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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: John Esposito on March 21, 2019, 04:49:20 PM
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http://www.thebigm.com/uploadedFiles/Handicapping/Past_Performances/Can_Am.pdf
11.wp
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took a look at this from toronto this aft..where we're calling it canam.
20cent minimum separate pool up here.
Overview: You deserve the money if you can hit this win 4 'cheaply'
4 -10 horse races chock full of never weres and underachievers... just like any GREAT 4 RACE HANDICAPPING (w/sprinkle of luck)TEST should be.
Up here..looking for any non gingras horse in meadowlands 2 races to get the $$ price...hes got fave in first big m race leg #10 WellSaid Maria for Gingras/Burke. he won last week's event at this level wire to wire...beating him wont be easy BUT cant key him..wont key him
Good luck over next 24 hrs looking it over.
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Very tough sequence
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Not a big fan of the Greek but I Wish You Well was motoring home last week. 3rd start off the shelf. Definitely putting on a lot of tickets.
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I'll sit back and watch carryover upon carryover and when the pot gets up there watch as the drivers set it up and take it all. There's enough back and forth between the two tracks to make it a reality.
huh? It's a jackpot bet?
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No carryover nor jackpot either side of border ..this goes every friday night til further notice. Win 4 structure- but two big harness tracks.
20cent bet..both sides..2 SEPARATE POOLS..2 SEPARATE PAYOFFS..one in u.s. one in.canada.
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No carryover nor jackpot either side of border ..this goes every friday night til further notice. Win 4 structure- but two big harness tracks.
20cent bet..both sides..2 SEPARATE POOLS..2 SEPARATE PAYOFFS..one in u.s. one in.canada.
thank you for explaining
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No carryover nor jackpot either side of border ..this goes every friday night til further notice. Win 4 structure- but two big harness tracks.
20cent bet..both sides..2 SEPARATE POOLS..2 SEPARATE PAYOFFS..one in u.s. one in.canada.
Why the heck wouldn't the pools be comingled?
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ive been asking that from the beginning
Double the pool size = bigger payoff pool...no?
Got to be crossborder govt reg on this...always say that when i dont have answer.
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Why the heck wouldn't the pools be comingled?
The 2 jews couldn't agree on who would get the larger share of the profits. Basically, they couldn't trust the other to provide correct figures
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Up here..looking for any non gingras horse in meadowlands 2 races to get the $$ price...hes got fave in first big m race leg #10 WellSaid Maria for Gingras/Burke. he won last week's event at this level wire to wire...beating him wont be easy BUT cant key him..wont key him
The breaking issues are a concern. Watched the replays for the 4 starts this year. The two breaking races there didn't seem to be any specific incidents to blame the breaks on. The last two races were fairly impressive. Last out he took her off the gate and then quarter moved with authority. Not sure what kind of trip out of the 10 hole we'll see. If he has to blast I don't think that would be conducive to this mare. Off track might also be beneficial. Interesting to note that Burke and WB privately purchased this one themselves. I'm guessing it has to do with the dam being half to one he trained in the past TJ Blast (and sold for 100k).
That being said, I think you have to play You Should Be Here if you have any concerns about the Well Said Maria. Miller got looped by WSM and YG last out. You get the less aggressive Dunn but this one still should be leaving. If WSM breaks or runs into trouble I think You Should Be Here should be there late.
Curious about #2 Sunday Afternoon in Race 11 Mohawk Leg 3. 2nd time lasix, and transferred to Budd's barn presumably since Menary got suspended. No way we'll get anywhere near 8/1 ml but in pick 4s I'm less concerned about win price. This is a pretty tough field and Henry opted off for the 6 (for connections he always drives for) but McNair is certainly not a downgrade.
Last Leg Hockey Hanover and a few others do look tough in there. I will say that
Landonfitz is a play on your C tickets. Raced pretty bravely trying to run down a Piercewave Hanover who took an absolutely huge win bet plunge at last flash--probably knowing he was a good thing. I don't usually like horses that show a dislike for certain conditions and Londonfitz is 0 for 25 on off tracks. That said, with all the other good looking choices in here--most all with question marks themselves. Landonfitz worth a spot on longshot tickets and used underneath in exotics.
Good luck to all! Very curious to see how this bet turns out.
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I used shewearsthepants last week...gonna give a good look tonight...Good Luck All
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If it's separate pools can you play both sides from Canada and meadowlands also if same tickets played for example but separated pools get a good payoff one track but bad payoff at the other because someone crushes that sequence.and shorts the payoff if both still 20cents both tracks show wager on both programs I printed but had to print separate pic 4 to get the order right I think that could be more value unless all favors win then your sunk anyway
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I forgot to say through my online account at betamerica
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She wear thepants was loaded last week running over horses time off and trainer change looks to be positive
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Online shows only one way to play canam unless it's added later today so looks as though we can only play single American pool only
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Everyday folks aren't playing both sides...though usual syndicates or horsemen connections will be.
I will ask here though...we'll probably get the most 'honest'
Win 4 payoff you're ever gonna get in your home jurisdiction because just 'too big of a hassle' to worry about playing it somewhete else as well.
Again, no keys here tonight....and that makes it all the more fun
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will pay less than $100 for 20 cents,terrible wager
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try request for parole in first leg looked extremly sharp last out could be on the upswing
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Mohawk Hensley's Request For Parole rolled easy
last week WITH equipment change
And of course everyone knows biggest problem with harness racing past performance program...outside of lasix L indicator, past performances never show week to week equipment changes in each line WHICH IS SO WRONG.
anyway, he does have as good a chance of any horse in that race.
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from XPressbet.com
Fans should note that the Can-Am Pick-4 pool will be separate at both tracks, though the Meadowlands and Woodbine-Mohawk Park will share equally in the revenues.
what could possibly go wrong?
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Then again, it's something new and brings back great memories of the same wager with Balmoral and Cal-Expo.
The Bal-Cal P4 was one of the high points of the sport.
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Well I did enjoy those paydays cause there could be some stiffs as fav in there magees esp made some nice payoffs .good way to start Burkes horse Maria lose in open leg .
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Oh pardon me second race not first I miss spoke
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Checking through my track's ADW and it doesn't even look like this bet is being taken. Gonna call and found out for sure.
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Just checked not on either of mine.
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IT IS NOT UNDER EITHER INDIVIDUAL TRACKS MENU. IT HAS ITS OWN SEPERATE LISTING.
MOHAWK ONLINE PROGRAM DOESNT INCLUDE BIG M RACES OF THE PICK 4
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IT IS NOT UNDER EITHER INDIVIDUAL TRACKS MENU. IT HAS ITS OWN SEPERATE LISTING.
MOHAWK ONLINE PROGRAM DOESNT INCLUDE BIG M RACES OF THE PICK 4
thank you
spent 10 min looking for it
instead of just checking plop ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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IT IS NOT UNDER EITHER INDIVIDUAL TRACKS MENU. IT HAS ITS OWN SEPERATE LISTING.
MOHAWK ONLINE PROGRAM DOESNT INCLUDE BIG M RACES OF THE PICK 4
yeah my track's ADW isn't carrying it (called the tote manager to confirm) so I'm gonna bet it through TVG.
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I'm just playing meds 10th dd 249/127 sup 24/249/2349/2347910 11th sup 27/127/1279/1247910
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F it slapped a canam together 19/24/19/127
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Almost 30 k in the pool already in Canada, should get close to 75k i would think... I spent $30 as i am not a regular follower of meadowlands
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they are worried about drag time ngc3 and they are just coming out to the track with 1 minute to post ngc3 The wager is a total failure,the pools are horrible,good night
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57,400 in canada cdn dollars canam
Request for Parole in opener one of contenders for sure..change of equip last week NEVER NOTED IN HARNESS PAST PERFORMANCE LINES!!!! was plenty enough.
And while we were watching that first event i see meadowlands scratched number 3 late...hmmmm
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i got knocked out 91zxa.1 91zxa.1 91zxa.1
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i got knocked out 91zxa.1 91zxa.1 91zxa.1
Nice Call!!!! tmbz1
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Nice Call!!!! tmbz1
thanks ;D ;D ;D
lol
i dont follow woodbine in the winter
maybe try it again next week
see what it pays here
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what it pay?
they dodnt even announce it lol
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57,400 in canada cdn dollars canam
Request for Parole in opener one of contenders for sure..change of equip last week NEVER NOTED IN HARNESS PAST PERFORMANCE LINES!!!! was plenty enough.
And while we were watching that first event i see meadowlands scratched number 3 late...hmmmm
Nice Call!!
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Pool Name Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
PICK 4 5/3,6,7/2/5 5,965.10 42,902
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20 minutes later..at 1130p et.
paid
596 cdn 20cents
My god that sounds generous
5-2 6-5 12-1 7-2
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Yes but two of those were 10-1= 5/2off odds and 4-1 =8.00$ and 24$horse shoulda been over 1000 us pool was low
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57k in canada 40 in the us if pool was together woulda been higher payoff
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All that talk of separate pools
Im not sure there was
I saw one payoff in canada and us it was 592 for 20 cents
Was info not correct from organizers?
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IF THEY ARE USING A DIFFERENT BETTING PLATFORUM THAN THE REGULAR ONE HOW ARE THEY WORKING THE EXCHANGE RATES?