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Title: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: hesnifty on March 19, 2024, 04:52:24 AM
Congressman Dan Daley from Florida got an award from the USTA and said a new track in Nebraska will be opening soon and Florida will have a Harness track within two years. Is this true?? 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Jctoronto on March 19, 2024, 05:12:07 AM
There is January 2023 bill attempt by Daley to get something done...I didnt see anything further on that in his twitter feed
But, over last two weeks these tweets were there on Dan Daley X feed.

https://twitter.com/DanDaley/status/1765067468043882942?s=19

https://twitter.com/DanDaley/status/1766550451334328758?s=19

https://twitter.com/USTrotting/status/1767252961854398616?s=1
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Jctoronto on March 19, 2024, 05:50:22 AM
Officially speaking re: Fla govt., and Prob old news on HH but...Daley's HB275
Sadly, Daley's Bill died May '23

DATE   CHAMBER   ACTION
1/19/2023   House   • Filed
2/1/2023   House   • Referred to Regulatory Reform & Economic Development Subcommittee
• Referred to State Administration & Technology Appropriations Subcommittee
• Referred to Commerce Committee
• Now in Regulatory Reform & Economic Development Subcommittee
3/7/2023   House   • 1st Reading (Original Filed Version)
5/5/2023   House   • Died in Regulatory Reform & Economic Development Subcommittee

***was there something more he shared with Columbus-ites. Maybe.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Stan durbread on March 19, 2024, 06:09:42 AM
The track that is currently under construction in Nebraska is a Tbred track
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: joemomma on March 19, 2024, 04:59:07 PM
Look at Yonkers, cal ex, Vernon, Tioga,etc. 6 horse fields, just what the better needs. Another Racetrack,  no wonder the game is dead.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: old guy on March 19, 2024, 05:05:42 PM
Where can we buy Nebraska breads for the sires stakes?
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: theokodjak26 on March 19, 2024, 05:09:08 PM
Why would any entity want to spend millions on a new harness track when every trend associated with the sport is negative? No live fans of any consequence, at any track, except on a special occasion like the Hambo. Horse population seems to be eroding. Drugging still going on. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Bitter Truth on March 19, 2024, 05:18:35 PM
 Hey Old Guy, pick me up a marble rye if you find out. tmbz1
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Papillon on March 19, 2024, 05:34:51 PM
The track that is currently under construction in Nebraska is a Tbred track

They are building another Fonner Park

the current one is outdated
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: rainman2 on March 19, 2024, 05:37:19 PM
Look at Yonkers, cal ex, Vernon, Tioga,etc. 6 horse fields, just what the better needs. Another Racetrack,  no wonder the game is dead.

Cal expo has no slots, so you know why purses are low there.

Vernon has slots but not much action due to turning stone a hop, skip, and a jump away.

At least Tioga has slots and decent purse money.  Short fields make it better for owners, trainers, drivers, to make money.

Yonkers generally has full fields, fast horses and big purses.  Add to the fact that you have some trainers that are better than others with interesting medical programs.




Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: theokodjak26 on March 19, 2024, 05:41:39 PM
Monticello has slots, 5 miles away, and their purses still stink. Additionally the facility should be condemned.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: rainman2 on March 19, 2024, 05:44:31 PM
Monticello has slots, 5 miles away, and their purses still stink. Additionally the facility should be condemned.

Didn't they close the slots at Monticello, so it doesn't cannibalize their other bigger venture down the road?
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: kantseeback on March 19, 2024, 06:16:42 PM
Monticello has slots, 5 miles away, and their purses still stink. Additionally the facility should be condemned.

It's a shame what happened to Monti. I remember going there on Saturday summer nights with that open grandstand and the warm breeze, lit up water fountain still working in multicolor between races. Sunday afternoons were great with full crowds on the weekends, all the local resorts bused people in and every seat was occupied in the clubhouse. double header cards on 4th of July with fireworks after the races and John Manzi puffing on his stogie thinking up new wacky contests.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Kirby's Ace on March 19, 2024, 08:51:02 PM
Where can we buy Nebraska breads for the sires stakes?

 ngc3 breads
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: rainman2 on March 19, 2024, 09:08:05 PM
Monticello has slots, 5 miles away, and their purses still stink. Additionally the facility should be condemned.

the grandstand or the barn area?
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Brown jug on March 19, 2024, 09:20:50 PM
another added to the list
steak races
banded
breads
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Bitter Truth on March 19, 2024, 09:31:55 PM
 List of what? Words that are accepted on here or ones you think should go away? [the banded is not going away btw]
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: kantseeback on March 19, 2024, 10:01:44 PM
the grandstand or the barn area?

I think he means that casino in Kiamesha Lake.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: kantseeback on March 19, 2024, 10:02:41 PM
another added to the list
steak races
banded
breads

Don't forget Numpers.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: joemomma on March 19, 2024, 10:11:36 PM
Cal expo has no slots, so you know why purses are low there.

Vernon has slots but not much action due to turning stone a hop, skip, and a jump away.

At least Tioga has slots and decent purse money.  Short fields make it better for owners, trainers, drivers, to make money.

Yonkers generally has full fields, fast horses and big purses.  Add to the fact that you have some trainers that are better than others with interesting medical programs.

Tioga purses sink for having a full blown casino and a short meet .
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: rainman2 on March 19, 2024, 10:14:18 PM
Tioga purses sink for having a full blown casino and a short meet .

Nichols New York = BOONIES?

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!!
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: joemomma on March 19, 2024, 10:56:02 PM
Nichols New York = BOONIES?

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!!

Saturated product!!! Bottom line!!!
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on March 20, 2024, 02:28:55 AM
It's a shame what happened to Monti. I remember going there on Saturday summer nights with that open grandstand and the warm breeze, lit up water fountain still working in multicolor between races. Sunday afternoons were great with full crowds on the weekends, all the local resorts bused people in and every seat was occupied in the clubhouse. double header cards on 4th of July with fireworks after the races and John Manzi puffing on his stogie thinking up new wacky contests.

I remember watching Cam Fella in the Monticello Pace qualifier, I was like 12...very lackluster drive from Crowe got him beat by Bo Scots Blue Chip that day.  Place was packed.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: joemomma on March 20, 2024, 09:58:32 AM
I remember watching Cam Fella in the Monticello Pace qualifier, I was like 12...very lackluster drive from Crowe got him beat by Bo Scots Blue Chip that day.  Place was packed.


Cam fella  and niatross the best two horses in history because they both towed human anchors.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: old guy on March 20, 2024, 10:15:36 AM
ngc3 breads

I saw that that happened, blame voice typing. lol
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Gaagoots on March 20, 2024, 09:43:29 PM
It's a shame what happened to Monti. I remember going there on Saturday summer nights with that open grandstand and the warm breeze, lit up water fountain still working in multicolor between races. Sunday afternoons were great with full crowds on the weekends, all the local resorts bused people in and every seat was occupied in the clubhouse. double header cards on 4th of July with fireworks after the races and John Manzi puffing on his stogie thinking up new wacky contests.
tmbz1Yep Joe Mineri strutting around. Bino selling equipment driving up the throughway with all kinds of shit strapped to his car. Dell's Comet wiring the field. Beautiful colored water fountains. Zeek wining 4-6 on the card. What happened???
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: rainman2 on March 20, 2024, 10:57:49 PM
Cam fella  and niatross the best two horses in history because they both towed human anchors.

Who drove Somebeachsomewher e (SBSW)??
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: joemomma on March 20, 2024, 11:55:08 PM
Who drove Somebeachsomewher e (SBSW)??

Paul Macdonnell, drove a bunch of nice horses. He was capable.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: theokodjak26 on March 21, 2024, 12:46:59 AM
What started the demise of Monticello Raceway was in 1978 when casinos opened up in Atlantic City. For decades the Catskill region exploded with visitors during the summer months. The people packed the hotels and bungalow colonies in all the surrounding towns. The businesses in towns like Monticello were thriving. Atlantic City brought in the excitement of real gambling, great restaurants, glitzy hotels and top notch entertainment. So instead of driving 90 miles north people turned their direction to the south. Today the entire Catskill region is like a ghost town. So many businesses closed. Broadway in Monticello died. The hotels all closed up. The fine restaurants that once were hard to get reservations are all gone.The Raceway’s clubhouse dining room that used to be packed closed. Fast forward to todays generation of gamblers and they do not want anything to do with a slow, corrupt sport called harness racing.
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: Wild bull on March 21, 2024, 04:01:07 AM
Look at Yonkers, cal ex, Vernon, Tioga,etc. 6 horse fields, just what the better needs. Another Racetrack,  no wonder the game is dead.
lol better or bettor.dummy
Title: Re: NEW HARNESS TRACKS ????
Post by: harnessplop on March 21, 2024, 04:42:59 AM
Baseball and ncaa tournie and 9000 betting ootions..fuk horses
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