo to resolve the problem.
The only question is do they break the left knee, the right knee, or both ???
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