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Title: Cannibal to stud
Post by: Laag on November 02, 2023, 09:05:05 PM
why? why not race....is he really that attractive given all the other horses out there from the past decade
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on November 02, 2023, 09:30:00 PM
He's a nothing horse.  He quits if he gets looked in the eye.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: LUCPARK on November 02, 2023, 10:09:20 PM
New York farm paid 2.5 for him


Indy farm offered 1.5.

Fact
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: Foalin at 4 on November 02, 2023, 10:13:31 PM
New York farm paid 2.5 for him


Indy farm offered 1.5.

Fact
 
   


   
     OUCH, I feel sorry for Tom if that's true. Can't see him getting more than 60-70 mares.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: chester on November 02, 2023, 10:43:38 PM
Confederate will be announced soon to stand in PA for 20 thousand a pop
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: JIDGE on November 02, 2023, 10:48:20 PM
Blue Chip is apparently partners with Diamond Creek on this one. After he finishes out his 3yr. old career he'll be syndicated, then stands for $6K in New York, where they will now allow shipped semen. His win in the Jug proves he can handle a half, so NY was a logical choice.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on November 03, 2023, 11:05:44 AM
1500k stud fee??
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2023, 11:50:32 AM
He wasn't a factor in the big races, hasn't even made a million dollars which is the benchmark for stallions.  He won't last as a stallion ranks, he's just the flavor of the week.

Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: Brown jug on November 03, 2023, 12:10:42 PM
very nice horse
has showed his speed
strong pedigree
so he couldn't beat confederate, nobody could
a different drive/trip in the jug finals and he is top 2 for sure
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: SDST2009 on November 04, 2023, 05:24:33 PM
I don't find him particularly impressive but there is really nothing saying he won't make a better sire than anyone else, including Confederate. Not always the best performer that makes the best sire.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: Stan durbread on November 04, 2023, 07:25:49 PM
He has a great pedigree and did well on the 1/2   He will get 140 mares off the bat. If you don’t think so then look at his competitors there. Huntsville is best ATM
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: SDST2009 on November 04, 2023, 08:26:24 PM
He has a great pedigree and did well on the 1/2   He will get 140 mares off the bat. If you don’t think so then look at his competitors there. Huntsville is best ATM

Good call. That state is not pacer-strong.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: JIDGE on November 04, 2023, 09:47:49 PM
Shipped semen is really going to improve the sire stake program in NY. Now you don't have to ship a mare and a two-week-old foal to NY to get bred to a local stallion.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: SDST2009 on November 04, 2023, 09:54:39 PM
Shipped semen is really going to improve the sire stake program in NY. Now you don't have to ship a mare and a two-week-old foal to NY to get bred to a local stallion.

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Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 04, 2023, 09:55:18 PM
Good call. That state is not pacer-strong.
I think Huntsville is so extraordinary that he is making real good sires look average. I still think American Ideal is damn good and probably underrated.
Title: Re: Cannibal to stud
Post by: SDST2009 on November 04, 2023, 10:02:42 PM
I think Huntsville is so extraordinary that he is making real good sires look average. I still think American Ideal is damn good and probably underrated.

I will take your word for it. I am not as up to date on the pacing sires as trotters, and not super in tune with NY in general. I've seen good Huntsvilles outside of NY; good American Ideal fillies outside of NY; and not much else from a pacing perspective. There is so much $$ in NY though, you don't need to leave the state to do well so I am sure there are some real killers that never reach the other states because there's no need.
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