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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: boscoman on November 09, 2023, 07:59:46 PM
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How come when a few of Gural’s trainers came up with positive’s at Yonkers a while back he didn’t toss them out. He issued a statement that everyone shouldn’t jump to conclusions and let things play out. Then a few weeks later they said that the positive’s were a result of contamination from the atmosphere. Seems like if they’re not Gural’s trainer they’re juicers and if it’s one of his trainers they come up with some B.S excuse.
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Two face scum
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This is the worst case of "Inmates running the asilym"I've seen in a long time! Gural should be barred from any from of participation until this entire situation is adjudicated!SMMFH!
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Gural also believes in global warming although if it were true none of the banks that finance his properties would...
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Gural could buy all you jerk with his money why do you guys keep complaining about him give it up he is here till he dies then you will cry when there is no one to run them.
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Money doesn't buy character and integrity or honesty asshole.
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Money doesn't buy character and integrity or honesty asshole.
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What does money have to do with anything ? I guess it must mean people with money are better people ngc3 ngc3
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I have to laugh at this topic..... If it wasn't for the King Jew harness racing as we know it in New Jersey wouldn't exist!
The Horsemen should bend over and kiss this Jew's ass and thank him for what he's done for the business! He happens to be a great guy.
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I have no idea why Gural's religion comes into play. What's next, skin color? Speaks to the author not Gural. I can't say that I agree with everything he's done. I don't agree with every decision he's made. However, he's done more to improve this sport and this business than any other person in the entire industry. You don't like him or what he does, boycott his tracks...and tell your story walking.
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The 'AUTHOR' said nothing of religion.. Petey did. 11.wp
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The 'AUTHOR' said nothing of religion.. Petey did. 11.wp
I didn't say the author did. I saw a post and that's the one I was referencing. Good to know anti-semitism is alive and well on this BB.
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He’s a lousy hypocrite and I don’t support any of his tracks or casinos.
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I didn't say the author did. I saw a post and that's the one I was referencing. Good to know anti-semitism is alive and well on this BB.
What was so antisemitic about my statement?
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I have no idea why Gural's religion comes into play. What's next, skin color? Speaks to the author not Gural. I can't say that I agree with everything he's done. I don't agree with every decision he's made. However, he's done more to improve this sport and this business than any other person in the entire industry. You don't like him or what he does, boycott his tracks...and tell your story walking.
Exactly, well said.
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The fact that you had to specify his religion speaks to it Petey.
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I want to know what he gonna do about the fire..seems like lawsuits coming....
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Law Suit what are you talking about this bum does not have a dime or are you talking about Gural at fault I cannot see anything here for a law suit.
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Law Suit what are you talking about this bum does not have a dime or are you talking about Gural at fault I cannot see anything here for a law suit.
As they say..."You can sue a Ham Sandwich" these days. I have no doubt that there will be litigation either first against the property owners, and ultimately a pay out by the insurance coverages. Unfortunately in todays world litigation is ramped. You can be sure with certainty, there will be law suites.
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The fact that you had to specify his religion speaks to it Petey.
So that constitutes anti-Semitism? Please go suck Bidens arse!
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I hate Biden as much as the next guy. So why is it that you specify that he's Jewish in a post discussing his testing and horseman exclusions?
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Bidin is not a Jew where do you come up with this shit and who will sue Gural about this fire they better have deep pockets.
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Bidin is not a Jew where do you come up with this shit and who will sue Gural about this fire they better have deep pockets.
I know Biden’s not Jew!
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I hate Biden as much as the next guy. So why is it that you specify that he's Jewish in a post discussing his testing and horseman exclusions?
I never specified where Biden is a Jew.
My nickname for Gural is The King Jew! Is he not??
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to many sensitive people on this now WORTHLESS FORUM
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maybe just stay off this place and your feelings wont get hurt
fckin liberals have ruined this country
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I never specified where Biden is a Jew.
My nickname for Gural is The King Jew! Is he not??
He is not.
The late Charlton Heston was.
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He is not.
The late Charlton Heston was.
Judah Ben hur
Or
Moses
Was great in high movies
But
KING OF KINGS is my favorite movie
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Would get days for excessive whipping nowadays ngc3
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to many sensitive people on this now WORTHLESS FORUM
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maybe just stay off this place and your feelings wont get hurt
fckin liberals have ruined this country
I agree Luc! They actually take this serious, I take it as a fucking joke I come here purely for entertainment.
Gural has become the KING JEW of harness racing and yet I get called a anti-semi!
If it wasn’t for the KING JEW half of the New Jersey horseman would be fighting over driving school buses and garbage trucks.
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Who is this blonde girl gural has talking about races tonight? She is just reading off program lines to whoever is watching what's the point?
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to many sensitive people on this now WORTHLESS FORUM
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maybe just stay off this place and your feelings wont get hurt
fckin liberals have ruined this country
As a non-liberal..
The racism on this site is ridiculous. I come here because there are knowledgeable people and I love talking horseracing. The points are valid, so no need to bring race/creed into it.
No hurt feelings, just eye rolls.
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Who is this blonde girl gural has talking about races tonight? She is just reading off program lines to whoever is watching what's the point?
She is the other lady’s sister. I think she does this work for some Midwest racetrack.
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There are so many fucking hypocrites when it comes to Gural. The same posters who scream that horsemen are always looking for handouts curse and bash Gural when he doesn't offer a handout. The man is running a business idiots. If you don't like the way he operates, don't wager at any of his tracks. The problem that you all can't handle is M1 is the best track in the country for many reasons such as, it is not beholden to a casino, it has a large handle so your $50 bet doesn't short circuit the tote board, the facility is beautiful and clean, it is easily accessible from many locations and the track configuration and surface is second to none.Those are some of the reasons why it possesses the best horses, drivers and trainers. I'm assuming the people that bash Gural are probably linked to scumbag criminals that aren't allowed to race there. BOOHOO!!
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AND they race a 'WHOLE' two days a week and still have to card those Amateur to fill those days. 11.wp
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AND they race a 'WHOLE' two days a week and still have to card those Amateur to fill those days. 11.wp
And in those "WHOLE" two days, amatuer races included out handle 2 weeks of wagering at your yahoo Ohio tracks jackass!!!!
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If they are such an attractive option for horseman , gamblers, attendees, why only two days, Junior?
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If they are such an attractive option for horseman , gamblers, attendees, why only two days, Junior?
Probably not enough horses to fill more cards but I don't know for sure.
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I rather enjoy my hypocrisy Mike Campbell
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If they are such an attractive option for horseman , gamblers, attendees, why only two days, Junior?
Gurals begging only got them enough state welfare for 2 days a week of purses. Gural would lose substantial money if he raced more days.
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I rather enjoy my hypocrisy Mike Campbell
Whatever floats your boat XYZ tmbz1
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If they are such an attractive option for horseman , gamblers, attendees, why only two days, Junior?
Because without casinos subsidies they still have to keep the purses at a level to compete for horses
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Gurals begging only got them enough state welfare for 2 days a week of purses. Gural would lose substantial money if he raced more days.
First and foremost, racing is a business. I am sure they have worked the numbers and realize that racing 2 days with handle over 6 million is financially smarter than diluting the bottom line with more racing days
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Because without casinos subsidies they still have to keep the purses at a level to compete for horses
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if meadowlands had slot welfare they would race
double headers 7days a week
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if meadowlands had slot welfare they would race
double headers 7days a week
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Must have forgot to tell the 'TOP' drivers they were racing last night. No big stakes anywhere either for an excuse. Three amateurs, Tyler + Marcus Miller, Braxton Boyd [actually not bad but hardly 'TOP'] Chindano Jr. Ridge Warren, Bradley Chisholm[??]all winners there. Be still my beating heart.
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There are so many fucking hypocrites when it comes to Gural. The same posters who scream that horsemen are always looking for handouts curse and bash Gural when he doesn't offer a handout. The man is running a business idiots. If you don't like the way he operates, don't wager at any of his tracks. The problem that you all can't handle is M1 is the best track in the country for many reasons such as, it is not beholden to a casino, it has a large handle so your $50 bet doesn't short circuit the tote board, the facility is beautiful and clean, it is easily accessible from many locations and the track configuration and surface is second to none.Those are some of the reasons why it possesses the best horses, drivers and trainers. I'm assuming the people that bash Gural are probably linked to scumbag criminals that aren't allowed to race there. BOOHOO!!
I agree they should be kissing this Jews ass thanking him!
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I agree they should be kissing this Jews ass thanking him!
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There are so many fucking hypocrites when it comes to Gural.
I'm not quoting the rest but it's all just as good. Gold star for Mike Campbell.
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Just thanking him for all of his driving 'TIPS'. ngc3
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Anyone ever think that it's NOT always Gural responsible for making decisions regarding horsemen.?
The ass kissers and brown nosers are always around trying to big note themselves influencing Gural.
For example---they will turn a drop of water into an ocean when describing a drug positive. Make the horsemen a total drug abuser--so Gural will then ban the horsemen. They get a slap on the back and get praised for their hard work.
There are horsemen aplenty--NEVER had a positive at the Meadowlands --banned by Gural--simply by the information these ass kissers provided.
Im not saying that all horsemen are innocent--as noted by the ones in prison. However - to stop the real cheats--people like Gural need more accurate information to determine who is actually just a cheat--or someone who is a genuine top horseman who loves his animals and only uses medication that will help the horse but not performance enhancing.
I dont get banning a horseman from the Gural tracks--simply because he has a therapeutic drug positive.
Personally--I would ban a horseman that uses drugs/stacking as a prerace and is performance enhancing ie--without the drugs--the horse won't be any good.
The list that Gural banned horseman for--is largely Fishman conning money from Horseman. Im not a chemist--but I read that most of the stuff Fishman sold was tested and contained harmless ingredients touted as being a treatment.ie Rip-off.
Certainly, there are people on there that should have no business touching a horse--pure cheats---but many are people who thought they were buying treatments for horse ailments--that were snake oil.
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There are horsemen aplenty--NEVER had a positive at the Meadowlands --banned by Gural--simply by the information these ass kissers provided.
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Anyone ever think that it's NOT always Gural responsible for making decisions regarding horsemen.?
The ass kissers and brown nosers are always around trying to big note themselves influencing Gural.
For example---they will turn a drop of water into an ocean when describing a drug positive. Make the horsemen a total drug abuser--so Gural will then ban the horsemen. They get a slap on the back and get praised for their hard work.
There are horsemen aplenty--NEVER had a positive at the Meadowlands --banned by Gural--simply by the information these ass kissers provided.
Im not saying that all horsemen are innocent--as noted by the ones in prison. However - to stop the real cheats--people like Gural need more accurate information to determine who is actually just a cheat--or someone who is a genuine top horseman who loves his animals and only uses medication that will help the horse but not performance enhancing.
I dont get banning a horseman from the Gural tracks--simply because he has a therapeutic drug positive.
Personally--I would ban a horseman that uses drugs/stacking as a prerace and is performance enhancing ie--without the drugs--the horse won't be any good.
The list that Gural banned horseman for--is largely Fishman conning money from Horseman. Im not a chemist--but I read that most of the stuff Fishman sold was tested and contained harmless ingredients touted as being a treatment.ie Rip-off.
Certainly, there are people on there that should have no business touching a horse--pure cheats---but many are people who thought they were buying treatments for horse ailments--that were snake oil.
He only banned the ones that bought EPO and TB-7. Both known performance enhancing. And easy to kill one with if not watching the blood work carefully
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I'm not quoting the rest but it's all just as good. Gold star for Mike Campbell.
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Sounds like you speak from experience. ;D
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Anyone ever think that it's NOT always Gural responsible for making decisions regarding horsemen.?
The ass kissers and brown nosers are always around trying to big note themselves influencing Gural.
For example---they will turn a drop of water into an ocean when describing a drug positive. Make the horsemen a total drug abuser--so Gural will then ban the horsemen. They get a slap on the back and get praised for their hard work.
There are horsemen aplenty--NEVER had a positive at the Meadowlands --banned by Gural--simply by the information these ass kissers provided.
Im not saying that all horsemen are innocent--as noted by the ones in prison. However - to stop the real cheats--people like Gural need more accurate information to determine who is actually just a cheat--or someone who is a genuine top horseman who loves his animals and only uses medication that will help the horse but not performance enhancing.
I dont get banning a horseman from the Gural tracks--simply because he has a therapeutic drug positive.
Personally--I would ban a horseman that uses drugs/stacking as a prerace and is performance enhancing ie--without the drugs--the horse won't be any good.
The list that Gural banned horseman for--is largely Fishman conning money from Horseman. Im not a chemist--but I read that most of the stuff Fishman sold was tested and contained harmless ingredients touted as being a treatment.ie Rip-off.
Certainly, there are people on there that should have no business touching a horse--pure cheats---but many are people who thought they were buying treatments for horse ailments--that were snake oil.
I'm not so sure about that, sounds like Horseman's bullshit to me.
The KING JEW is not stupid he's not going to ban anybody that's not worthy of being banded. The man is a successful businessman he doesn't need to have an ego when it comes to Horsemen and they're bullshit.
He knows he's the King Jew and rightfully so.
Like I had mentioned once before, the Horseman should bend over and kiss this Jew's ass thanking him for providing such a fine facility to race at. He's a great guy!
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I'm not quoting the rest but it's all just as good. Gold star for Mike Campbell.
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I’m convinced Gaagoots most favorite hobby is watching old films of the Nazi’s marching all those innocent people into the gas chambers. Then for desert he gets thrills watching the Nazi’s shoveling the dead into mass graves. You have to wonder what Gural has done to the King Bigot of Horseplop? Did Gural pass Gaagoots on a street and not put money in his tin cup? Did Gaagoots offer his girlfriend to Gural for a price but Gural told him he wouldn’t put his dick into anyone where Gaagoots has been? Or is it the more obvious that Gural is an incredibly successful, charitable and decent family man who happens to be of the Jewish faith? Whatever the reasons are for Gaagoots utter bigotry, we and the rest of the world would be much better if he climbed back under the rock he came from.
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I’m convinced Gaagoots most favorite hobby is watching old films of the Nazi’s marching all those innocent people into the gas chambers. Then for desert he gets thrills watching the Nazi’s shoveling the dead into mass graves. You have to wonder what Gural has done to the King Bigot of Horseplop? Did Gural pass Gaagoots on a street and not put money in his tin cup? Did Gaagoots offer his girlfriend to Gural for a price but Gural told him he wouldn’t put his dick into anyone where Gaagoots has been? Or is it the more obvious that Gural is an incredibly successful, charitable and decent family man who happens to be of the Jewish faith? Whatever the reasons are for Gaagoots utter bigotry, we and the rest of the world would be much better if he climbed back under the rock he came from.
I say it should be dealt with as a slug-fest/ Insult battle royale, between GAYGOOTS and MIKEANT. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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I’m convinced Gaagoots most favorite hobby is watching old films of the Nazi’s marching all those innocent people into the gas chambers. Then for desert he gets thrills watching the Nazi’s shoveling the dead into mass graves. You have to wonder what Gural has done to the King Bigot of Horseplop? Did Gural pass Gaagoots on a street and not put money in his tin cup? Did Gaagoots offer his girlfriend to Gural for a price but Gural told him he wouldn’t put his dick into anyone where Gaagoots has been? Or is it the more obvious that Gural is an incredibly successful, charitable and decent family man who happens to be of the Jewish faith? Whatever the reasons are for Gaagoots utter bigotry, we and the rest of the world would be much better if he climbed back under the rock he came from.
I second that motion!
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I’m convinced Gaagoots most favorite hobby is watching old films of the Nazi’s marching all those innocent people into the gas chambers. Then for desert he gets thrills watching the Nazi’s shoveling the dead into mass graves. You have to wonder what Gural has done to the King Bigot of Horseplop? Did Gural pass Gaagoots on a street and not put money in his tin cup? Did Gaagoots offer his girlfriend to Gural for a price but Gural told him he wouldn’t put his dick into anyone where Gaagoots has been? Or is it the more obvious that Gural is an incredibly successful, charitable and decent family man who happens to be of the Jewish faith? Whatever the reasons are for Gaagoots utter bigotry, we and the rest of the world would be much better if he climbed back under the rock he came from.
Like most on here he is jealous of anyone that is successful
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I’m convinced Gaagoots most favorite hobby is watching old films of the Nazi’s marching all those innocent people into the gas chambers. Then for desert he gets thrills watching the Nazi’s shoveling the dead into mass graves. You have to wonder what Gural has done to the King Bigot of Horseplop? Did Gural pass Gaagoots on a street and not put money in his tin cup? Did Gaagoots offer his girlfriend to Gural for a price but Gural told him he wouldn’t put his dick into anyone where Gaagoots has been? Or is it the more obvious that Gural is an incredibly successful, charitable and decent family man who happens to be of the Jewish faith? Whatever the reasons are for Gaagoots utter bigotry, we and the rest of the world would be much better if he climbed back under the rock he came from.
You're not very intelligent are you? Since when did the word King Jew become anti-Semitic?? Then again what can you expect from a degenerate gambler that's got his nose in the program 24 seven. It's nice to see you've studied history unlike most around here.
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I say it should be dealt with as a slug-fest/ Insult battle royale, between GAYGOOTS and MIKEANT. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Hey where has Mike been?
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You ok Petey? Lay off a bit maybe ngc3
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I’m convinced Gaagoots most favorite hobby is watching old films of the Nazi’s marching all those innocent people into the gas chambers. Then for desert he gets thrills watching the Nazi’s shoveling the dead into mass graves. You have to wonder what Gural has done to the King Bigot of Horseplop? Did Gural pass Gaagoots on a street and not put money in his tin cup? Did Gaagoots offer his girlfriend to Gural for a price but Gural told him he wouldn’t put his dick into anyone where Gaagoots has been? Or is it the more obvious that Gural is an incredibly successful, charitable and decent family man who happens to be of the Jewish faith? Whatever the reasons are for Gaagoots utter bigotry, we and the rest of the world would be much better if he climbed back under the rock he came from.
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You ok Petey? Lay off a bit maybe ngc3
All good thanks. Hope you’re doing well!
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I am sure plenty of people here can take it even more than they dish it out. Maybe some can't. Doesn't matter. This has nothing to do with the reader. It has to do with the author. It's easy for the guilty to point to others and say overreaction, oversensitive, or whatever. Doesn't change anything about the guilty. Antisemitism is not just hate. It's not just prejudice. Antisemitism can be a perspective, or a perception. It can be a certain perception, and while that perception may be expressed as hatred, it doesn't have to be. The mere reference, as identification, as a label, can be rhetorical, physical, economic, or otherwise. Even if the statement is true, for example, "the guy over there, the Jew," can be antisemitism in nature. "A jew" or "The jew" or whatever it is. It can be cause or effect, origin or byproduct. Why not the short guy, the guy with the beard, the real estate mogul, etc. Physical attributes can be harmful too, but unless it's an extreme, it's not hatred-based. "The guy over there, that midget" is egregious, hate-based.
Making mendacious, demeaning, or stereotypical allegations, casting aspersions, about Jews, their money, the power they have collectively, specifically or especially but not exclusively, like the myth about Jewish conspiracy, or the Jews controlling Hollywood, the media, and so on, is antisemitism. It doesn't matter if it's an individual Jewish person or an entire group. It doesn't matter...WTF does Gural's religion have to do with anything. True or not. It makes a statement. That is only part of the problem we have here in our country, the decisiveness, the conflict, labels, where they come from, what they mean. Cause, effect, origin or byproduct. Doesn't matter. Go ahead, point the finger at me that I am overreacting, overly sensitive, I'm a wimp, weak, whatever. Calling me a life-long horseman is not hatred. Calling me or Gural "a Jew" is antisemitism.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/05/jew-not-slur/
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You're not very intelligent are you? Since when did the word King Jew become anti-Semitic?? Then again what can you expect from a degenerate gambler that's got his nose in the program 24 seven. It's nice to see you've studied history unlike most around here.
When you Gaagoots starts calling other people of color, religions etc by these names..King African, King Roman Catholic, King Protestant, King Muslim etc., then I may consider his claim he isn’t a Jew hating bigot. Until then I will believe the obvious.
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When you Gaagoots starts calling other people of color, religions etc by these names..King African, King Roman Catholic, King Protestant, King Muslim etc., then I may consider his claim he isn’t a Jew hating bigot. Until then I will believe the obvious.
Sorry King Jew it's not anti-Semitic. I also praised him for bailing out the New Jersey Horsemen if you paid attention you would have seen where I said the New Jersey Horsemen should kiss this Jew's ass for saving harness racing in NJ!
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You just have to ignore him..He knows what he is doing..Trying to stir up shit, get a rise out of people. Really a dick.
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With out Gural there would be 3 less tracks to race he is the best thing in helping racing in 50 years where would you race with out him you can hate all you want he helps racing you jerks just cry.
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With out Gural there would be 3 less tracks to race he is the best thing in helping racing in 50 years where would you race with out him you can hate all you want he helps racing you jerks just cry.
Agree Norma Rae
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Gural's segment had little consequence to the way the interview was already heading. Licking the TB deaths directly to the doping when a large segment of TB break downs are weak and too refined skeletal structures, does not apply here. If in fact you look at European TB's they have much heavier bone structures. race longer and carry more weight. The American TB's are weakly put together as a whole. Although...I am not discounting the fact that nerve blockers and pain relievers Do attribute to some break downs where an issue is already present. The FACTS still remain Navarro, Servis Surick, Oaks, and the related Vets and other contingencies are the very scum that push the animals beyond their limits for one reason and one reason only, $$$! And that is the very reason people like this should have NO involvement in what was once considered the sport of Kings.
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Agreed, XYZ.
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“You would see horses that were going a certain speed, and then the new trainer would take over, and the next week the horse would be two seconds faster… It's impossible,” says racetrack operator Jeff Gural!
Right on the money!
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“You would see horses that were going a certain speed, and then the new trainer would take over, and the next week the horse would be two seconds faster… It's impossible,” says racetrack operator Jeff Gural!
Right on the money!
All true unless the new owners ship into Pocono Downs where everyone goes faster even if they race backwards.
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With out Gural there would be 3 less tracks to race he is the best thing in helping racing in 50 years where would you race with out him you can hate all you want he helps racing you jerks just cry.
But there can still be three less tracks that simply become 3 casinos without race tracks. Whats your point?