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Title: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: Zippychippy423 on October 26, 2020, 01:48:41 PM
1. Meadows
2. Monticello
3. Saratoga
4. Anywhere Maine
5. Freehold
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: LUCPARK on October 26, 2020, 02:21:17 PM
anywhere in maine ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: Calhoun on October 26, 2020, 02:30:41 PM
1. Meadows
2. Monticello
3. Saratoga
4. Anywhere Maine
5. Freehold
Why hasn't Spribgsteen bought Freehold sometime the past 45 years?
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: old guy on October 26, 2020, 02:33:13 PM
Why hasn't Spribgsteen bought Freehold sometime the past 45 years?

Too smart.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 26, 2020, 03:28:51 PM
Mohawk
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: racing123 on October 26, 2020, 04:37:35 PM
does freehold have sports betting yet?  great half mile racing in Jersey is on its way back when it does!!
Lay the 6.5 tonight with the Rams by the way...Nick Foles gonna look like Nicky Sandals out there tonight
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: NJ The best on October 26, 2020, 04:58:32 PM
Freehold is a shell of itself. Dancer, Filion would cry.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: shuffledagain on October 26, 2020, 05:06:46 PM
1. Meadows
2. Monticello
3. Saratoga
4. Anywhere Maine
5. Freehold

Evidently you haven’t been to Cal Expo
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 26, 2020, 05:30:06 PM
Evidently you haven’t been to Cal Expo



Not many people have.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: PIGLAND on October 26, 2020, 05:52:26 PM
Jonkers
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on October 26, 2020, 09:01:33 PM
Superhighfive in dayton today with an $11 winner on top had no one pick the 2nd place horse. 4 all all all all paid a whopping twenty eight cents. Do you actually cash that .28 or just pitch the ticket on the floor?
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: chief yogi on October 26, 2020, 09:13:51 PM
maine????   must be after the $8 pick 3 pools.   purses are 3x the bet handle.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: vcjt1961 on October 27, 2020, 02:49:59 PM
Yonkers by far is the most crooked race track in                             
the country and it is not even close!!!           


yonkers  Freehold  Meadows  pocono chester                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: Zippychippy423 on October 27, 2020, 09:52:54 PM
I disagree about Yonkers. Most of the drivers don’t like each other at Yonkers.  In that type of environment you don’t get much manipulation.  Meadows is like a family affair so it’s easy to predict if you know the bloodlines. Maine has small pools but the manipulation comes out of spite. Freehold believe it or not still has Mob manipulation. Saratoga half the driver colony are roomies with gambling issues...no explanation needed. Monticello ...well...that track is so depressing the horses manipulate themselves. Horses mysteriously break at that track more then any other in the country. 100% facts on every track.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: VicD on October 29, 2020, 08:51:50 AM
Mob manipulation? Really?
How much are they stealing each day? There's no money in the pools.
I'm not sure there are any of those type of "mob guys" you mention left to shake the money out.
As for Maine, how exactly do you manipulate a $1000 win pool?
As for Cal Expo, they manipulated themselves to be just about out of business.
It's easy to do when the next harness track is 850 miles away. They need every horse and every scumbag horseman to get in.
This game isn't even a shell of its former self. It's a shell of a shell.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: HayDaze on October 31, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
wow, sounds like most of you lost a few 2 dollar bets and have to blame it on something. Probably never owned or raced a horse. Never had a horse get sick, and you didnt know until the race was over. Never had a horse throw a shoe, or run with a shoe hanging off its hoof, breathing issues, tendons, ligament issues, have a piece of equipment fail. Drivers make mistakes often, sometimes bad judgement, sometimes slow reflexes reading a race, too aggressive, not aggressive enough, let the horse get lazy near the finish and get caught and on and on. Not all, but most owners would know damn well if a driver was stiffing a horse and that driver would not be driving for that owner any more. Might get away with it once or twice but it always comes out in the wash. Because a horse does not race the way "you" expected it to does not mean the "fix" was in.  If you are so sure report it, many ways to do that and still be able to hide under your rock.   
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: Superfecta on October 31, 2020, 07:07:30 PM
wow, sounds like most of you lost a few 2 dollar bets and have to blame it on something. Probably never owned or raced a horse. Never had a horse get sick, and you didnt know until the race was over. Never had a horse throw a shoe, or run with a shoe hanging off its hoof, breathing issues, tendons, ligament issues, have a piece of equipment fail. Drivers make mistakes often, sometimes bad judgement, sometimes slow reflexes reading a race, too aggressive, not aggressive enough, let the horse get lazy near the finish and get caught and on and on. Not all, but most owners would know damn well if a driver was stiffing a horse and that driver would not be driving for that owner any more. Might get away with it once or twice but it always comes out in the wash. Because a horse does not race the way "you" expected it to does not mean the "fix" was in.  If you are so sure report it, many ways to do that and still be able to hide under your rock.

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee . Most owners don't know what end the horse shits out of. They buy the bullshit their trainer tells them. As far as reporting a fixed race, who do you report to when the entire industry is corrupt.
Title: Re: Top 5 Harness tracks suspected of race manipulation
Post by: chief yogi on October 31, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
maine 1000 win pool? on rare occasions at bangor. scarborough lucky to get 300. no fixing problems there.
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