Pennsylvania Governor doing the right thing

[LUCPARK]

Ohio's is as good as any.  A lot will move there.

INDY HAS MORE LEGS 

OHIO 4 LEGS AND FINAL

INDY 7 I BELIEV E

AND FINAL SAME 250K

[PIGLAND]

racing really doesnt need chester,pocono ,meadows ,greoge nap and burke

[horses first]

Ohio has more advantages with year around racing, larger overnight purses, and more tracks then just the single track in IN that is closed four months a year. Live in OH gives you eligibility to race and if one owns IN bred horse could easily ship. Also if stables in the middle have time the fair racing is much better then IN.

[LUCPARK]

Ohio has more advantages with year around racing, larger overnight purses, and more tracks then just the single track in IN that is closed four months a year. Live in OH gives you eligibility to race and if one owns IN bred horse could easily ship. Also if stables in the middle have time the fair racing is much better then IN.

im talking sires racing not over night racing

which i give 2 fcks about overnight racing

indy sires in my opinion

are the best

you just need  a fast 2 or 3 yr old

they race hard early have them ready

[horses first]

First off your comment is about big stables. So it doesn't matter what YOUR thoughts are about overnights. If a big stable has to move it isn't based on sire stakes if just 10-15% of their barn is sire stake material. So therefore overnights matter and having year long racing with multiple tracks matter. All those go into moving a large stable if PA was to close their doors or to pre level purses before a racino gave a lifeline. Also what matters OH has restrictions unlike IN where anyone can get in whether you reside or not in IN. So unless you change your thread about big stables and your response back being about yourself...OH has more to offer along with more studs, better breeding farms, and less Amish horses at a sale. Again what big barns are looking for at investing.

[bestbetter]

Maybe all the Harness tracks will close, Then we can concentrate on sports gambling... (sarcasm)

[LUCPARK]

indy has a better sires program than ohio

imho

i will leave it that,,

[horses first]

So then it wasn't about big stables and I'll leave it at that.

[LUCPARK]

i give to fcks about big stables i care about where i race..

indy has better program imho
 and way better to race on a big track than a bull ring like northfiled or any other short stretch

track in ohio...

yes ohio has a better stallions at this time

which means  nothin to me,,

and i will leave at that

[horses first]

OMG YOU BROUGHT UP BIG STABLES GO BACK AND LOOK. IF YOU CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION ON YOUR TOPIC WHY EVEN POST?

[swoodall]

ATTENTION EDUCATED HORSEMEN!

(yes I know I just significantly narrowed down my audience)

THE LEGISLATURE GIVETH,

AND THE LEGISLATURE TAKETH AWAY!

Just ask any current or former Illinois horseman/owner/breeder.

Arguing what is and what is not tax dollars is a total waste of time.

The Governor may not legally have the power to take away your welfare but the legislature can.

If the legislature has a change of heart or has the Governor in their ear that subsidy is as good as gone.

Illinois horsemen had an agreement where the state would provide the Recapture payments due to track owners from the state's general fund thereby holding the horsemen's purse account harmless.

 

Yeah, that lasted!

Remember the law is the law until it's not.

You better have good lobbyists with good connections otherwise....welc ome to our nightmare.

[horses first]

There were two years that recapture was paid and ran through the Dept of AG. When Edgar decided not to run the IHHA backed the democrat and when Ryan won he said a big fuck you to that 10m recapture payment. Horsemen, their organizations, and lobbyist had zip to fight back with especially on the thoroughbred side as their lobbyist was cozy with RLD. The racing board as well. It was all over but the crying and it has lasted more then 20 years. Hawthorne still dragging their feet on it's casino build out for slots as they want one more season of recapture payments before that first nickel goes into a slot machine.

[MR.DALRAE]

INDY HAS MORE LEGS 

OHIO 4 LEGS AND FINAL

INDY 7 I BELIEV E

AND FINAL SAME 250K

Pa sires is the Industry leader,,, they go for more money than Ohio and Indiana,,,,just look at prices PA Breds bring at auction ,,, PA is the MLB the rest is AA ball weather you like it or not

[bond]

Wolf is an incompetent idiot. Killed 1000's of seniors in nursing homes-collapsed small business--and now wants to steal money from Horsemen who actually worked for it--and ruin the lives of even more families due to his incompetence. He should be in jail for crimes against humanity
Then his sidekick Dr Rachel Levine-is tagged to be assistant secretary of health-despite him/her being about 100 pounds overweight and her best friends even worse.
PA is fucked with these  .

[TTitans1]

"and now wants to steal money from Horsemen who actually worked for it"
 

Yea, they worked hard for it! They are the fucking thieves! They got away with juicing and fucking the honest horsemen and betting public for years and years. Now that the FBI is involved, the handouts will be over. How the fuck can the government tell the people that the money is going to all these indicted trainers that they could give two shits about instead of schools, roads,covid or basically anything else? The extra purse money did one thing, allow the bigger money stables to figure out better drugs, period! They drove out all the smaller barns and many owners. They did nothing to promote the sport and neither did the tracks. The states and tracks want the racing gone and the drug trainers have given them ammo to get it through now. They had a good run but it`s over. NY won`t be far behind either. The state is broke and giving 100`s of thousands of dollars a night away to horsemen will be one of the first things Cuomo will want to look into. He is going to make it legal to buy lottery tickets and have them shipped to your door now!!! He wants it all. The time has come!