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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on August 31, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
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http://www.harnessracing.com/news_detailed.php?id=38849
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Now I’ve seen it all
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Now I’ve seen it all
HT DOES IT AGAIN
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HE TOLD ME YESTERDAY BIG NEWS GONNA HIT TODAY..
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Congrats to the owners! I'm sure it was tough to sell the once in a lifetime horse but nice payday to try again.
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Congrats to the owners! I'm sure it was tough to sell the once in a lifetime horse but nice payday to try again.
I DONT THINK THAT ENGINE HAS BEEN TURNED ON YET
THATS A VERY NICE ANIMAL,, tmbz1
CONGRATS TO OWNERS AND SELLERS BEST OF LUCK TO BOTH
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there is still plenty in the tank
The colt is legit
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I thought Takter was retiring? Is he going to use this year Lexington sale and say he was only 99.9% retiring and decided not to play a different sport?
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I thought Takter was retiring? Is he going to use this year Lexington sale and say he was only 99.9% retiring and decided not to play a different sport?
Per engblom
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I'm guessing this is more a Diamond Creek move who had the most shares in Swan. Sure there are others on board. DC becoming a big player and may need to replace Southwind Frank who has breeding issues.
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Unbelievable.
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I THINK THIS IS THE HORSE CRAWFORD FARM'S OFFERED 500,000 FOR AFTER HIS SECOND START.
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this is the dream of buying yearlings
to get one this good and either race or cash huge
tough call to sell
but take the money and run
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it just shows how much money is sloshing around our sport looking to win
$17,000 yearling with 4 partners, not appeared to be heavily staked
those owners hit the jackpot
new owners can stake and supplement to lots of races
this is why the Lexington and Harrisburg sales will be super strong this year
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this is the dream of buying yearlings
to get one this good and either race or cash huge
tough call to sell
but take the money and run
not a tough call at all
an indy bred
worst comes to worst he makes it as a ok stallion may have a valuation of 4x what they got
getting 3/1 on your selling price isnt a big chance
not sure who the owners are but assuming this was life changing money
as it is for most
its an easy sell
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Talk about over paying wow
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Fuck yes it's a easy sell. You want longevity in the game it's playing with somebody else's money. You entrench yourself with good thoughts when u own a good one that what the horse could possible win and the money potential behind it. But really does it ever play out. On a % base at least. You definitely see horses over time run the table as they become a superstar. That's the risk. So I been told over time "it's never bad thing to take the silver then hoping you win the gold"(I've wish in hindsight I'd listen more to that advice). Hell in this situation with over 200k banked and another 1.0m plus they not only hit gold but a little platinum in the deal. Good for them. I'm from IL and those aren't household names that I recognize at yearly sales. Life changing or not that's a homerun with guys on base. A Grand slam is getting a Muscle Hill, Donanto Hanover, Cantab Hall, a Andover Hall. It just doesn't happen everyday. Will Swandre the Giant be that? At this point those 4 previous owners don't care. They will be focusing on trying to secure future new chances. One piece of advice...this is a brutal business where it doesn't take long to lose that money if you jump into the deep end of the pool.
On a different note what the hell has made that track over the last two years one of the fastest NA racing ovals. It wasn't a place where you needed a 50-51 pacer at 2 to win the sire stake races. And trotters in 54. 2 yr olds. Then trotters in 52 in change at 3. I'm not the only one wondering. I don't get the theory that each track needs to be faster then the next.
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indy sires series are very hard \\probbaly the hardest in the country
u better come there with a fast pacer or trotter or u got nothing
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anyone who disagrees come try your luck
its fckin really hard,,
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AA...sloshing around? It's the same money that just churned around because the current situation of the economy and stock markets are doing very well. Your comment is meaningless if it was currently Sept 2008 into Jan 2009. There would be NO SLOSHING! It would be selling for pennies on the dollar. It's like any other business doing well in good times. Taking that risk because funds are currently available. Yes the yearling sales should be near the past two years on average or could be more. AA the current cycle says push along and no head winds until you get into late 2019 and into 2020. But all cycles end sometime and that will start to worry industries that rely on other industries for funding support.
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Looks like the reported names are Diamond Creek which I kind of figured. Adam has put together a pretty good operation. Has also been buying up some thoroughbred mares and spending some money on yearlings in that game. Then Jerry Silva and HT coming along for the ride.
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anyone who disagrees come try your luck
its fckin really hard,,
That’s what the women say about me
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There ain't no fucking way $1 MIL or more changed hands for this horse.
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These are the seven figures. $99,999.99.
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There ain't no fucking way $1 MIL or more changed hands for this horse.
Confirmed, it did.
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i agree with the comments
life changing money i am sure
the only reason i say tough to sell was not financially but for the ride
if you already have cash than having a top trotter would be a fun ride
but if you are new to the business , take the cash ,hide some away and buy a few more for fun
my understanding is the stable.ca trained him down and sent him to bates for the sires stakes
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Fuck yes it's a easy sell. You want longevity in the game it's playing with somebody else's money. You entrench yourself with good thoughts when u own a good one that what the horse could possible win and the money potential behind it. But really does it ever play out. On a % base at least. You definitely see horses over time run the table as they become a superstar. That's the risk. So I been told over time "it's never bad thing to take the silver then hoping you win the gold"(I've wish in hindsight I'd listen more to that advice). Hell in this situation with over 200k banked and another 1.0m plus they not only hit gold but a little platinum in the deal. Good for them. I'm from IL and those aren't household names that I recognize at yearly sales. Life changing or not that's a homerun with guys on base. A Grand slam is getting a Muscle Hill, Donanto Hanover, Cantab Hall, a Andover Hall. It just doesn't happen everyday. Will Swandre the Giant be that? At this point those 4 previous owners don't care. They will be focusing on trying to secure future new chances. One piece of advice...this is a brutal business where it doesn't take long to lose that money if you jump into the deep end of the pool.
On a different note what the hell has made that track over the last two years one of the fastest NA racing ovals. It wasn't a place where you needed a 50-51 pacer at 2 to win the sire stake races. And trotters in 54. 2 yr olds. Then trotters in 52 in change at 3. I'm not the only one wondering. I don't get the theory that each track needs to be faster then the next.
congrats to the sellers, they turned a $17,000 yearling into a huge winner!
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AA...sloshing around? It's the same money that just churned around because the current situation of the economy and stock markets are doing very well. Your comment is meaningless if it was currently Sept 2008 into Jan 2009. There would be NO SLOSHING! It would be selling for pennies on the dollar. It's like any other business doing well in good times. Taking that risk because funds are currently available. Yes the yearling sales should be near the past two years on average or could be more. AA the current cycle says push along and no head winds until you get into late 2019 and into 2020. But all cycles end sometime and that will start to worry industries that rely on other industries for funding support.
Diamond Creek did the same type of transaction with Downbytheseaside
if times (economy, stock market) weren't good, these types of purchases wouldn't be occuring
I believe the sales will be strong
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Yes you are Brown Jug that the Stable did train that one down and it went to Bates. But I'm not sure why it didn't race in the Stable name like they all do. Maybe the 4 owners bought everyone out at some point? I know that has happened to a couple horses. But again not sure.
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Wasn't very impressive tonight.
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Wasn't very impressive tonight.
They will have the vet look at him. I am sure he was "sick". White blood cell count of 10.3 LOL
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Can someone elaborate on this part:
A son of Swan For All, Swandre The Giant was a $17,000 yearling purchase at the 2017 Hoosier Classic Sale by TheStable.ca’s Anthony MacDonald who broke the trotter at his base at the Timoko Training Center in Ontario. Swandre The Giant is out of the Valley Victor mare Adagio, who blossomed from a zero-for-10 freshman season in 2010 into a $250,000 Kentucky Sires Stakes champion in 2011, finishing her career with $216,330 in earnings and a mark of 1:57.
So did TheStable subsequently sell this one? 73cv.2
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Wasn't very impressive tonight.
Missed the velvet hands of Brandon Bates. Gingras is so overrated
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Missed the velvet hands of Brandon Bates. Gingras is so overrated
Yes sir, you or I could win on every tactor,burke horses he gets,,
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Can someone elaborate on this part:
So did TheStable subsequently sell this one? 73cv.2
no
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Missed the velvet hands of Brandon Bates. Gingras is so overrated
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Congrats to the owners! I'm sure it was tough to sell the once in a lifetime horse but nice payday to try again.
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7 figures never broke down in the bank....They made a huge profit no matter what this colt goes on to make....
Reminds me of John Wagner and a Muscles colt. He bought him in KY for $4500 sold for about $300k and the horse went to make $2.2 milly. John reminded me of all the ones he sold for 6 figures that never made much of anything....take the money and run like hell
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Missed the velvet hands of Brandon Bates. Gingras is so overrated
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Takter will have the screws tight this week,,,IMO
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TAKTER NEVER BEEN KNOWN FOR TAKING OVER HORSES DEVELOPED BY OTHERS,,,
THIS AND THE CLASSLESS PACER FROM NEW ZELAND BAFFLE ME,,,
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Takter will have the screws tight this week,,,IMO
Delroy wrong as usual
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Looked like the screws were a little too tight
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Melander had this one qualifying fast in June and had some problems after a few starts keeping him flat. His last two starts have him saying this horse is what I thought he was. Looks like a good one.
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So 7 figures is a over a million large correct
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Yannick drives every horse like a rental car, not much strategy with him. And the only guys happy about Swandre is previous owners and crooked ass Ernie. I hope Ernie at least supplied the lube.
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Takter will have the screws tight this week,,,IMO
What screws!!
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tmbz1
Yes sir, you or I could win on every tactor,burke horses he gets,,
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Perhaps a GoFundMe page for Messrs Silva and Taylor?
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Perhaps a GoFundMe page for Messrs Silva and Taylor?
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Who is training him this season. Nancy? Or ????
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Heard it was Burke
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Back to bates
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Ron Burke. 100%
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Seems like a very nice purchase
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Seems like a very nice purchase
Yes a very nice purchase for the people who bought him as a yearling not for the people who paid a million for him
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Yes a very nice purchase for the people who bought him as a yearling not for the people who paid a million for him
That's exactly what I meant,,,,,,and don't forget Ernie he did very good
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That's exactly what I meant,,,,,,and don't forget Ernie he did very good
this fckin ernie mite be the smartest of them all
fcks people better than guys i know ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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this fckin ernie mite be the smartest of them all
fcks people better than guys i know ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Been doing it for decades,,,,,,and he’s dead broke
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this fckin ernie mite be the smartest of them all
fcks people better than guys i know ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Agree Luc
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Burke will have him ready
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At least give him one start. You guys said that about Tactical Landing. I love how that turned out- and Ernie did that one too
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THIS IS A TRAINER DOWNGRADE,,,,IMO
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any update on this horse in the burke barn. 11.wp
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any update on this horse in the burke barn. 11.wp
racing thurs sires
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any update on this horse in the burke barn. 11.wp
I don’t think it’s a training upgrade to Burke from takter