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Title: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Equus Caballus on May 22, 2019, 09:27:12 AM
Meadowlands Racetrack STATEMENT ON LASIX:

"In light of the recent circumstances in Thoroughbred racing surrounding the welfare of the horses, all of horse racing has come under increased scrutiny. While the rate of catastrophic breakdowns in Standardbred racing is but a fraction of what it is with the Thoroughbred, the public does not make that distinction.

The health and welfare of our horses has been a top priority throughout President and CEO Jeff Gural's tenure at The Meadowlands and a great deal of time and money has been spent in efforts to eradicate Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) from Standardbred racing.

Over the past few months in response to questions on the use of the diuretic Lasix as a PED, a consortium of Thoroughbred tracks is taking steps to reduce or eliminate the use of Lasix on race day.

It is the intention of The Meadowlands as the flagship track of the standardbred industry to join that movement and proceed in such a way as to insure the best interests of our equine athletes.

A proposal to address the use of Lasix as a race day medication at The Meadowlands has been submitted to the New Jersey Racing Commission (NJRC).
The submitted proposal states that beginning in 2020, no 2-year-old Standardbred will be permitted to use Lasix when racing at The Meadowlands. Further, in 2021 the track's signature stakes race, The Meadowlands Pace, will become Lasix free. It is noteworthy that the marquee stake in all of Standardbred racing, the Hambletonian at The Meadowlands, has not permitted the use of Lasix throughout its 93 year history.

In discussion with several Standardbred trainers, the consensus was that 2-year-old horses should not race with Lasix and should instead be given time away from the track to recover if they are indeed diagnosed with Exercise Induced Pulmonary Hemorrhage (EIPH). Over the entire 2018 season at The Meadowlands, only seven 2-year-olds raced with Lasix .

At the end of the 2021 racing season we will review these changes, consider any revisions to the practice in Thoroughbred racing and adjust as necessary.

While we recognize the therapeutic benefits of Lasix, our concern is with the optics and feel it is important to show that we take the health and safety of our horses very seriously.  We believe this is the best approach while we observe how even stricter measures work for the thoroughbred industry."
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 22, 2019, 09:54:38 AM
Meadowlands Racetrack STATEMENT ON LASIX:

"In light of the recent circumstances in Thoroughbred racing surrounding the welfare of the horses, all of horse racing has come under increased scrutiny. While the rate of catastrophic breakdowns in Standardbred racing is but a fraction of what it is with the Thoroughbred, the public does not make that distinction.

The health and welfare of our horses has been a top priority throughout President and CEO Jeff Gural's tenure at The Meadowlands and a great deal of time and money has been spent in efforts to eradicate Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) from Standardbred racing.

Over the past few months in response to questions on the use of the diuretic Lasix as a PED, a consortium of Thoroughbred tracks is taking steps to reduce or eliminate the use of Lasix on race day.

It is the intention of The Meadowlands as the flagship track of the standardbred industry to join that movement and proceed in such a way as to insure the best interests of our equine athletes.

A proposal to address the use of Lasix as a race day medication at The Meadowlands has been submitted to the New Jersey Racing Commission (NJRC).
The submitted proposal states that beginning in 2020, no 2-year-old Standardbred will be permitted to use Lasix when racing at The Meadowlands. Further, in 2021 the track's signature stakes race, The Meadowlands Pace, will become Lasix free. It is noteworthy that the marquee stake in all of Standardbred racing, the Hambletonian at The Meadowlands, has not permitted the use of Lasix throughout its 93 year history.

In discussion with several Standardbred trainers, the consensus was that 2-year-old horses should not race with Lasix and should instead be given time away from the track to recover if they are indeed diagnosed with Exercise Induced Pulmonary Hemorrhage (EIPH). Over the entire 2018 season at The Meadowlands, only seven 2-year-olds raced with Lasix .

At the end of the 2021 racing season we will review these changes, consider any revisions to the practice in Thoroughbred racing and adjust as necessary.

While we recognize the therapeutic benefits of Lasix, our concern is with the optics and feel it is important to show that we take the health and safety of our horses very seriously.  We believe this is the best approach while we observe how even stricter measures work for the thoroughbred industry."

A couple of points about Jewffrey's latest farce:

1.   The Fuhrer speaks about his long program of trying to eradicate PEDs.  Well, how about giving us the data.  How many tests did Jackie Chan do and how many positives did they find?  How many horsemen did Dick(head) Cote bust in the 5+ years he's been on the job?  Why hasn't the Tablecloth Clad Heeeeb checked the vet records like they did to Pena?  Bottom line is the cocksucker talks a good game but the data doesnt back up a single thing he says.

2.   "Optics?"   Gimme a break.  The classless Hebrew has NEVER been concerned about optics.  When he banned all Mexicans, he wasn't worried about optics.  When he banned all Yonkers drivers, he wasn't worried about optics.  When he personally went after Brian Sears and then let him come back after the titty-twisting episode in FL, he wasn't worried about optics.  Anybody that dresses like a Duck Dynasty whino, isn't worried about optics.  More bullshit.

I don't care one way or the other about Lasix.  I can tell you that the public at large that DOES care about lasix in harness racing is less than 0.001%.  So the hook-nosed heeeeeeb is just grandstanding because he, too, is attention-starved, know-nothing prick.  Until next time, darlings......... ......HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 22, 2019, 10:11:02 AM
Right on , Buffy.  I think you are being generous about the percentage of people who care.  tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 22, 2019, 11:12:46 AM
The self centered bastard raced a horse last night at Yonkers.......... ................. WHY??????

AND.......to no great surprise.....THE HORSE RACED ON LASIX!!

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C'mon, folks.  We've known that Jewffrey is a two-faced cunt who is in it for only himself.  Casino, slots, Fan Stool Janitor Closet.  When one closed, he went after another and whined about his situation all along.   Let's stop acting surprised.  Until next time, laddies.........H EIL HITLER!!
   
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on May 22, 2019, 11:23:59 AM
Do i have this straight? No racing 2yos on lasix for the health and wellfare of horses but the bongiornos can contunue to freely dominate the overnight racing
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: NJ HORSEMAN on May 22, 2019, 11:55:29 AM
 YOU MORONS ARE JUST REALIZING THIS?

THERE ARE 3 FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN CALLING A HYMIE A HYMIE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND YOU ASS KISSERS STOOD IN LINE TO PUT LIPSTICK ON HIS DIPSTICK.

HUSH, HARNOBUFF, AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN FRONT AND CENTER SAYING THIS HEEB WASNT THE MAN FOR ANY JOB IN HARNESS RACING, BUT YOU ALL ATE UP HIS RHETORIC WITH A GLEAM IN YOUR EYE, HOPING THAT YOU WOULD BE THE ONE CHOSEN TO SUCK HIS DICK AND KISS HIS ASS

YOU ALL LOST YOUR RIGHTS FOR CRITICISM YEARS AGO
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 22, 2019, 01:20:11 PM
YOU MORONS ARE JUST REALIZING THIS?

THERE ARE 3 FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN CALLING A HYMIE A HYMIE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND YOU ASS KISSERS STOOD IN LINE TO PUT LIPSTICK ON HIS DIPSTICK.

HUSH, HARNOBUFF, AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN FRONT AND CENTER SAYING THIS HEEB WASNT THE MAN FOR ANY JOB IN HARNESS RACING, BUT YOU ALL ATE UP HIS RHETORIC WITH A GLEAM IN YOUR EYE, HOPING THAT YOU WOULD BE THE ONE CHOSEN TO SUCK HIS DICK AND KISS HIS ASS

YOU ALL LOST YOUR RIGHTS FOR CRITICISM YEARS AGO

yo, yo, Joyzzzeeeee,

Always great to hear from an original Freedom Fighter.  Hush and Off Ramp are in Afghanistan fighting the evil Hitler Youth such as Lice Man the Baby Cunt, Slim Shitty, Campbell Soup, Stunned Forever and The Extorter.  I hope they come back soon and resume posting on this worthless forum.  We smelled Jewffrey out the day he happened on the scene.  Thanks to you and others.  Keep it up.  Until next time, sweeties......... ......HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: LUCPARK on May 22, 2019, 01:30:59 PM
HONESTLY HEZ DOIN THIS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE HORSES tmbz1

HEZ A GOOD GUY tmbz1

GOOD HEBREW MAN WITH GOOD INTENTIONS  tmbz1

I AGREE WITH HIM ON THIS..

I DOTN SEE WHAT  HEZ DOIN ON THIS ITS HIZ TRACK,

OR DONT RACE THERE UNDER HIZ RULES
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Barnet Garnsdale on May 22, 2019, 01:56:29 PM
 MONKEE SEE MONKEY DO, GURAL WANNA BE, CLAY HORNER, SURELY WONT BE FAR BEHIND
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Zoooooming By! on May 22, 2019, 05:31:10 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but LASIX masks a lot of the shit these big wigs are using. Horses are put on LASIX even if it is not needed.

Lets see if races still go as fast without LASIX.

Lets see the percentages of the big boys once this takes affect.
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: samstar on May 22, 2019, 07:35:05 PM
I am racing 5 horses and only  one of them is on Lasix.  I've heard that it is used to mask drugs but I have never heard what drugs it masks.      My attitude about Lasix is simple.   How many times have you heard of people going to the doctor or to the emergency room, feeling weak and dizzy only to be told that they were just dehydrated?  We give our horses Lasix and no water before we ask them to perform at  maximum effort. In other words, we dehydrate them on purpose. I am not against Lasix and I would not advocate doing away with it, but I caution you all that it is possible that it is a mistake to use it when your horse isn't bleeding.
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Gural sux on May 22, 2019, 07:50:09 PM
If McDermott is your trainer you’ll need more than lasix!!!
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Joe 4 all on May 24, 2019, 06:47:17 AM
 ONCE AGAIN THE FEEBLE HEEB HAS NO CLUE.  BAND THIS, BAND THAT, BAND THIS GUY, BAND THAT GUY.  NOW THE BANDING OF LASIX IS JUST A KISS ASS MOVE TO CANDY UP TO HIS POLITICAL PETA POSSE .

YOUR OLD PAL UNCLE JOE, AND YONKER RACEWAY WILL BE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU, RIGHT AFTER ALAN SCHWANTZ,AND I GET BACK FROM OUR ALL EXPENSES PAID TRIP TO EYETALIA TO DRIVE AGAINST THOSE WOPS OVER THERE.

   BLESS YOU MY FLOCK OVER THIS MEMORIAL DAY AS WE REMEMBER FELLOW HORSEMEN WHO HAVE PASSED TO MAKE OUR MISSION BETTER TODAY

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SEE Y'ALL IN ROME
AND WHEN IN ROME
DO AS THE ROMANS DUE
DRINK WINE TO EXCESS
AND EAT SPAGHETTI O'S
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: bond on May 24, 2019, 09:03:32 AM
I agree with Joe and Buffy on this one--Gural just Grandstanding.
AGAIN he picks and chooses who will and who wont be able to do something.
Its just plain wrong.
IMHO--Lasix has been seriously abused-thats true--most horses bleed-but those that only bleed minimally are put on Lasix-with no proof it does anything for those.
It could EASILY be simplified--eg -you can ONLY be put on Lasix if the horse comes back from racing after bleeding from BOTH nostrils--THATS a bleeder.
Just put those on Lasix at least the public will understand that--instead of seeing nearly EVERY horse run on drugs-giving racing a bad name and allowing people like Gural to use it for Political purposes.. Exactly what they do in human sport--eg asthmatics can perform on puffers-with doctors script.

Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 24, 2019, 09:37:50 AM
The reason Lasix, not including its side effects should not be allowed is simple. There is no scientific proof that it works. In fact, ask 5 vets or go online and research why horses bleed and you will get 5 different theories ranging from high blood pressure, infection, airway obstruction, clotting issues etc. How can you use a drug when you aren't even sure what is causing the symptom which in this case is EIPH?
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Same with many medications. Usually guesswork.
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: bond on May 24, 2019, 09:38:38 AM
The reason Lasix, not including its side effects should not be allowed is simple. There is no scientific proof that it works. In fact, ask 5 vets or go online and research why horses bleed and you will get 5 different theories ranging from high blood pressure, infection, airway obstruction, clotting issues etc. How can you use a drug when you aren't even sure what is causing the symptom which in this case EIPH?

Thats not quite true Mike/ There have been well controlled studies done which has shown that Lasix works on severe bleeders. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28963734

It does this by reducing lung pressure,reducing pressure on weak blood vessels which can rupture under stress.

Where things went wrong-is that in the horse business-if anyone even THINKS someone has an edge and they too can get this edge-they will go get it.
End result--just about every TBRed and most Harness Horses race on drugs now.
Ban it--but allow the actual bleeders to race on it. Dont leave it up to Vets to put them on it--because they make $$$$ out of it.
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 24, 2019, 10:05:08 AM
The reason Lasix, not including its side effects should not be allowed is simple. There is no scientific proof that it works. In fact, ask 5 vets or go online and research why horses bleed and you will get 5 different theories ranging from high blood pressure, infection, airway obstruction, clotting issues etc. How can you use a drug when you aren't even sure what is causing the symptom which in this case is EIPH?

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yo, yo, Campbell Soup,

Another retarded post from a fucked up asswipe, attention-starved idiot.  Campbell Soup was the one who just a short while back said Lasix caused broken bones.  Immediately, hundreds of people involved in that Santa Anita debacle came out to say that it had nothing to do with the deaths.  Stupid fuck.

Here's the bottom line:  Assholes like you and the other climate change retards like Agent Orange can nit pick the science all you want.  BUT...lasix helps.  For whatever reason.  I could not imagine trying to get one ready for a score and not having the horse on lasix.  That's why 95% of horsemen use it and that's why an equally fucked up piece of shit like your thoroughbred brother, Barry Irwin, gets on his soapbox about the evils of lasix and then uses it on his horses.  Typical fucking heeeeeeeeeeeebs.  Gural says no lasix and then has everyone of his own skins racing on it.  Same with Barry Irwin.   Grandstanding.  Until next time, darlings......... .HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 24, 2019, 10:28:47 AM
Wrong again Muffy. In fact you made my argument when you wrote that Lasix works for "whatever reason". Maybe I can simplify this for you. When one gets a headache, many take aspirin which takes away the symptom of throbbing pain and inflammation in your head. However, there are many reasons why one gets a headache such as high blood pressure, inner ear problems, eye sight problems, infection etc etc etc etc. When aspirin wears off, you will still have the contributing factor that caused the headache. Same with arthritis. Your theory that it works for "whatever reason" would allow me to take morphine,heroin or oxy to help with the pain of arthritis. However, when the morphine, heroin or oxy wears off, one will still have arthritis. If Lasix was the actual remedy for EIPH then horses wouldn't bleed as often as they do even though they are on it. Lasix is only treating a symptom and not the actual problem. Now go fuck yourself.

yo, yo, Campbell Soup,

Let me make it real easy for retards like you, Lice Man, Slim Shitty, and your insane leader in the White House, Agent Orange.  When it snows here, that does not mean climate change has been solved.  Or when the temperature drops below freezing, that does not mean we no longer face a climate change threat.  So, shut up about your reasons.  Fucking idiot.  They have studied lasix for a long time and do not know why horses bleed.  (I doubt that harness horses bleed anywhere near the runners.)  We're dealing with a racing problem here not some speculative circle jerk about the science.  Horsemen use it because it enhances performance, asswipe.  So while Jewffrey sucks that PETA cock, he is also trying to slow down da shit because all his bullshit about the Jackie Chan lab, Dick(head) Cote, building a wall against the Mexicans, etc., etc. didn't work.  You fucking retard.  Tell us all again how lasix broke those bones out there in LaLa Land.  LOL!  Until next time, retards.....HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 24, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
https://www.equinehealthlabs.com/lasix-and-blood-viscosity
Title: Re: Meadowlands Statement on Lasix Ban
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 24, 2019, 04:12:28 PM
yo, yo Mufftard
Once again, you made my point. You're in favor of giving a drug to horses that bleed but you have no idea why they bleed but since it enhances performance then it's OK. If you are or were a trainer, I will guarantee you are or were a shitty one. Until next time talentless, Heil Trump

yo, yo, Campbell Soup,

What a retard.  Please get your neighbor's 8 year old son to read my previous posts where I said I don't care what Jewffrey does with Lasix.  One of your Hitler Youth brothers, Barry Irwin, gave you the argument:  "I'm against lasix, but since it is such an advantage, I'm not going to avoid giving it to my horses."  You, me, Jewffrey and anybody else don't know why horses bleed.  What I do know is that you are one fucked up idiot.  When I raced against 8 Campbell Soups, I just went to the window.  Nothing you can do, kid.  You were born stupid.  And now you have a moron, Agent Orange, in high places that you can spend your day cheering on.  What a life.  Until next time, poorly educated......... HEIL HITLER!!
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