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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: topotheturn on April 01, 2020, 12:32:22 PM
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Based on estimation that most tracks will be off for several months, Once they re-open, will every single horse need to qualify before an actual race?
Gonna make handicapping very challenging the first couple weeks back
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45 day rule
will most likely be in effect
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Of course . 6 months off they will be qualifying for weeks
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The Brigade, 50 horses to qualify at every race track.
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When there was no winter racing horses didn't have to qualify before racing in the spring.
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It will be a hot mess. No racing for six months, at least. Then, the arguing, claims of favoritism, start over who gets to qualify first. The last thing anybody wants, is to have to wait around for weeks to squeeze into a qualifier, after racing resumes.
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IMO That won't happen like that. If this drags on for months the bigger tracks will most likely run qualifiers a lot more than once a week and will probably have 20 or so every time And that doesn't even include the baby races.
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Between Surrick and Allard there will be 200 less horses on East coast
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I wish I had Steeds now...NOTTTTTTTTT . Horseman are really getting fucked. Those eating machines gotta eat and get exercised. WTF. Hold on Boys, You ain't racing till 7/15/2020
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When there was no winter racing horses didn't have to qualify before racing in the spring.
If raced within 30 days
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I wish I had Steeds now...NOTTTTTTTTT . Horseman are really getting fucked. Those eating machines gotta eat and get exercised. WTF. Hold on Boys, You ain't racing till 7/15/2020
And you find humor in that?
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And you find humor in that?
gene
hes been tellin me hes buyin a horse for last 9 yrs hes still cryin about
the 4 grand smoilin beat him for 10 yrs ago,,
i asked him many times to take a small percent of any thing i buy hes passed on that since 2013 we are in 2020
,,3 weeks ago he asked me to got partners on a 4 grand horse and
give him to ryan able to train..i guess he got a 2000 alowed ,,from the boss
i told glen i dont race in ill ,,,
heres glens prob
,,hes wife wont let him buy a horse
and hes upset,,
glen is alright ,,
just is not allowed to buy a horse
ORDERS FROM THE BOSS.. tmbz1
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My wife won’t let me have any horses either.
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90day rule will be in effect
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90day rule will be in effect
Most people would rather qualify anyways if off too long. This ain’t good for anybody with any skin or time in this game.
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Most people would rather qualify anyways if off too long. This ain’t good for anybody with any skin or time in this game.
prob see 3 days of qualfiers at tracks like meadows,,hoosier ,ohio tracks,
bigm,,
especailly if this goes to mid june when the 2 yr olds start comin out.
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Going forward, racing had better come up with a better way of retaining and attracting new players. If anyone thinks when they flip the switch and turn this game back on that, players will flock to the same old product, is a fool.
If qualifying races for horses that have been off for extended periods is a burden to the horsemen and owners, it is imperative to give every effort to inform and protect the betting public. Not only should these horse need to qualify before racing, they should lower the qualifying times to show a real level of competitiveness.
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Going forward, racing had better come up with a better way of retaining and attracting new players. If anyone thinks when they flip the switch and turn this game back on that, players will flock to the same old product, is a fool.
If qualifying races for horses that have been off for extended periods is a burden to the horsemen and owners, it is imperative to give every effort to inform and protect the betting public. Not only should these horse need to qualify before racing, they should lower the qualifying times to show a real level of competitiveness.
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WHO gives a RATS ASS. This all you retards have to think about.
Get a new hobby. SLINGO should work for you simpletons.
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Based on estimation that most tracks will be off for several months, Once they re-open, will every single horse need to qualify before an actual race?
Gonna make handicapping very challenging the first couple weeks back
This is going to be a non issue. When the virus starts to spike downward and the other stages of the FBI operation are going to sink the industry once and for all. There is talk now that there will be no racing anywhere and the industry will never recover from these two thing the virus and the arrests. Already there are no people and it will only be worse because this is a great trauma to society and people will not go to places like a racetrack. It will take years for the average person to get over this virus phobia because the worst is yet to come. You might have one or two tracks but the harness industry is done. There are hundreds of arrests coming and add that to the affects of the virus and there is no hope. It is all over. I just sold a stallion share for 10 cents on the dollar. Just forget it. My mares are not being bred back this spring and I was smart to wait to breed them. They will just live out their lives at my son in law's farm.
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Going forward, racing had better come up with a better way of retaining and attracting new players. If anyone thinks when they flip the switch and turn this game back on that, players will flock to the same old product, is a fool.
If qualifying races for horses that have been off for extended periods is a burden to the horsemen and owners, it is imperative to give every effort to inform and protect the betting public. Not only should these horse need to qualify before racing, they should lower the qualifying times to show a real level of competitiveness.
Exactly
horsemen will say it's a burden
It's not about you --- it's about trying to get the customer to come back. Why is this business in almost every case dependent upon the casino's writing a check to keep the sport afloat.
some time ago
Management stopped caring about facilities.
Management started allowing ridiculous amounts of time between races
Management didn't get with the times with comps and rebates equal to casino's
Horsemen have done a lousy job assuring the customer that the business is on the up and up.
Wow -- let me grab a group of people and run to the local track
All sides forgot who the customer is and the importance they play. We all know it, there is a time, maybe sooner rather than later. The state of Ohio is running hundred million dollars behind on tax revenue. Legislature will need to find income resources from somewhere. So if they grab from the purse account, then what ? Whine and say that's our money ? Then what has the industry done to help itself become sufficient over the last decade ?
This is going to be interesting as millions are piling onto the unemployment side of life. Remember the
customer ? They guy who buys burgers at McD's….. The person who buys a car from Ford.....
Not sure of any business that goal is to treat the customer as down the line in importance.
Harness Industry -- asked many times, what ya going to do to change ?
for starters, qualify the horses and put the races online.... Wahhh then we have to bring a video camera guy in
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Dink, this is the time a leader or clear and meaningful leadership is paramount. Since we don't have that on an industry level, I see the states as the bodies that will make the decisions based on their needs at the time without a master plan.
It will prove disastrous for any sought of success in moving the industry forward.
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It will be a hot mess. No racing for six months, at least. Then, the arguing, claims of favoritism, start over who gets to qualify first. The last thing anybody wants, is to have to wait around for weeks to squeeze into a qualifier, after racing resumes.
That's a bit much. 6 months ? Not quite. In Ohio the shutdown is only till April 30th.
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Any horse that raced within 2 weeks of shutdown, should not have to qualify.
Qualifying is useless the thourobreds don’t do it.
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That's a bit much. 6 months ? Not quite. In Ohio the shutdown is only till April 30th.
sometime in may
shit will get Rollin again
don't klnow which track will prob go first
,,but the nonsense of shuttin down the American economy and life for everyone in this country '
is over ,,fck the democrats
and if u catcha flu and you die'
oops
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then u fckin die....just one of those things
casualty of war u can called it,,,
killing Americans by killing theirs economy .. livelyhoods and businesses is over..
yes I didn't get corona BUT MY FAMILY DIED CUS WE STARVED CUS EVERYTHING IN AMERICA CLOSED DOWN 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt ,,how stupid does that sound in this day and age
CHINA GOTTA BE LAUGHING THIER ASSES OF AT US AGAIN
HOW MANY TIMES ARE THE CHINESE GONNA SPIN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC
ALMOST 3 MONTHS NOW OF THE SKY IFALLIN THE SKY IS FALLING
..THATS ENUFF
AND FUCKIN TRUMP
THAT PUMPKIN HEAD LOOKING MUTHERFUCKER BETTER GET HIS ASS OUT OF THE
TANNING BED AND START BEING PRESIDENT AGAIN
INSTEAD OF BEING A PUSSY LAST 2 MONTHS
..period
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^ Great post ^
Top 10 plops rant of all time. tmbz1
I am blessed to have read it.
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Rough Crowd, I owned many in the day when you could make $$$$$, You can't make money now. PERIOD.
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Lucpark, Open up the books. How much $$$$ you make since Roger told you to get lost ????
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I’m down 2 mill last 8 yrs and your point
Glen
I’m not worried about it.
U are.
I’m still gonna but five or six a yr
Every yr
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Rocco this guy is a fucking expert tmbz1
He’s counting your $$$$ pretty good
Hey owned a few in my day guy, name is those few will you
Help us out teach us a few things. Gotta go wife don’t know I’m on horseplop
Need permission and I didn’t ask ngc3
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great Investment. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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There are Pigeons in every business. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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STILL DRUNK AND SHITFACED FROM LAST NIGHT
DRINKIN ALL NIGHT AGAIN ngc3 ngc3
GLEN
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IM SORRY YOUR HEN PECKED AND HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY DOLLA U SPEND
I FEEL YOUR PAIN ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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You are a real piece of work. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Go take the dog for a walk.
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Aqua you sound like swoodall now tmbz1
I know you had some bad luck in the past guy
Ask the old lady for a few $$$$ I’ll get you in a 4 claimer
How many partners you need 2/3/4?
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GLEN MUST FEEL SICK NOW
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Aqua you sound like swoodall now tmbz1
I know you had some bad luck in the past guy
Ask the old lady for a few $$$$ I’ll get you in a 4 claimer
How many partners you need 2/3/4?
THE GUY IS BUGGING ME TO GO HALF A 4K HORSE
I TOLD HIM PASS,,I DONT RACE IN ILLINOIS OR RACE CLAIMERS
HES ALL FCKIN UPSET NOW
..WOW IM FLOORED
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THE GUY IS BUGGING ME TO GO HALF A 4K HORSE
I TOLD HIM PASS,,I DONT RACE IN ILLINOIS OR RACE CLAIMERS
HES ALL FCKIN UPSET NOW
..WOW IM FLOORED
HALF A 4K HORSE? GLEN CANT GO IT ALONE?
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GLEN MUST FEEL SICK NOW
GUY LOSES A FEW BUCKS GAMBLING ..GETS ROBBED AND HOSED BY GYPSY AND FEW OTHER TRAINERS AT OLD BALMORAL PARK 10 YRS AGO,,(hes still cryin about it )
AND NOW HES MAD AT ME
..WDF,,IM FLOORED
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HALF A 4K HORSE? GLEN CANT GO IT ALONE?
he cant go across the street alone
has ck in hrourly of his where abouts ,,from his boss
,,cant spend over 8 bucks a day
..any outside of gum and soda pop hes gotta verify and get permission to buy
,,im floored
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he cant go across the street alone
has ck in hrourly of his where abouts ,,from his boss
,,cant spend over 8 bucks a day
..any outside of gum and soda pop hes gotta verify and get permission to buy
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
,,im floored
BOUGHT IN ON A RAT IN CHICAGO...NOT SHOCKING NEWS
BET WIFE BEAT THE SHIT OUTTA HIM ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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BOUGHT IN ON A RAT IN CHICAGO...NOT SHOCKING NEWS
BET WIFE BEAT THE SHIT OUTTA HIM ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
HE GOT FLEECED BY GYPSY AND FEW OTHERS
,,WANTS TO BUY ANOTHER ,,SBSW FOR 33OO
IDK,,,
IF THATS GONNA HAPPEN
I WISH HIM LUCK'
HES A FAMILY MAN GOOD GUY AND A CHRISTIAN
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HE GOT FLEECED BY GYPSY AND FEW OTHERS
,,WANTS TO BUY ANOTHER ,,SBSW FOR 33OO
IDK,,,
IF THATS GONNA HAPPEN
I WISH HIM LUCK'
HES A FAMILY MAN GOOD GUY AND A CHRISTIAN
A SBSW FOR 3300...BET HE IS AS CROOKED AS THE SELLER ngc3
I THINK ADAM IS SMARTER THAN THIS GUY
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A SBSW FOR 3300...BET HE IS AS CROOKED AS THE SELLER ngc3
I THINK ADAM IS SMARTER THAN THIS GUY
ADAM IS A EYE DR,,
GLEN IS A PIGEON
,,I TOLD HIM 10 YRS AGO DONT GET TRAINERS ON DEALS,IT NEVER ENDS WELL
WHAT HAPPENS HE GETS TRAINERS ON DEALS,,
AND THEN GETS RAPED,,AND IS MAD AT ME
IM THE VICTIM HARE tmbz1
IM HURT AND FLOORED
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ADAM IS A EYE DR,,
GLEN IS A PIGEON
,,I TOLD HIM 10 YRS AGO DONT GET TRAINERS ON DEALS,IT NEVER ENDS WELL
WHAT HAPPENS HE GETS TRAINERS ON DEALS,,
AND THEN GETS RAPED,,AND IS MAD AT ME
IM THE VICTIM HARE tmbz1
IM HURT AND FLOORED
IF HE CANT PLAY THE GAME HE SHOULD JUST WATCH IS WHAT IM HEARING HERE?
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IF HE CANT PLAY THE GAME HE SHOULD JUST WATCH IS WHAT IM HEARING HERE?
ALL I KNOW IF I GET A 1500 WORD ESSAY TELLING ME HOW SORRY HE IS FOR HURTING MY FEELINGS
I WILL FORGIVE HIM
,,IM HURT AND FLOORED AT THIS POINT
...I WONT GET OVER THIS FOR MONTHS tmbz1
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ALL I KNOW IF I GET A 1500 WORD ESSAY TELLING ME HOW SORRY HE IS FOR HURTING MY FEELINGS
I WILL FORGIVE HIM
,,IM HURT AND FLOORED AT THIS POINT
...I WONT GET OVER THIS FOR MONTHS tmbz1
GLEN WONT HAVE ANY HORSES TO QUALIFY
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GLEN WONT HAVE ANY HORSES TO QUALIFY
LAST HORSE HE BOUGHT 10 YRS
TRAINER SOLD HIM AND SIGNED HIS NAME
BUT THATS FOR ANOTHER THREAD ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
IM TELLING U..GLEN IS A GOOD GUY A SOFTIE
BUT 1000 PERCENT PIGEON MATERIAL
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LAST HORSE HE BOUGHT 10 YRS
TRAINER SOLD HIM AND SIGNED HIS NAME
BUT THATS FOR ANOTHER THREAD ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
IM TELLING U..GLEN IS A GOOD GUY A SOFTIE
BUT 1000 PERCENT PIGEON MATERIAL
GLEN...JUST SIGN RIGHT HERE, WOULD YA? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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all tracks will be holding qualifiers in the summer/fall.
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That's a bit much. 6 months ? Not quite. In Ohio the shutdown is only till April 30th.
I stand by my prediction. I put the over/under at Labor Day - and I'll take the over all day.
The only way racing resumes, particularly on the east coast, is if every person admitted to the paddock is able to be tested first, with the 15 minute version of test. That would look something like a drive up testing point in the parking lot, with results texted to you. If negative, you would then be allowed to unload, and enter the paddock, showing the guard your text. If positive, your horse is scratched, but may enter the next week with a different handler.
Unfortunately, as a country the response to this pandemic as it relates to testing, and the procurement of an adequate amount of kits has been massively botched, so the idea of having literally millions of test kits available so we can return to some semblance of normalcy in all aspects of life, is only a dream. Lacking that, no track is going to want to be the one that comes back too soon, and winding up looking like a serial killer when the dominos start to fall.
The only way we race, eat in restaurants, go back to work, or go to ballgames again, is through extreme and persistent testing. Millions and millions of them - and I don't see a clear plan of that happening.
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No state will allow their employees back till they have a month of very low hospitalizations, The are not going to put lives at risk for the standard bred business. Casinos also, open up have an outbreak and we will never get back. Wait it out and quit bitchen.
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No
Give the customer another reason not to gamble
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Yes, get rid of...for reasons Ray said. tmbz1
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too many idiots on this forum
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Most are dolts,,, but not as dumb as Calhoun
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too many idiots on this forum
qualify is a waste and u know it
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qualify is a waste and u know it
imho ,,two qualifers are needed for every horse after 3 or month layoff thats my opinion
only
..and im always right
so there u have it
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qualify is a waste and u know it
I think the game has passed you bye
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I think the game has passed you bye
HES JUST LOOKIN TO BUG ME UP
HES KNOWS HOW TO
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I may need ED to rake my yard,,,,,,,
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I think the game has passed you bye
When was the last time YOU cashed anything besides a grocery ticket?
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I may need ED to rake my yard,,,,,,,
I may need JOE to fix my teeth ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ;D
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I’m a professional Edward
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I’m a professional Edward
con man
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con man
Funny coming from a carni ,,,,,sorry I mean groomer
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Funny coming from a carni ,,,,,sorry I mean groomer
;D ;D ;D ;D
OUCH
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Funny coming from a carni ,,,,,sorry I mean groomer
Funny coming from a Macys Day balloon that can't balance a checkbook.
PcD got 6 live fans, and he gets tossed ngc3 ngc3 ngc3.
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I thought we are friends Edwardo
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I thought we are friends Edwardo
OK WE ARE
I JUST CANT HANDLE THE RAKE JOKES
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No prob
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Most are dolts,,, but not as dumb as Calhoun
The fatter you get, the ore you hate me,
You obese slob
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Tentative plans as of right now no qualifiers at all open up the box and everybody’s into race tentative plans are for roughly right around the first week or so of May TRUTH
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No chance,,,IMO
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My favorite dolt,,,,,total pigeon
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we will see, shame we bet on this!
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I will need to free some loose
to qualify theirs
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No way they start May 1st in NJ, Gov lengthened stay at home till 5/20. Per NJ stay at home rules¨Race tracks, including stabling facilities, and retail sports wagering facilities¨ Do you think YOU will get a special dispensation for harness racing, I sure don´t think so.
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despite what you may think of him , i cant argue with the two points he makes in the article
i understand that bettors need information but are qualifiers the best way , they are expensive in time and money
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He should move closer to pocono if he doesnt like the commute
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despite what you may think of him , i cant argue with the two points he makes in the article
i understand that bettors need information but are qualifiers the best way , they are expensive in time and money
so you feel that integrity with the customer is less important than horsemen saving money.
Couldn't you imagine any company that could produce anything give the customer crap to save money. Man,,,, they would be called every money grabbing mother fucker in the book.... And then blame trump.
But it's harness racing, a failing model but hey they're right.
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FOR GOD'S sakes you DIPSHITS.
JUST ask: COOOOUUUNSEELOOOR R.
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IF YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE COST OF A QUALIFIER
(THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BILL THE OWNER FOR ANYWAYS)
YOU SHOULDNT BE IN THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE
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i would like to see all horse have 4 qualifiers before racing in a parimutual race
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4,,,, why not 14 then
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4,,,, why not 14 then
agree
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Stay safe my friend
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While we're at it lets pass a law that New Zealand invaders need to show 3 or 4 Qs in the States
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What's with all these dummy derbies ?????