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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Locked in with pace on September 10, 2022, 05:25:43 AM
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Yesterday at Harrahs Philly . 11 OF THE 14 RACES, BELOW ARE THE WIN PAYOFFS CARD, 80% OF THE CARD.
$3.80
$3.60
$4.60
$4.00
$2.80
$2.40
$3.20
$2.40
$4.00
$2.20
$2.20
AND THIS TREND IS SEEN EVERYWHERE.
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Crazy bad, it’s a dead game
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agree
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Yesterday at Harrahs Philly . 11 OF THE 14 RACES, BELOW ARE THE WIN PAYOFFS CARD, 80% OF THE CARD.
$3.80
$3.60
$4.60
$4.00
$2.80
$2.40
$3.20
$2.40
$4.00
$2.20
$2.20
AND THIS TREND IS SEEN EVERYWHERE.
Years ago (many) it was said if 30% of favorites won , not necessarily morning line favorites, the race secretary was going a good job. It now seems that has flip flopped to 70 or more win. There are just a very few race secretaries now, its people who put races together. They use the crazy TM rating system that no one can figure out. Harness racing is on a very steep downhill roll and the % of winning favorites is a large part of that trend.
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If anyone thought it was difficult to appeal to a new and younger fan for harness racing on any scale in the past, you will find it almost impossible now.
Harness racing made the conscious choice to give up on the live product and concentrate on the all sources handle. In doing so, in reality it gave up any marketing teeth it had.
Now, that the sports betting is where all the effort is at, harness racing has lost the more market share to an entity like the NFL.
The biggest lies ever told were: When mom and her friends come to the Racino to play slots, dad and the boys will go over to the other side and play the horses. Also, when we have the slot money feeding the purse account, owners will buy more and better horses and that will fill the grandstand with fans and gamblers.
So when track owners defund the only proprietary marketing tool they have and decide to enter the market of on line wagering with a tired and dull product with great risk and little returns, is there any wonder this industry goes backward every year?
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If anyone thought it was difficult to appeal to a new and younger fan for harness racing on any scale in the past, you will find it almost impossible now.
Harness racing made the conscious choice to give up on the live product and concentrate on the all sources handle. In doing so, in reality it gave up any marketing teeth it had.
Now, that the sports betting is where all the effort is at, harness racing has lost the more market share to an entity like the NFL.
The biggest lies ever told were: When mom and her friends come to the Racino to play slots, dad and the boys will go over to the other side and play the horses. Also, when we have the slot money feeding the purse account, owners will buy more and better horses and that will fill the grandstand with fans and gamblers.
So when track owners defund the only proprietary marketing tool they have and decide to enter the market of on line wagering with a tired and dull product with great risk and little returns, is there any wonder this industry goes backward every year?
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If anyone thought it was difficult to appeal to a new and younger fan for harness racing on any scale in the past, you will find it almost impossible now.
Harness racing made the conscious choice to give up on the live product and concentrate on the all sources handle. In doing so, in reality it gave up any marketing teeth it had.
Now, that the sports betting is where all the effort is at, harness racing has lost the more market share to an entity like the NFL.
The biggest lies ever told were: When mom and her friends come to the Racino to play slots, dad and the boys will go over to the other side and play the horses. Also, when we have the slot money feeding the purse account, owners will buy more and better horses and that will fill the grandstand with fans and gamblers.
So when track owners defund the only proprietary marketing tool they have and decide to enter the market of on line wagering with a tired and dull product with great risk and little returns, is there any wonder this industry goes backward every year?
TLDR but...
You're just another crying horseman sobbing about all the mean people who ruined your life.
You know horsemen signed those racino-enabling deals?
You know you were short-sighted and took the higher front-end money?
You know you could have demanded and gotten better terms but you were impatient and greedy?
You know all these things.
But here you are blaming the mean casino people who don't want to support your trifling, crying ass any longer than they need to.
Let me see you say, "Calhoun, you're right. It's my fault."
Otherwise, just GSAC
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Yesterday at Harrahs Philly . 11 OF THE 14 RACES, BELOW ARE THE WIN PAYOFFS CARD, 80% OF THE CARD.
$3.80
$3.60
$4.60
$4.00
$2.80
$2.40
$3.20
$2.40
$4.00
$2.20
$2.20
AND THIS TREND IS SEEN EVERYWHERE.
YOU KNOW YOU ARE ALLOWED BET ON THEM OR KEY IN GIMMICK WAGERS
TRYING TO BEAT THE CHALK IS AS MUCH OF YOU BEING POOR HANDICAPPER IN TRYING TO DO SO AND JUST SKIPPING THE RACE AND MOVING ON OR DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO BET EVERY RACE?
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TLDR but...
You're just another crying horseman sobbing about all the mean people who ruined your life.
You know horsemen signed those racino-enabling deals?
You know you were short-sighted and took the higher front-end money?
You know you could have demanded and gotten better terms but you were impatient and greedy?
You know all these things.
But here you are blaming the mean casino people who don't want to support your trifling, crying ass any longer than they need to.
Let me see you say, "Calhoun, you're right. It's my fault."
Otherwise, just GSAC
Another tough guy post from the resident scumbag.
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Another tough guy post from the resident scumbag.
Oh stop
You’re being silly now
Sound like jersey mike the submarine Sandwhich guy ngc3 ngc3
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I recall the complaints 50 years ago about harness racing having low prices, too many favorites winning, too many odd-on favorites, etc. But it does seem today that EVERY race has an odds-on favorite. Getting a fair price for a favorite is getting more and more difficult.
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Another tough guy post from the resident scumbag.
I'll take your cane, push you down and piss on your bald head.
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Tracks owned by casinos don't care about the handle. Most are run by casinos that down deep don't want racing. The only one that complains about the handle is the Meadowlands which is not coupled with any casino. They rely on state subsidies and a small amount from Sports Betting. And every year across the country the handle will go down for there is no new blood and whatever regular customers there are will be dying off.
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I'll take your cane, push you down and piss on your bald head.
Please, tough guy, Pigland is 1-9 to beat you to a pulp while Lukepark butt fucks the bravado out of you.
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Please, tough guy, Pigland is 1-9 to beat you to a pulp while Lukepark butt fucks the bravado out of you.
agree
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I know of perhaps a dozen big bettors who sadly have passed, never to make another bet. Their sons & grandsons couldn't care less about harness racing - Too busy playing with their iPhones & Pee-Pees.