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Title: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: NJ HORSEMAN on August 29, 2021, 06:19:34 AM
WHEN THE JEW STARTED TAKING PUBLIC MONEY FROM THE GUBMINT FOR PURSES HE SHOULD LOSE THE RIGHT TO BE THE PICK AND CHOOSE JEW.

 HE IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST MR KAP

I HOPE THE COURT AND KAP SINGH BUSTS A CAP IN THE JEWS ASS

I ALWAYS KNEW JEFF THE JEW WAS A RACIST MOTHER FUCK


FELLOW OWNERS ARE ON YOUR SIDE MR SINGH. WE NEED THIS RACIST BASTARD OUT OF THE TRACK OWNER BUSINESS
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: jupiter on August 29, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
yep, lets support owners that know whats going on at the death camp, especially after the indictments, wire taps. this is the problem with our industry. keep your eyes closed, some day it will all be gone
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Joe 4 all on August 29, 2021, 10:18:20 AM
MR SINGH, YOU ARE A FINE OWNER WHO DONT NEED THIS HARRASSMENT FROM GURAL

ANYTHING WE CAN DO HERE AT THE UST & A, DONT HESITATE TO ASK
WE CANT LET THE JEWISH BULLY, PUSH FINE PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF AROUND

YOURS TRULY.
JOE

(https://i.imgur.com/pbGLj1C.jpg)
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: tumbleweed on August 29, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
WHEN THE JEW STARTED TAKING PUBLIC MONEY FROM THE GUBMINT FOR PURSES HE SHOULD LOSE THE RIGHT TO BE THE PICK AND CHOOSE JEW.

 HE IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST MR KAP  and who is the racist?

I HOPE THE COURT AND KAP SINGH BUSTS A CAP IN THE JEWS ASS

I ALWAYS KNEW JEFF THE JEW WAS A RACIST MOTHER FUCK


FELLOW OWNERS ARE ON YOUR SIDE MR SINGH. WE NEED THIS RACIST BASTARD OUT OF THE TRACK OWNER BUSINESS
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: tumbleweed on August 29, 2021, 03:35:01 PM
and who is the racist?
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 29, 2021, 03:38:54 PM
and who is the racist?





ALL of us.
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Sweet Louis on August 29, 2021, 03:58:34 PM
NJ Horseman you are 100% correct on this..I dont care either way although Gural is about as hypocritical on this as you can get but once subsidized money became involved his authority on who can and can't race changes whether he likes it or not...you don't get to pick and choose who's allowed to run for sire stakes money at your track and when the state is putting money in your pursesits gaining an competitive advantage...Allar d crooked or not hasn't been convicted which is a key issue here...BUT the fact you let other guilty guys race then say others can't race because of the same reason your case is gonna fall apart.
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: tumbleweed on August 29, 2021, 06:37:28 PM
Don't speak for me Bernie, i'm not.
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 29, 2021, 07:44:51 PM
Don't speak for me Bernie, i'm not.




Okey dokey.
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: COUNSELOR on August 30, 2021, 07:57:07 AM
I SOMETIMES READ THE VARIETY OF POST AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN IN FACT MAKE THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE.  DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY INNOCENT LAW ABIDING HORSEMAN AND OWNERS CANNOT RACE DUE TO SOMETHING SO MINOR AS UNPAID FINANCIAL ALLEGATIONS?  THE USTA / STATES REQUIRE A RULE CALLED "FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY."  TRUTHFULLY, THESE FOLKS CANNOT PAY THEIR BILLS BUT ARE TRYING TO EARN A LIVING FOR THEIR FAMILIES BUT YET MANY USE 'PEDS' TO ENHANCE THEIR HORSES PERFORMANCE AT THE COST OF THE HONEST HORSEMAN TRYING TO EARN A LIVING.

NOW I SEE THE DEFENSE THAT IT IS OK TO USE DRUGS AND /OR KNOWINGLY USE A TRAINER THAT DOES.  THIS IS ABSURD.   THERE IS A LAW THAT MANY OF YOU ARE NOT AWARE BUT CLEARLY IS PART OF THIS CASE:

"KNOWINGLY AND UNKNOWINGLY" YOU ARE GUILTY IF ASSOCIATED WITH ANYONE BREAKING THE LAW.   THE FEDERAL PRISIONS ARE FULL OF DOCTORS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS THAT PARTICIPATED IN CRIMES " KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" AND WERE FIRST TIME OFFENDERS WITHOUT A RECORD EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THEY DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME.

ANYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY"  CAN BE CONVICTED OF A FELONY AND END UP IN A  FEDERAL PRISION.  IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE RICH OR POOR.   

I BELIEVE THE SENTENCES WILL BE LIGHTER THAT EXPECTED SINCE THE FIRST INDICTMENT WAS PRESENTED AND THEN THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT EXCLUDED SEVERAL NAMES INCLUDING THOSE IN THE STANDARDBRED INDUSTRY.  THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ROLLED FIRST AND DID A PLEA DEAL WITH THE PROSECUTORS.  THAT DOES NOT SAY THEY DID NOT DO THE CRIME BUT IT SAYS THEY TOOK A PLEA AND BECAME AN INFORMANT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SAVE THEIRSELF AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS.  THE TRUTH IS THEY STILL COMMITTED THE CRIME BUT WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE.   THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OPERATES ON THIS SYSTEM-----INFORMANTS.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT THE PANDEMIC WILL SAVE SO MANY IN THIS CASE DUE TO OTHER POLITICAL ISSUES IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NY.  THE SENTENCES AND OUTCOME OF THIS CASE WILL NOT BE WHAT EVERYONE THOUGHT DUE TO THE COVID 19 DISASTER.   THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES PENDING.

THEREFORE, MR. GURAL DOES IN FACT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE AND IN FACT ANYONE THAT PARTICIPATED "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" COULD BE CHARGED AND INCLUDED IN ANY INDICTMENT.  THE ARGUMENT I DID NOT KNOW DOES NOT HOLD WATER EVEN IF THEY DID NOT KNOW.   THAT IS IRRELAVANT.  THEY PARTICIPATED AND BENEFITTED FROM THE CRIMES AND TRUTHFULLY THERE WERE VICTIMS AND THEREFORE CRIMES WERE COMMITTED AND I AM SHOCKED THAT THE PROSECUTORS DID NOT PURSUE THIS AVENUE TO TRULY GO AFTER ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS IN THESE CRIMES.

NO ONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN ANY ACTIVITY BUT HOW HYPOCRITICAL IS IT THAT ANYONE THAT DOES NOT PAY A $25 INVOICE CAN BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY TRACK BUT THEIR ARE NO COMPLAINTS WHEN SO MANY CANNOT COMPETE AGAINST THE TRAINERS THAT ROUTINELY USE PEDS.   

THE HONEST HORSEMAN COULD START A CLASS ACTION CIVIL SUIT AGAINST ALL OF THE NAMED HORSEMAN AND EVERY OWNER THAT BENEFITTED FROM THE CRIMES OF THE INDICTED AND THIS WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN FEDERAL COURT.  THIS IS THE WAY TO FIGHT THE PED EPIDEMIC.   THE COST TO FIGHT THIS WOULD LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND THE FEDS HAVE SPENT A FORTUNEE TO GET THE INDICTMENTS THIS FAR.   USE THIS INFO TO HOLD THE PARTIES REPONSIBLE!

"KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!!!
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Pacingqueen on August 30, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
Counselor do you see any further arrests? How much time for those already arrested? Seems as they are focused on thoroughbred side of it as we hear nothing about standardbreds. I thought for sure people here in Ohio and Indiana would of been next.


I SOMETIMES READ THE VARIETY OF POST AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN IN FACT MAKE THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE.  DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY INNOCENT LAW ABIDING HORSEMAN AND OWNERS CANNOT RACE DUE TO SOMETHING SO MINOR AS UNPAID FINANCIAL ALLEGATIONS?  THE USTA / STATES REQUIRE A RULE CALLED "FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY."  TRUTHFULLY, THESE FOLKS CANNOT PAY THEIR BILLS BUT ARE TRYING TO EARN A LIVING FOR THEIR FAMILIES BUT YET MANY USE 'PEDS' TO ENHANCE THEIR HORSES PERFORMANCE AT THE COST OF THE HONEST HORSEMAN TRYING TO EARN A LIVING.

NOW I SEE THE DEFENSE THAT IT IS OK TO USE DRUGS AND /OR KNOWINGLY USE A TRAINER THAT DOES.  THIS IS ABSURD.   THERE IS A LAW THAT MANY OF YOU ARE NOT AWARE BUT CLEARLY IS PART OF THIS CASE:

"KNOWINGLY AND UNKNOWINGLY" YOU ARE GUILTY IF ASSOCIATED WITH ANYONE BREAKING THE LAW.   THE FEDERAL PRISIONS ARE FULL OF DOCTORS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS THAT PARTICIPATED IN CRIMES " KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" AND WERE FIRST TIME OFFENDERS WITHOUT A RECORD EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THEY DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME.

ANYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY"  CAN BE CONVICTED OF A FELONY AND END UP IN A  FEDERAL PRISION.  IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE RICH OR POOR.   

I BELIEVE THE SENTENCES WILL BE LIGHTER THAT EXPECTED SINCE THE FIRST INDICTMENT WAS PRESENTED AND THEN THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT EXCLUDED SEVERAL NAMES INCLUDING THOSE IN THE STANDARDBRED INDUSTRY.  THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ROLLED FIRST AND DID A PLEA DEAL WITH THE PROSECUTORS.  THAT DOES NOT SAY THEY DID NOT DO THE CRIME BUT IT SAYS THEY TOOK A PLEA AND BECAME AN INFORMANT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SAVE THEIRSELF AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS.  THE TRUTH IS THEY STILL COMMITTED THE CRIME BUT WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE.   THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OPERATES ON THIS SYSTEM-----INFORMANTS.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT THE PANDEMIC WILL SAVE SO MANY IN THIS CASE DUE TO OTHER POLITICAL ISSUES IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NY.  THE SENTENCES AND OUTCOME OF THIS CASE WILL NOT BE WHAT EVERYONE THOUGHT DUE TO THE COVID 19 DISASTER.   THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES PENDING.

THEREFORE, MR. GURAL DOES IN FACT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE AND IN FACT ANYONE THAT PARTICIPATED "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" COULD BE CHARGED AND INCLUDED IN ANY INDICTMENT.  THE ARGUMENT I DID NOT KNOW DOES NOT HOLD WATER EVEN IF THEY DID NOT KNOW.   THAT IS IRRELAVANT.  THEY PARTICIPATED AND BENEFITTED FROM THE CRIMES AND TRUTHFULLY THERE WERE VICTIMS AND THEREFORE CRIMES WERE COMMITTED AND I AM SHOCKED THAT THE PROSECUTORS DID NOT PURSUE THIS AVENUE TO TRULY GO AFTER ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS IN THESE CRIMES.

NO ONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN ANY ACTIVITY BUT HOW HYPOCRITICAL IS IT THAT ANYONE THAT DOES NOT PAY A $25 INVOICE CAN BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY TRACK BUT THEIR ARE NO COMPLAINTS WHEN SO MANY CANNOT COMPETE AGAINST THE TRAINERS THAT ROUTINELY USE PEDS.   

THE HONEST HORSEMAN COULD START A CLASS ACTION CIVIL SUIT AGAINST ALL OF THE NAMED HORSEMAN AND EVERY OWNER THAT BENEFITTED FROM THE CRIMES OF THE INDICTED AND THIS WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN FEDERAL COURT.  THIS IS THE WAY TO FIGHT THE PED EPIDEMIC.   THE COST TO FIGHT THIS WOULD LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND THE FEDS HAVE SPENT A FORTUNEE TO GET THE INDICTMENTS THIS FAR.   USE THIS INFO TO HOLD THE PARTIES REPONSIBLE!

"KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!!!
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Stan durbread on September 01, 2021, 05:14:37 AM
I SOMETIMES READ THE VARIETY OF POST AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN IN FACT MAKE THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE.  DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY INNOCENT LAW ABIDING HORSEMAN AND OWNERS CANNOT RACE DUE TO SOMETHING SO MINOR AS UNPAID FINANCIAL ALLEGATIONS?  THE USTA / STATES REQUIRE A RULE CALLED "FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY."  TRUTHFULLY, THESE FOLKS CANNOT PAY THEIR BILLS BUT ARE TRYING TO EARN A LIVING FOR THEIR FAMILIES BUT YET MANY USE 'PEDS' TO ENHANCE THEIR HORSES PERFORMANCE AT THE COST OF THE HONEST HORSEMAN TRYING TO EARN A LIVING.

NOW I SEE THE DEFENSE THAT IT IS OK TO USE DRUGS AND /OR KNOWINGLY USE A TRAINER THAT DOES.  THIS IS ABSURD.   THERE IS A LAW THAT MANY OF YOU ARE NOT AWARE BUT CLEARLY IS PART OF THIS CASE:

"KNOWINGLY AND UNKNOWINGLY" YOU ARE GUILTY IF ASSOCIATED WITH ANYONE BREAKING THE LAW.   THE FEDERAL PRISIONS ARE FULL OF DOCTORS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS THAT PARTICIPATED IN CRIMES " KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" AND WERE FIRST TIME OFFENDERS WITHOUT A RECORD EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THEY DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME.

ANYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY"  CAN BE CONVICTED OF A FELONY AND END UP IN A  FEDERAL PRISION.  IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE RICH OR POOR.   

I BELIEVE THE SENTENCES WILL BE LIGHTER THAT EXPECTED SINCE THE FIRST INDICTMENT WAS PRESENTED AND THEN THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT EXCLUDED SEVERAL NAMES INCLUDING THOSE IN THE STANDARDBRED INDUSTRY.  THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ROLLED FIRST AND DID A PLEA DEAL WITH THE PROSECUTORS.  THAT DOES NOT SAY THEY DID NOT DO THE CRIME BUT IT SAYS THEY TOOK A PLEA AND BECAME AN INFORMANT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SAVE THEIRSELF AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS.  THE TRUTH IS THEY STILL COMMITTED THE CRIME BUT WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE.   THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OPERATES ON THIS SYSTEM-----INFORMANTS.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT THE PANDEMIC WILL SAVE SO MANY IN THIS CASE DUE TO OTHER POLITICAL ISSUES IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NY.  THE SENTENCES AND OUTCOME OF THIS CASE WILL NOT BE WHAT EVERYONE THOUGHT DUE TO THE COVID 19 DISASTER.   THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES PENDING.

THEREFORE, MR. GURAL DOES IN FACT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE AND IN FACT ANYONE THAT PARTICIPATED "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" COULD BE CHARGED AND INCLUDED IN ANY INDICTMENT.  THE ARGUMENT I DID NOT KNOW DOES NOT HOLD WATER EVEN IF THEY DID NOT KNOW.   THAT IS IRRELAVANT.  THEY PARTICIPATED AND BENEFITTED FROM THE CRIMES AND TRUTHFULLY THERE WERE VICTIMS AND THEREFORE CRIMES WERE COMMITTED AND I AM SHOCKED THAT THE PROSECUTORS DID NOT PURSUE THIS AVENUE TO TRULY GO AFTER ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS IN THESE CRIMES.

NO ONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN ANY ACTIVITY BUT HOW HYPOCRITICAL IS IT THAT ANYONE THAT DOES NOT PAY A $25 INVOICE CAN BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY TRACK BUT THEIR ARE NO COMPLAINTS WHEN SO MANY CANNOT COMPETE AGAINST THE TRAINERS THAT ROUTINELY USE PEDS.   

THE HONEST HORSEMAN COULD START A CLASS ACTION CIVIL SUIT AGAINST ALL OF THE NAMED HORSEMAN AND EVERY OWNER THAT BENEFITTED FROM THE CRIMES OF THE INDICTED AND THIS WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN FEDERAL COURT.  THIS IS THE WAY TO FIGHT THE



 PED EPIDEMIC.   THE COST TO FIGHT THIS WOULD LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND THE FEDS HAVE SPENT A FORTUNEE TO GET THE INDICTMENTS THIS FAR.   USE THIS INFO TO HOLD THE PARTIES REPONSIBLE!

"KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!!!




My question is how can he hold owners responsible for using Allard for winter training. When he has not been found guilty yet. But has no problem with horses trained by Steve Elliot who is on a 10 year suspension from Gurals jurisdiction
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: NJ HORSEMAN on September 01, 2021, 06:01:41 AM



My question is how can he hold owners responsible for using Allard for winter training. When he has not been found guilty yet. But has no problem with horses trained by Steve Elliot who is on a 10 year suspension from Gurals jurisdiction

REMEMBER, THE RULE STATES...

DO AS THE JEW SAYS

NOT AS THE JEW DO.


HE, NOT YOU, IS THE PRIVILEDGED ONE
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: COUNSELOR on September 02, 2021, 09:17:22 AM
REMEMBER THE LAW IS CLEAR "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY!"   THIS MEANS THAT EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED AND YOU ARE A PARTICIPANT YOU CAN IN FACT BE CHARGED AND CONVICTED.   ANY OWNER THAT "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" PARTICIPATED IN THE PED SCHEME TO DEFRAUD COULD BE CHARGED AND CONVICTED.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE PARTIES KNOW MORE OF THE END GOAL HERE THAN IS IN THE INDICTMENT OR THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT.  I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL NAMES THAT WERE LEFT OFF THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT WHICH COULD INDICATE THEY TURNED INFORMANT AND WILL TESTIFY FOR THE GOVERNMENT.  IF SO, THESE WITNESSES COULD INCRIMINATE ADDITIONAL PARTIES INCLUDING COLLATERAL PARTICIPANTS WHO MAY CLAIM THEY WERE UNAWARE OF ANY PED USES.

BUT REMEMBER "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY!"

COULD GET INTERESTING BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE COVID PANDEMIC HELPED SO MANY AS THE GOVERNMENT IS EXTREMELY INVOLVED IN SO MANY CASES AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT WERE DELAYED AND I WOULD GUESS THERE MAY BE A MAN POWER SHORTGAGE AS WELL.

TIME WILL TELL.
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Pacingqueen on September 02, 2021, 10:24:04 AM
REMEMBER THE LAW IS CLEAR "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY!"   THIS MEANS THAT EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED AND YOU ARE A PARTICIPANT YOU CAN IN FACT BE CHARGED AND CONVICTED.   ANY OWNER THAT "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY" PARTICIPATED IN THE PED SCHEME TO DEFRAUD COULD BE CHARGED AND CONVICTED.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE PARTIES KNOW MORE OF THE END GOAL HERE THAN IS IN THE INDICTMENT OR THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT.  I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL NAMES THAT WERE LEFT OFF THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT WHICH COULD INDICATE THEY TURNED INFORMANT AND WILL TESTIFY FOR THE GOVERNMENT.  IF SO, THESE WITNESSES COULD INCRIMINATE ADDITIONAL PARTIES INCLUDING COLLATERAL PARTICIPANTS WHO MAY CLAIM THEY WERE UNAWARE OF ANY PED USES.

BUT REMEMBER "KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY!"

COULD GET INTERESTING BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE COVID PANDEMIC HELPED SO MANY AS THE GOVERNMENT IS EXTREMELY INVOLVED IN SO MANY CASES AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT WERE DELAYED AND I WOULD GUESS THERE MAY BE A MAN POWER SHORTGAGE AS WELL.

TIME WILL TELL.

Counselor do you see any further arrests? How much time for those already arrested? Seems as they are focused on thoroughbred side of it as we hear nothing about standardbreds. I thought for sure people here in Ohio and Indiana would of been next.
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Fatboy on September 02, 2021, 01:17:47 PM
Counselor do you see any further arrests? How much time for those already arrested? Seems as they are focused on thoroughbred side of it as we hear nothing about standardbreds. I thought for sure people here in Ohio and Indiana would of been next.

  How would he know the answer to those questions?  You know everything about everybody, you tell us what you think. tmbz1
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: Emperor Dapple on September 02, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
  How would he know the answer to those questions?  You know everything about everybody, you tell us what you think. tmbz1

 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2

Fat , this case reminds me of all the big name indictments of the 1973 Superfecta fixing at NY harness tracks .. Many big name drivers of that era indicted… in the end all of them found not guilty // charges dropped and life went back to normal.. I realize this is about drugging , which I personally find disgusting but I wonder if in the end it’s gonna end up being more noise and not the jail time or life suspensions many are hoping for..
Title: Re: A TRIAL JEFF THE JEW MUST LOSE
Post by: COUNSELOR on September 02, 2021, 09:43:18 PM
USUALLY THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT TELLS THE STORY.  IN THIS CASE SEVERAL NAMES WERE LEFT OFF THE SUPERCEDIGN INDICTMENT AND THEREFORE THESE FOLKS MOST LIKELY WERE THE FIRST TO GIVE STATEMENTS REGARDING THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF OTHERS.   IN ESSENCE, THEY WOULD TRADE INFORMATION REGARDING THE CASE FOR THEIR OWN REDUCTION OF SENTENCE OR TO BE ELIMINATED ENTIRELY. 

PLEASE RECALL IF THEY DID PLEA OUT THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PLEAS:  1).  BINDING 2). NON-BINDING.  USUALLY, THE NON-BINDING PLEA IS THE NORM UNLESS THE ATTORNEYS HAVE SOLID NECESSARY INFORMATION TO HELP THE PROSECUTORS OBTAIN A GULITY VERDICT. 

BINDING IS THE PLEA THE THE JUDGE HAS ENDORSED OR AGREED AND NON BINDING IS A PLEA THAT THE PROSECUTOR MAY OFFER BUT THEIR ARE NO GUARANTEE THE JUDGE WILL ACCEPT THE PLEA.   IT IS POSSIBLE THE PROSECUTOR LEFT THE PARTIES OFF THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT DUE TO VALUABLE INFORMATION REGARDING OTHERS OR NEW PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS OR OTHER CRIMES.   RECALL THE FEDERAL SYSTEM IS BUILT ON WITNESSES REPORTING INFORMATION ON OTHER CRIMINALS IN ORDER TO INDICT AND CONVICT.  THAT IS HOW THEY OBTAIN A 98% CONVICTION RATE.

MOST OF THE TIME IF THE INFORMATION IS OBTAINED FROM A WITNESS THEY APPROACH THE PARTIES COUNSEL TO PLEA OUT THE CRIME .  TRUTHFULLY THE PROSECUTORS DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER OR THE FUNDING TO TRY ALL OF THE CASES.  THEY MUST OBTIN PLEAS TO SAVE MONEY AND MANPOWER.

MY GUESS AND THIS IS ONLY A GUESS WITHOUT ANY FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS COMMENT-------SEVERAL ARE SINGING LIKE CANARIES!   YOU FOLKS WOULD KNOW THE PARTIES BUT THAT WOULD ONLY BE MY GUESS.  NO FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS COMMENT.

EITHER WAY SHOULD BE INTERESTING AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE MADE A LIKELY COMMENT IN THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE NEWS IS ON THE THOROUGHBRED INDUSTRY NOT THE STANDARDBREDS.   

THERE IS ALWAYS A BIG FISH.   THE PROSECUTORS WANT THE BIG FISH AND REALLY DO NOT CARE AS MUCH ABOUT THE LITTLE GUY---WANTS THE FOLKS AT THE TOP FOR TWO REASONS:  1).  CUT THE SNAKES HEAD OFF 2). PUBLICITY TO ADVANCE CAREERS

HOPE THIS NEUTRAL COMMENTARY HELPS.
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