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Title: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: smokingjoe on May 13, 2023, 12:28:59 PM
Been told Surick is telling everyone he will only be sentence now to house arrest. If true, shame on all those involved who let this piece of s*** get off.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 13, 2023, 12:54:03 PM
Been told Surick is telling everyone he will only be sentence now to house arrest. If true, shame on all those involved who let this piece of s*** get off.

Anyone can sign up for a PACER account and search federally prosecuted cases and if in the Surick case docket has that update (House Arrest), odds on favorite to be one of these if it's true - he's sick, he's diming, Judge Mary has grown a loving heart for him!  ;D

https://pacer.uscourts.gov/

In the meantime Rick Dutrow is BACK and where are you wayos to tell me first race back WIN, second race PLACE:

Belmont Park - 5/11/2023
Race    Race Type    Breed    Horse    Finish    Jockey    Chart    Video
8    Starter Allowance    TB    Timbuktu    2    Irad Ortiz, Jr.       

Belmont Park - 5/6/2023
Race    Race Type    Breed    Horse    Finish    Jockey    Chart    Video
6    Allowance    TB    Prince of Pharoahs    1    Eric Cancel    

The hits just keep on coming, fucking the gambler and horse over is on a perpetual winning streak!    73cv.2
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: London on May 13, 2023, 01:10:48 PM
What the fucks the sense,, be a cheat, they will love you forever...
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 13, 2023, 01:20:59 PM
What the fucks the sense,, be a cheat, they will love you forever...

You earn (and steal / cheat) enough money, you get a mouth piece in an "empty suit" to rep you, it's not "love" (or fear), it's need, they create it with someone knowing they are a cancer to the rest of us inc their industry.   tmbz1

Just a matter of time until an animal advocate, their cult, goes bat shit crazy turns Dahmer on them, and their population will diminish based on their appetite.  That and an FBI Gambler Christmas that never comes!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: kingthermo on May 13, 2023, 02:54:22 PM
Counselor has all the answers, please respond sir.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 13, 2023, 03:30:33 PM
Counselor has all the answers, please respond sir.

Counselor has been inactive here for 2 months, you might want to prod him awake, check on his well being, as we await his "experienced" and "informed" response to advise!   

You need better BATMAN signals in the night sky!   ;D

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Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: LUCPARK on May 13, 2023, 04:10:49 PM
 hes got a new girlfriand

and bought  big ass condo in manhattan

i thi nk hes ready to settle down
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: augustaandy on May 13, 2023, 04:43:36 PM
will he be back as the leading trainer at Freehold?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 13, 2023, 04:47:41 PM
hes got a new girlfriand

and bought  big ass condo in manhattan

i thi nk hes ready to settle down

Should of got a big ass girlfriend and smaller condo, with 2 bathrooms, one again for the fairer sex's sweet ass, and a crapper for him.   tmbz1  73cv.2

Never let big money and pussy be a failing of the Plop frat -- they come and go we don't as long as we're breathing and with a restless dime in our pocket!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: WillieGoldberg on May 13, 2023, 05:03:28 PM
Nice Surick was employed by the Grande Dame of harness racing, Michelle Crawford.  Her integrity is above reproach, and she wouldn't employ a cheat trainer.  Surick was likely a patsy.  A term of probation seems about right.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 13, 2023, 05:14:45 PM
Nice Surick was employed by the Grande Dame of harness racing, Michelle Crawford.  Her integrity is above reproach, and she wouldn't employ a cheat trainer.  Surick was likely a patsy.  A term of probation seems about right.

 ngc3 ngc3

Nicholas "Nick" (Lee Harvey Oswald) Surick, patsy.  ngc3

"“You know how many f—ing horses he (Navarro) f—ing killed and broke down that I made disappear,” Surick told Tannuzzo. “You know how much trouble he could get in … if they found out … the six horses we killed?”"

Source:  FBI Intercepted call

Your patsy is a peach, you're a lackey hack relative or friend.....we got your number WillieGoldberg!  Go stand behind a kicking horse numb-nuts!   ;D

Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: LUCPARK on May 13, 2023, 06:40:18 PM
ngc3 ngc3

Nicholas "Nick" (Lee Harvey Oswald) Surick, patsy.  ngc3

"“You know how many f—ing horses he (Navarro) f—ing killed and broke down that I made disappear,” Surick told Tannuzzo. “You know how much trouble he could get in … if they found out … the six horses we killed?”"

Source:  FBI Intercepted call

Your patsy is a peach, you're a lackey hack relative or friend.....we got your number WillieGoldberg!  Go stand behind a kicking horse numb-nuts!   ;D

TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING

HES A FAMILY MAN

GOOD GUY
AND A CHRISTIAN  tmbz1
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 13, 2023, 06:49:34 PM
TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING

HES A FAMILY MAN

GOOD GUY
AND A CHRISTIAN  tmbz1

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Absolutely, I see horses shooting up dope, getting on their cell's to re-up with their connect, slap the sulky on the other horse and if need be pick up a shovel and dig a hole for their pals that didn't make it on the OD!

The horses did it, obviously  tmbz1 all these human clown patsy's are upstanding fall guys!  Dopey fucking FBI scumbag traderous set up!  I had to bang my head against a wall 25 times to get this far in the conversation Roc....we'll give your guys Surick, etc the family rate, when we BURY the whole Christian lot of them!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: LUCPARK on May 13, 2023, 09:16:33 PM
Now that’s fckin funny

Word out 73cv.2 73cv.2 11.wp
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: wecandream on May 14, 2023, 12:10:34 AM
Well so how long is house arrest then?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 14, 2023, 12:29:22 AM
Well so how long is house arrest then?

We're volunteering to handcuff you to him on behalf of the United States Department of Justice & Corrections so no longer any stupid, irrelevant questions like this, you'll be the first to know and inform the rest of us! Thank you!  ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2023, 01:09:44 AM
Well so how long is house arrest then?
at the rate its going,maybe 7 minutes
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 14, 2023, 01:11:50 AM
at the rate its going,maybe 7 minutes

IT'S 73cv.2 TOO ngc3 LATE 73cv.2 TO ngc3 LAUGH 73cv.2 THIS ngc3 LOUD!! ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: wecandream on May 14, 2023, 03:21:03 AM
Half asleep when I typed that so, No I meant to ask how long of a time frame until he starts the house arrest? The Court was back in February and he’s still not in jail yet.  How does one manage something like this with the courts?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: The Exporter on May 14, 2023, 08:44:32 AM
Half asleep when I typed that so, No I meant to ask how long of a time frame until he starts the house arrest? The Court was back in February and he’s still not in jail yet.  How does one manage something like this with the courts?
There is no way this prissy little rat gets house arrest. His complicity in this mess, including killing and hiding of carcasses demand he does time.
 Nicky Shower Shoes has no doubt been squealing like a porked pig of every criminal act he can lay on someone else, to save his gutless ass from going down.
I don't care if he gives them the shooter, beyond the grassy knoll, this girlyman is doing time. 
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 14, 2023, 09:50:34 AM
There is no way this prissy little rat gets house arrest. His complicity in this mess, including killing and hiding of carcasses demand he does time.
 Nicky Shower Shoes has no doubt been squealing like a porked pig of every criminal act he can lay on someone else, to save his gutless ass from going down.
I don't care if he gives them the shooter, beyond the grassy knoll, this girlyman is doing time.

 ngc3 Priceless!
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: LUCPARK on May 14, 2023, 10:33:45 AM
There is no way this prissy little rat gets house arrest. His complicity in this mess, including killing and hiding of carcasses demand he does time.
 Nicky Shower Shoes has no doubt been squealing like a porked pig of every criminal act he can lay on someone else, to save his gutless ass from going down.
I don't care if he gives them the shooter, beyond the grassy knoll, this girlyman is doing time.
 

i got 100 bucks says he doesnt  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 14, 2023, 10:40:09 AM
 

i got 100 bucks says he doesnt  ;D ;D


 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: jupiter on May 14, 2023, 12:23:16 PM
He's trying to play the long game.He still is waiting for his Appeal!! He still thinks this is like the racing commission. He's on tape, he lied to them, voiding his deal. Sorry, Sooner or later he's going to PRISON not county jail, PRISON, just like all his pals and co conspirators. NO FREE WALK! Can't wait for the day.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 14, 2023, 01:19:28 PM
This POS keeps lawyering up, I can’t imagine what his lawyer bills are. Hopefully they leave him penniless considering all the money he stole from legitimate bettors, trainers and owners.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: wecandream on May 14, 2023, 10:20:31 PM
Jupiter,
How does one appeal after pleading Guilty?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: MikeAnt on May 15, 2023, 12:10:15 AM
Nick Surick = the OJ Simpson of harness racing getting away with murder.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: bond on May 15, 2023, 09:13:09 AM
There is no way this prissy little rat gets house arrest. His complicity in this mess, including killing and hiding of carcasses demand he does time.
 Nicky Shower Shoes has no doubt been squealing like a porked pig of every criminal act he can lay on someone else, to save his gutless ass from going down.
I don't care if he gives them the shooter, beyond the grassy knoll, this girlyman is doing time.
tmbz1 well said.
Appealing is just a way to buy time-and Im hoping his lawyers take him for every cent he has by dragging this out-because thats whats happening. His Lawyers may be requesting house arrest as thats the only place this bottom feeder wont get the beating of his life=== as snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches in prison. In any case house arrest/county jail/jail--after that's over his days in racing are done. If he tries anything he better be like Houdini-because the FBI will be all over this informant scumbag.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 15, 2023, 09:29:11 AM
I'm not sure where all this speculation on Surick (House Arrest) is coming from, I just spoke with Roseanne who works for the Deputy in Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil Chambers (Surick's judge).  I found a resource for you to see actual up to date court records on the Surick case circumventing Pacer which you'd have to sign up and pay for searches:

(Third one down in link below or document 1035)

https://judicialcaselaw.com/courts/nysd/cases/1_20-cr-00160-MKV

There could be negotiations happening (defense and prosecution?), but the case docket is the ledger where it shows matters of motions, notations, settled, etc...and until the JUDGE agrees it's not factual!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: bond on May 15, 2023, 09:38:46 AM
I'm not sure where all this speculation on Surick (House Arrest) is coming from, I just spoke with Roseanne who works for the Deputy in Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil Chambers (Surick's judge).  I found a resource for you to see actual up to date court records on the Surick case circumventing Pacer which you'd have to sign up and pay for searches:

(Third one down in link below or document 1035)

https://judicialcaselaw.com/courts/nysd/cases/1_20-cr-00160-MKV

There could be negotiations happening (defense and prosecution?), but the case docket is the ledger where it shows matters of motions, notations, settled, etc...and until the JUDGE agrees it's not factual!  tmbz1
Nice work!!
One question--why wouldnt this cockroach just disappear to Mexico or someplace in South America? The interest on the 42M alone he owes-will guarantee that he will be working for the Government the rest of his life. By the way--what is the interest rate on money owed by felons in prison.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 15, 2023, 09:45:38 AM
Nice work!!
One question--why wouldnt this cockroach just disappear to Mexico or someplace in South America? The interest on the 42M alone he owes-will guarantee that he will be working for the Government the rest of his life.

Bro, the guy (and others therein) got caught on a recorded line, how old were we when we learned to talk in lingo, or whispered in someones ear.

Within harness racing they fucked us and the law, and now they're fucked, but we'd give them too much credit seeking a non-extradition country....plus it's not life in prison, time he could do standing on his head if he's a MAN, and as far as (hiding) money, assets if you have loyal family and friends, lawyers too who could hide it in trust accounts under other names, accountants who off shore ----- the govt would have to consider you a TERRORIST to go to those lengths to interrogate, search, find and retrieve it!  Naaah!

We'll see what happens!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 15, 2023, 09:53:01 AM
By the way--what is the interest rate on money owed by felons in prison.

Since you edited and added this late, after I responded, here you go:

https://www.uscourts.gov/services-forms/fees/post-judgement-interest-rate/18-usca-ss-3612-post-judgment-interest-rates
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Casualfan1 on May 15, 2023, 11:11:33 AM
Nicky boy isn’t getting any house arrest and as for the new girlfriend she will soon be like the hot ex wife. SHE GONE!!   Nick deserves prison and a good beaten while he’s in there.  Maybe the most disliked horseman if not human I know. 
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: jupiter on May 15, 2023, 04:13:06 PM
I have no idea how he could appeal, unless, he's trying to get a new deal Who else could he throw under the bus? Will we hear new names? If he does give up more, can they nail him for not giving all the info the first time? The scum bag should do every day of his sentence!! Pay ALL the restitution!!! NO DEALS FOR THIS POS
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 15, 2023, 04:39:26 PM
I have no idea how he could appeal, unless, he's trying to get a new deal Who else could he throw under the bus? Will we hear new names? If he does give up more, can they nail him for not giving all the info the first time? The scum bag should do every day of his sentence!! Pay ALL the restitution!!! NO DEALS FOR THIS POS

As per wecandream's question, you not being sure, there is no legal basis to appeal a plea deal that for example  Surick's lawyer would of advised and he, Surick agreed and signed.

He could submit a motion to withdraw the plea deal.....but he better have a WORLD CLASS REASON.......FOR EXAMPLE  tmbz1 he packs his ass full of nutella, then stands before the judge, says your honor I wasn't of sound mind when I signed this plea deal and reaches in behind his pants and pulls out and spreads some of that nutella all over his mouth and face!  Motion granted, plea withdrawn, psych the prisoner!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: PIGLAND on May 15, 2023, 05:35:48 PM
maybe he ratted .more trainers out?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 15, 2023, 05:51:39 PM
maybe he ratted .more trainers out?

Very possible, wouldn't end up in the court record to compromise that new ongoing investigation until and if they unseal and indict anyone else.

If he (Surick) mentioned anyone in OC related to the entire SHEBANG, either way he'd likely be spared jail, but in this case he and his family would be offered WITSEC!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: wecandream on May 15, 2023, 07:52:55 PM
Senator,
What does that stand for?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 15, 2023, 07:55:56 PM
Senator,
What does that stand for?

Animal House, 1978
Horseplop, 2023
 

Witness Security = WITSEC ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: wecandream on May 16, 2023, 09:48:04 PM
Senator,
Thank you.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 16, 2023, 09:56:35 PM
Senator,
Thank you.

In the movies, tv shows they call it the witness protection program, and when I said OC, I mean the abbreviation for Organized Crime like mafia, cartel, gang.... ;D

If you never saw this movie, My Blue Heaven, with Steve Martin, it's a laugh riot!  Here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDPdQMSw2ck
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: wecandream on May 17, 2023, 03:53:37 AM
Senator,
Omg! You are too funny! The Trailor!
Yeah I think this may go that way. Yup!
I don’t think Sandals is going in the clinker
Anytime soon…..
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: COUNSELOR on May 18, 2023, 01:14:07 AM
I HAVE READ THESE POST FROM THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND TRUTHFULLY-------HOGWASH.   MR. SURICK WAS SENTENCED AS PER HIS PLEA DEAL.  THE PROSECUTOR WAS SMART BY SUGGESTING TO THE COURT THAT A LIGHTER SENTENCE BE APPLIED DUE TO HIS COPERATION EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS LIES.   MR. SURICK APPEALED ---YES.   HIS APPEAL COVERS LEGAL PROCEDURE AND QUESTIONS OF LAW---NOT THE FACTS OF THE CASE AS THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DECIDED AND YES, MR. SURICK PLED GUILTY.   HE WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO WITHDRAW HIS PLEA AS HE WAS ADVISED BY REPUTABLE COUNSEL TO PLEA AND HE DID SO.   WHAT REASON COULD HE GIVE TO WITHDRAW HIS PLEA?????    NONE!  EVEN IF HE DID THE JUDGE WOULD NOT GRANT IT.

MR SURICK WS SENTENCED AND HE WILL SERVE HIS SENTENCE.   THE SEALED DOCUMENTS ARE REGARDING THE COLLECTION OF ASSETS TO BEGIN REPAYMENT OF THE RESTITUTION.   MR. SURICK WAS SENTENCED AND WILL SERVE HIS SENTENCE.   OF COURSE THE HONORABLE JUDGE HAS THE FINAL SAY BUT TRUTHFULLY MR. SURICK WILL NOT ESCAPE JAIL TIME.     HIS SENTENCE WILL STAND AND IN FACT IT COULD GET WORSE AS TH WORD IS THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CHARGES PENDING.   PLEASE RECALL THAT THE STATE CAN CHARGE MR. SURICK AS WELL AS STATE CHARGES REMAIN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

ON JUNE 3, 2023 MR SURICK WILL REPORT TO THE PRISION THAT WAS ASSIGNED BY THE DOJ.   ASK ELIZABETH HOLMES WHO HIRED THE BEST LEGAL TEAM IN THE WORLD TO REPRESENT HER----SHE HAS A 3 YEAR OLD AND A THREE MONTH OLD CHILD----ASK FOR HOME CONFINEMENT---FILED EVERY APPEAL POSSIBLE AND GUESS WHERE SHE IS GOING!!!!!!    PRISION FOR 11 YEARS!!!!   EVEN THOUGH SHE IS A MOM WITH SMALL CHILDREN AND HER CRIME WAS MONEY AND FRAUD---THE JUDGE RULED AGAINST HER THIS WEEK AND SHE WILL BE LEAVING HER CHILDREN FOR 11 YEARS.   

FOLKS, THIS IS THE REAL LAW.  THIS IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY DID NOT PROSECUTE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF PROSECUTION.   THEY PROSECUTE TO CONVICT CRIMINALS OF THEIR CRIMES AND HENCE THE CRIMINALS SERVE THEIR TIME AS PER THE JUDGE---NO EXCEPTIONS.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 18, 2023, 08:01:28 AM
 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1

Thank you very much COUNSELOR for heeding the call.  Will all the speculation and conspiracy theory continue here, I dunno, LOL....glad you didn't attach a bill, appreciation and gratitude for the "PRO BONO legal advisement", if you look at the racing threads in the last month, subtracting member wins from the losses we'd probably have to get financing to purchase bubble gum muchless pay your bill!   73cv.2

"ELIZABETH HOLMES", is frightening, people who knew her way back when say even her deep voice is contrived, all the moves she makes in life and business again when pieced together seem like she is always trying to outsmart ev1.  I wonder what's next in her "chess playing" type antics...from Federal Prison, she might be EXACTLY right where she wanted to be all along!  FRIGHTENING variety of the FAIRER SEX!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: The Exporter on May 18, 2023, 08:42:06 AM
I don't know anything about, Elizabeth Holmes making movies. Now, Jonny Holmes, that was a man who could make a flick.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: LUCPARK on May 18, 2023, 08:52:32 AM
I know Johnny Holmes

No Liz holmes :P
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 18, 2023, 02:25:47 PM
The only person who believes he will get home confinement is Lucpark, enough said
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: COUNSELOR on May 18, 2023, 05:51:04 PM
I DID LOOK ON PACER AND DID DISCOVER THAT THE JUDGE SIGNED AN ORDER EXTENDING IS REPORT DATE TO SEPTEMBER 3, 2023.   OBVIOUSLY, THE ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHY OR ANY REASON WHY BUT TRUTHFULLY ANY COMMENT HERE WOULD BE SPECULATION.   

THE LAST EXTENSION WAS DUE TO A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS--THIS EXTENSION DOES NOT SAY WHY THERE IS AN EXTENSION.   THEREFORE, THERE IS NO FACTS REGARDING THIS--ONLY SPECULATION.   

Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 18, 2023, 05:59:07 PM
I DID LOOK ON PACER AND DID DISCOVER THAT THE JUDGE SIGNED AN ORDER EXTENDING IS REPORT DATE TO SEPTEMBER 3, 2023.   OBVIOUSLY, THE ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHY OR ANY REASON WHY BUT TRUTHFULLY ANY COMMENT HERE WOULD BE SPECULATION.   

THE LAST EXTENSION WAS DUE TO A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS--THIS EXTENSION DOES NOT SAY WHY THERE IS AN EXTENSION.   THEREFORE, THERE IS NO FACTS REGARDING THIS--ONLY SPECULATION.

That's right, the plot thickens....PIGLA ND, even myself and others, well let's just say diming - the odds have dropped a bit on the spec!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Harness racer on May 18, 2023, 08:30:43 PM
The only person who believes he will get home confinement is Lucpark, enough said

I hope he gets ass raped in jail and when he gets out he has to suck dick for gas money!  He is a worthless piece of shit!  It's his big mouth that got this whole thing started.  Never knew when to shut up!
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: PIGLAND on May 18, 2023, 08:38:30 PM
i have seen what hapens to rats in jail
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 18, 2023, 09:32:44 PM
i have seen what hapens to rats in jail




Personal experience?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Pacingqueen on May 18, 2023, 09:42:08 PM
You are a clown! You said yesterday he WILL report June 3. LOL.




quote author=COUNSELOR link=topic=74066.msg1107442#msg1107442 date=1684446664]
I DID LOOK ON PACER AND DID DISCOVER THAT THE JUDGE SIGNED AN ORDER EXTENDING IS REPORT DATE TO SEPTEMBER 3, 2023.   OBVIOUSLY, THE ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHY OR ANY REASON WHY BUT TRUTHFULLY ANY COMMENT HERE WOULD BE SPECULATION.   

THE LAST EXTENSION WAS DUE TO A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS--THIS EXTENSION DOES NOT SAY WHY THERE IS AN EXTENSION.   THEREFORE, THERE IS NO FACTS REGARDING THIS--ONLY SPECULATION.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Pacingqueen on May 18, 2023, 09:56:04 PM
i have seen what hapens to rats in jail

Will never happen. He has more money hidden than you could count.  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: WillieGoldberg on May 18, 2023, 11:15:00 PM

I don't see Nick doing hard time.  Too many questions.  As he said in court "I lost my way."
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: COUNSELOR on May 19, 2023, 12:47:55 AM
I DO NOT KNOW THIS FELLA NOR HAVE ANY FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE REGARDING HIS WEALTH.  I HAVE READ THE CASE AND UNDERSTAND THE CASE.  IT IS MY OPINION THAT MR. SURICK WILL GO TO  FEDERAL CAMP ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.   THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEUY OR HIS NET WORTH----ASK THE THERANOS FOLKS HOW THEIR BILLIONS HELPED THEM---IT DID NOT.   

I HAVE NO TRUTHFUL INFORMATION ON WHY THIS WAS EXTENDED SO THEREFORE, I WILL NOT SPECUALTE ON THIS FELLAS FUTURE.   IF I KNEW THIS FELLA---AND I DO NOT----AND I WAS A HORSE TRAINER THAT THIS FELLA HAS INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PED USAGE ---I WOULD BE NERVOUS!   THE FEDERAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS WITH THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE ALWAYS BECOMES AN INFORMANT IN EVERY CASE WHICH LEADS TO MORE INDICTMENTS AND CRIMINAL CHARGES.  DEPENDING ON THE INFORMATION AND ITS USAGE TO OBTAIN CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS---TH INFORMANT MAY RECIEVE CREDIT ON HIS CRIME.  THIS IS GENERALLY MONTHS OFF A PRISON SENTENCE ---NOT YEARS OR EXONERATION.   JUST A CREDIT OF X MONTHS.

IF I WAS A GAMBLING MAN AND I AM NOT---I WOULD GAMBLE THAT MORE INDICTMENTS ARE COMING DUE TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 19, 2023, 12:56:56 AM
I DO NOT KNOW THIS FELLA NOR HAVE ANY FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE REGARDING HIS WEALTH.  I HAVE READ THE CASE AND UNDERSTAND THE CASE.  IT IS MY OPINION THAT MR. SURICK WILL GO TO  FEDERAL CAMP ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.   THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEUY OR HIS NET WORTH----ASK THE THERANOS FOLKS HOW THEIR BILLIONS HELPED THEM---IT DID NOT.   

I HAVE NO TRUTHFUL INFORMATION ON WHY THIS WAS EXTENDED SO THEREFORE, I WILL NOT SPECUALTE ON THIS FELLAS FUTURE.   IF I KNEW THIS FELLA---AND I DO NOT----AND I WAS A HORSE TRAINER THAT THIS FELLA HAS INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PED USAGE ---I WOULD BE NERVOUS!   THE FEDERAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS WITH THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE ALWAYS BECOMES AN INFORMANT IN EVERY CASE WHICH LEADS TO MORE INDICTMENTS AND CRIMINAL CHARGES.  DEPENDING ON THE INFORMATION AND ITS USAGE TO OBTAIN CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS---TH INFORMANT MAY RECIEVE CREDIT ON HIS CRIME.  THIS IS GENERALLY MONTHS OFF A PRISON SENTENCE ---NOT YEARS OR EXONERATION.   JUST A CREDIT OF X MONTHS.

IF I WAS A GAMBLING MAN AND I AM NOT---I WOULD GAMBLE THAT MORE INDICTMENTS ARE COMING DUE TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

Not too much in the way of clues for everyone, even some with possible insider dope herein, but it's been interesting fodder for the ploppers to wonder.  As an attorney, being cautious and logical, however conservative is spot on for you, makes sense and it is very respectable.  tmbz1

Once again, please remain pro-bono lol, if anyone is winning here their cheers have been done quietly.  That will change!  Thanks COUNSELOR and Horseplop BRO!!!  VGL if you're speculating on races!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Calhoun on May 19, 2023, 08:40:43 AM
COUNSELOR is a nit wit.

Lost every case.

Twice.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 19, 2023, 09:48:23 AM
COUNSELOR is a nit wit.

Lost every case.

Twice.

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Bro, the Caps is like kryptonite, it's killing me, I'm sure others too LOL.  No one in history learned to read in caps, shit, I speed read can you imagine the pain?!   ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 19, 2023, 10:43:07 AM
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Bro, the Caps is like kryptonite, it's killing me, I'm sure others too LOL.  No one in history learned to read in caps, shit, I speed read can you imagine the pain?!   ;D

No one said being a Horseplopper was easy, hang in there Senator

Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Tootoofast on May 20, 2023, 08:35:16 PM
How many songs did Nicky Sandals have to sing for this
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Casualfan1 on May 21, 2023, 12:14:19 AM
He will ultimately serve his time but I agree with the counselor if I had any association with this POS I’d be real concerned.  Anyone that knows him, 99% don’t like him but all know this garbage can would rat his own mom out if it would benefit him. He was always the guy who ran his mouth so this is what you get for even talking to him. And how Lucpark can defend him when he is literally spewing about Luc’s trainer Erv and his brother Andy.  They aren’t the only ones he’s ratting out and with this loser he will even make s**t up to try and get himself clear.
But one thing is for sure these agents are great at reading people and they like most are seeing what a chicken s**t dirtbag they are dealing with. 
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Harness racer on May 21, 2023, 01:48:24 AM
Biggest pussy around!  I hope Nicky gets what he deserves.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on May 21, 2023, 06:20:16 AM
   RAT
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on May 21, 2023, 04:29:14 PM
I DID LOOK ON PACER AND DID DISCOVER THAT THE JUDGE SIGNED AN ORDER EXTENDING IS REPORT DATE TO SEPTEMBER 3, 2023.   OBVIOUSLY, THE ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHY OR ANY REASON WHY BUT TRUTHFULLY ANY COMMENT HERE WOULD BE SPECULATION.   

THE LAST EXTENSION WAS DUE TO A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS--THIS EXTENSION DOES NOT SAY WHY THERE IS AN EXTENSION.   THEREFORE, THERE IS NO FACTS REGARDING THIS--ONLY SPECULATION.
ITS AMAZING MR COUNSELOR THAT SENATOR BLOW HARD DIDNT GET ON YOU ABOUT ALL CAPS OR GO AND WHINE TO ADMIN ABOUT YOU.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Hambletonian46 on May 21, 2023, 04:34:51 PM
I know if I was going to egage in criminal acitvity such as this, I would want to ensure that all of my co-conspirators had at least as much to lose as me. What kills me about this is the extreme lack of judgement displayed by some of the major players here,  working with folks who literally had not much of anything to risk (besides there freedom---which makes them prime candidates to flip when it all goes to shit).

If you are going to be criming, best to do it well...
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 21, 2023, 04:36:24 PM
ITS AMAZING MR COUNSELOR THAT SENATOR BLOW HARD DIDNT GET ON YOU ABOUT ALL CAPS OR GO AND WHINE TO ADMIN ABOUT YOU.

I did in post #58 in this thread! tmbz1

For someone who brags about IGNORING me, ya don't according to your posts.  try to have a nice day and GL L&O, we'll, I'll work around the CAPS!  ;D
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Mailbox Money on May 21, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Can't believe that the feds would listen to him snitch any more after stating that his previous info was garbage! Somebody must have listened to the wire taps with fresh ears. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 21, 2023, 06:45:19 PM
Can't believe that the feds would listen to him snitch any more after stating that his previous info was garbage! Somebody must have listened to the wire taps with fresh ears. Just a thought.

The reason why the feds are always willing to listen....ask Martha Stewart....Time + More Time!   ;D

"Under 18 U.S.C. § 1001, it's a felony crime to: make a “false statement” to an agent of the federal government related to a federal matter."
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: DownTheLan3 on September 09, 2023, 05:41:54 PM
September 5th has come and gone ….. what’s the verdict
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Generation XYZ on September 09, 2023, 05:53:26 PM
If he's only getting house arrest then he's still talking. Stay tuned for more action live from Miller stables...
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: COUNSELOR on September 10, 2023, 01:12:29 AM
EFFECTIVE, AUGUST 16, 2023 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SEALED AND FILED 4 DOCUMENTS WITH THE COURT.   THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY HAS FILED AND SEALED 3 DOCUMENTS.  THE PROSECUTOR AND DEFENSE ATTORNEY AGREED JOINTLY TO WITHDRAW THE APPEAL.   IT WAS WITHDRAWN.  THEREFORE, ONE WOULD SPECULATE THAT THERE IS MORE TO COME AS THERE IS NO OTHER REASON TO DELAY REPORTING ON THE 5TH OF SEPTEMBER  IN FACT THE REPORT DATE WAS DELAYED 3 TIMES AND AGREED TO BY THE FEDERAL PROSEUTOR.  THAT IS UNHEARD OF IN THE REAL WORLD.

NOT SURE WHO HE WORKED FOR OR WAS ASSOCIATED WITH BUT I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS AND VERY CONCERNED AS IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT THE COOPERATION HAS CONTINUED AND OTHER PARTIES HAVE BEEN DISEMINATED IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE A RULE 5 REDUCTION OF SENTENCE DUE TO A MERITORIOUS RELEASE OF INFORMATION TO THE GOVERNMENT IN A NEW CASE OR ANOTHER EXISTING CASE.   SENTENCING IS DELAYED IN ORDER FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DETERMINE HOW USEFUL THE INFORMATION WAS IN OBTAINING THE INDICTMENT AND CONVICTION IF THERE IS ONE TO BE HAD.

ADDITIONALLY, I DO AGREE WITH OTHERS PRIOR STATEMENTS THAT ONCE AND INFORMANT LIES THE PROSECUTOR IS HARD PRESSED TO USE THE SAME INFORMANT AGAIN UNLESS HARD EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED .

IN THE END THE FEDERAL JUDGE WILL MAKE THE PROPER END DECISION.   USUALLY, FEDERAL JUDGES ARE EXTREMELY QUALIFIED TO DO SO AND GENERALLY MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AS THEY HAVE SEEN AND HEARD IT ALL.   

THERE ARE RUMORS OF ANOTHER INVESTIGATION BUT AGAIN I DO NOT HAVE ANY FACTS REGARDING THIS---ONLY RUMORS ALTHOUGH THE SOURCE IS GENERALLY KNOWLEDGIBLE.

TIME WILL TELL.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: kantseeback on September 10, 2023, 07:32:58 AM
hes got a new girlfriand

and bought  big ass condo in manhattan

i thi nk hes ready to settle down
Are you sure you don't have that mixed up?
I heard he has a big ass girlfriend and bought a new condo.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: The Exporter on September 10, 2023, 08:35:46 AM
There was a guest on Freddie Hudson's podcast last week, suggesting state action's would begin this week or so.
 Maybe the state prostitutes are using and protecting little Nicky Shower Shoes.
 If this kid is not incarcerated soon, it will be a major travesty in justice.   
 BTW Oaks now walking the streets of Philadelphia and will max out before Christmas.
 
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Generation XYZ on September 10, 2023, 09:10:43 AM
There was a guest on Freddie Hudson's podcast last week, suggesting state action's would begin this week or so.
 Maybe the state prostitutes are using and protecting little Nicky Shower Shoes.
 If this kid is not incarcerated soon, it will be a major travesty in justice.   
 BTW Oaks now walking the streets of Philadelphia and will max out before Christmas.

I heard that Oakes is at a halfway house in Philly. Wonder if he's stipend by the Crawfords?
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: COUNSELOR on September 13, 2023, 12:18:30 AM
THIS FELLA HAS IN FACT BEEN SENTENCED BY A FEDERAL JUDGE.   THE SENTENCE CANNOT BE VACATED OR CHANGED UNLESS APPEALED TO A HIGHER COURT AND THE APPEAL HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN--THE JUDGE IS IN FACT THE DIRECTOR OF THIS CASE---NO ONE ELSE.   THE DEFENDANT MAY GET A RULE 5 FOR ADDITIONALLY INFORMATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE JUDGE AND ONLY THE JUDGE COULD SHORTEN THE SENTENCE FOR MERITORIOUS EFFORTS IN THIS CASE OR ANOTHER CRIMINAL CASE THAT AIDED PROSECUTORS IN CONVICTING ADDITIONAL FOLKS OR NEW MATTER.

NEITHER THE PROSECUTOR NOR THE DENSE ATTORNEY CAN CHANGE ANY PART OF THIS SENTENCE MEANING TIME OR TYPE OF SENTENCE UNLESS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT AND THE JUDGE REVIEWING AND DECIDING WHAT TIME CAN BE GIVEN OFF SENTENCE (RULE 5) OR THE TYPE OF CONFINEMENT----THE CONFINEMENT NOW WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE A FEDERAL PRISION NEAR THE DEFENDANTS HOME IN NEW JERSEY ----I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY CHANGES BY ANY COURT OR JUDGE AT THIS TIME ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE FILDED DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SEALED.

I AM SURE THAT ALL PARTIES KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON INCLUDING THE JUDGE.   TIME WILL TELL.

I DO KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL ORDER SIGNED BY THE JUDGE IS STILL VALID AND BINDING---AS OF TODAY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE JUDGE HAS AGREED TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Surick touting just house arrest
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 13, 2023, 06:04:23 AM
NEITHER THE PROSECUTOR NOR THE DENSE ATTORNEY






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