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Title: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on November 21, 2023, 12:43:10 AM
Can any plopper please just tell me honestly what mark ford did to SCM to make him such an angry and resentful human being? I don’t want to hear any bs answers, just please state facts as to what caused all of this hatred from SCM. Thanks, asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: shotgunner on November 21, 2023, 08:51:29 AM
SCM apparently owed someone money, so Ford didn't give SCM stalls at his training facility.
At least thats what I understand as the start of the feud.

I've also hear that SCM has always been a POS and a cunt to deal with even before his recent crusades.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Gaagoots on November 21, 2023, 09:45:24 AM
Fact: He was tossed out of Goshen by Steve Jones who incidentally he’s obsessed with as well.

 From there he went to Ford’s and his stall application was denied at the Mark Ford training center. Clean cut and simple. He’s been obsessed with Mark and Steve ever since.

I’ve known both of them for quite some time I’ve always paid my bills with them and they have always been great to deal with.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: bello on November 21, 2023, 10:20:36 AM
Gaagoots knows.

And I hear there is a poster here named Haku who knows all about his personal life.

Just sayin
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Gaagoots on November 21, 2023, 10:38:59 AM
Gaagoots knows.

And I hear there is a poster here named Haku who knows all about his personal life.

Just sayin
  tmbz1
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Harness racer on November 21, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Fact: He was tossed out of Goshen by Steve Jones who incidentally he’s obsessed with as well.

 From there he went to Ford’s and his stall application was denied at the Mark Ford training center. Clean cut and simple. He’s been obsessed with Mark and Steve ever since.

I’ve known both of them for quite some time I’ve always paid my bills with them and they have always been great to deal with.

I know nothing about Steve Jones.  But Mark is a shady as they come.  You can say he does all of these nice things.  So do a lot of people who have something to hide.  The Feds nailed him on those violations and going to cost him a ton.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Gaagoots on November 21, 2023, 12:10:23 PM
I know nothing about Steve Jones.  But Mark is a shady as they come.  You can say he does all of these nice things.  So do a lot of people who have something to hide.  The Feds nailed him on those violations and going to cost him a ton.
Please explain shady? How so?

Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: okdfool on November 21, 2023, 01:33:29 PM
So he sais he was asked to leave because of his behavior, towards others in the stables and the way he treat personnel there,  and  i dont know about you all but his behavior is worse then owing money and he's proud of this??? He's a Clown, can't believe no ones shut him up yet!
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Mazola on November 21, 2023, 02:15:24 PM
Please explain shady? How so?
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Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Gaagoots on November 21, 2023, 02:24:11 PM
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Ask the government what? Perhaps you can enlighten us with the details I await your answer.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 21, 2023, 02:49:29 PM
Ask the government what? Perhaps you can enlighten us with the details I await your answer.






Everyone on Plop already knows about Ford and the Government, the news clips and articles have been shared here before, Gaagoots.
Sometimes it seems like you're just fishing for shit about Ford, for Ford.
He does have people who can't wait to see him around, for fucking them over, with horses and money.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 21, 2023, 03:12:31 PM
For every nice thing claimed to have been done by Ford visible to many, theres 10 unscrupulous things he's done behind the backs of others, or in the shadows. How he managed to get re-elected in NJ is beyond many. Its wrong on multiple levels. But to put it mildly, Mark Ford is a slow growing cancer on an industry already riddled with tumors.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: wiseowl on November 21, 2023, 04:30:44 PM
I know Mark Ford he is ok what have you jerks done in your life except bad mouth every one if you got nothing good to say or some facts please say nothing.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Bitter Truth on November 21, 2023, 04:40:54 PM
Wiseowl, try this: I know Mark Ford. He is ok. What have you jerks done in your life, except bad mouth everyone? If you got [try have] nothing good to say, or some facts, please say nothing. 

One thing most of us have done in our lives is learn to form sentences and use at least a minimum of punctuation, dumbass.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Gaagoots on November 21, 2023, 04:46:48 PM
For every nice thing claimed to have been done by Ford visible to many, theres 10 unscrupulous things he's done behind the backs of others, or in the shadows. How he managed to get re-elected in NJ is beyond many. Its wrong on multiple levels. But to put it mildly, Mark Ford is a slow growing cancer on an industry already riddled with tumors.
You still haven’t answered my question??
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: CMJAnew on November 21, 2023, 05:40:11 PM
Not sure it falls under "unscrupulous", but setting up the Goshen Sale for personal gain at the expense of the Morrisville program certainly qualifies as Bull Shit!
My favorite line of his went something like this; 'no-one wants to drive to the country to buy horses'
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Stan durbread on November 21, 2023, 06:32:39 PM
Not sure it falls under "unscrupulous", but setting up the Goshen Sale for personal gain at the expense of the Morrisville program certainly qualifies as Bull Shit!
My favorite line of his went something like this; 'no-one wants to drive to the country to buy horses'
He took advantage of a poorly run sale. Location was terrible and the scheduling was even worse.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 21, 2023, 06:47:29 PM
XYZ,  well said Sir.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: 7minuteAbz on November 21, 2023, 07:15:17 PM
Mark has come a long way from Ronceverte.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: CMJAnew on November 21, 2023, 08:26:45 PM
He took advantage of a poorly run sale. Location was terrible and the scheduling was even worse.

I know. They aren't eggs after all.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 21, 2023, 08:44:53 PM
I know Mark Ford he is ok what have you jerks done in your life except bad mouth every one if you got nothing good to say or some facts please say nothing.

Wiseowl, I find you less and less wise and more and more idiotic. And if your not an idiot then you must be full blow woke.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 21, 2023, 08:46:45 PM
You still haven’t answered my question??

Where did you ask me a question Gaygoots?
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: wiseowl on November 21, 2023, 10:34:15 PM
Mark makes money and you jerk cry start your own sale do something besides cry.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on November 22, 2023, 01:21:23 AM
I have to say that I’m not shocked by the answers on this thread. I did hear all about SCM getting thrown out of Goshen and then his stall application getting denied by mark ford, but what I can’t be,I’ve is that SCM is that upset over something so petty. I mean so what. There are plenty of farms in the area to stable at. If someone doesn’t want you, why let that stop you? I swear if that’s all this about then I think SCM is being petty. I don’t have a dog in this fight but that is just too petty for the anger and hatred that SCM has in his body. I have to think there is something else.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Harness racer on November 22, 2023, 01:26:12 AM
Mark makes money and you jerk cry start your own sale do something besides cry.

You can make money and still be a horrible human being!  The two aren't at all related!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on November 22, 2023, 01:44:11 AM
You can make money and still be a horrible human being!  The two aren't at all related!  tmbz1
Very true but there has to be more to the story for SCM to be so angry and miserable just hearing the name mark ford or Steve Jones. Seems odd that just because SCM owed them money and they banned him from their facilities that his anger gets the best of him. I mean he truly hates life period.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Harness racer on November 22, 2023, 01:46:47 AM
Very true but there has to be more to the story for SCM to be so angry and miserable just hearing the name mark ford or Steve Jones. Seems odd that just because SCM owed them money and they banned him from their facilities that his anger gets the best of him. I mean he truly hates life period.

Not disagreeing with you about him hating life.  Ford also tried to keep anyone he could from associating or donating to "the cause" and even helped rough up old Dave after he lipped off at the BigM.   Really escalated after that.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on November 22, 2023, 01:56:18 AM
Not disagreeing with you about him hating life.  Ford also tried to keep anyone he could from associating or donating to "the cause" and even helped rough up old Dave after he lipped off at the BigM.   Really escalated after that.
I was told by a trainer who was at the big m that night that Dave Y was really shouting and provoking Ford and schnitker into that disaster. Again I don’t have a dog in this fight. I just always questioned SCM’s motives and why he waited until he got barred out of the business to turn everyone in. These guys had to be doing bad shit fir years while SCM stood by at watched. Why come out years after?
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on November 22, 2023, 02:04:46 AM
I was also told today that Edita had to distance herself from SCM or she would face termination. I just don’t understand why he burns all of the bridges. Lots of anger and frustration. It is plain wrong to wish harm or ill on anyone. That’s just not cool in my book.
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Kirby's Ace on November 22, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Sounds like "Your told" a lot!
Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 22, 2023, 10:51:35 AM
Sounds like "Your told" a lot!

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Title: Re: Honest answers please about mark ford versus SCM
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on November 22, 2023, 06:47:13 PM
I was also told today that Edita had to distance herself from SCM or she would face termination. I just don’t understand why he burns all of the bridges. Lots of anger and frustration. It is plain wrong to wish harm or ill on anyone. That’s just not cool in my book.
I WOULD GUESS THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS GOING AFTER THE CARRIAGE HORSES HE WOULD SHOW EDITA ON THE CAMERA AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS SHY AWAY FROM HIM LIKE HE WAS CREEPY OR SOMETHING. NOTHING ABOUT CARRAIGE HORSES LATELY SO HES BACK ON THE HARNESS GUYS AGAIN AND NOW EVEN WORSE, HAPPY THAT HORSES AND HORSEMEN GOT HURT IN THAT BAD SPILL.  HES A REAL SICKO AND HE KNOWS IT. HE KEEPS MESSSING WITH FARALDO AND HE'LL GET HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM. THAT GUY IS A LAWYER AND DONT PLAY WITH GUYS LIKE SCM. JUST SAYING....
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