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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2023, 07:44:52 PM »
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2023, 07:59:26 PM »
I am not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, the internet, or anywhere...but... does it mean anything that, it appears, that Taylor is not suing for the right to race. He's not suing for an injunction. It doesn't even appear that he is suing to prevent Gural from banning him. But he's suing for defamation? I believe one of the things you have to show to win on defamation is damages. Are the damages financial due to not being able to race?

Gural didn't ban Taylor because he bought EPO and gave it to his trainers. He banned Taylor because his name was on a customer list,  and because of other evidence...and because...HE CAN.

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2023, 08:17:08 PM »
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2023, 08:27:22 PM »
I am not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, the internet, or anywhere...but... does it mean anything that, it appears, that Taylor is not suing for the right to race. He's not suing for an injunction. It doesn't even appear that he is suing to prevent Gural from banning him. But he's suing for defamation? I believe one of the things you have to show to win on defamation is damages. Are the damages financial due to not being able to race?

Gural didn't ban Taylor because he bought EPO and gave it to his trainers. He banned Taylor because his name was on a customer list,  and because of other evidence...and because...HE CAN.
The banning isn’t the issue. Gural claiming the Howard bought EPO and gave it to his trainers to use is the problem. If Howard was really ordering it himself and insisting his trainers use it then why didn’t he ban all of his trainers. I’m glad to see Gural trying to do something but he gotta stick to known facts when talking to press

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2023, 09:04:50 PM »
Buying it illegally is the issue. Don't care about proving anything further

If you're illegally buying epogen, you should receieve an immediate lifetime ban

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2023, 09:05:08 PM »
If Gural just packs up shop and closes The Meadowlands, what is the status of fanduel?  Sorry not familiar with how New Jersey operates??

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2023, 09:19:34 PM »
Gural may be a dick--but hes no fan of Howard Taylor---and can ban-and has= anyone he dislikes.
So Taylor has to sue for damages--but in effect--wouldn't he be in the same boat if he wasn't on Fishmans list-and Gural just banned him for having horses with banned trainers--and not removing them?? Even if Taylors secretary/trainer purchased the EPO---Gural can just ban him for being associated with it.
If you have done something wrong--how can you sue for defamation(Damages)?so Taylor will have to prove he had no association with being on Fishmans list--that seems like a stretch.



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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2023, 09:25:39 PM »
    Gural stated that Howard Taylor bought the EPO and dispersed to his trainers to use.   Mr Taylor says that never happened and is suing him for Libel.    That’s it pure and simple.      Gural can keep anyone out of the Meadowlands that he wants to.     That’s not what the lawsuit is about
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2023, 09:44:47 PM »
Once again, I don't think many of you understand that EPO is not FDA approved for horses, therefore, a veterinarian cannot legally prescibe EPO. Secondly, it is illegal to buy it without a prescription. Howard broke the law if he purchased EPO so I am not sure how he was defamed. 

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2023, 09:55:35 PM »
    Gural stated that Howard Taylor bought the EPO and dispersed to his trainers to use.   Mr Taylor says that never happened and is suing him for Libel.    That’s it pure and simple.      Gural can keep anyone out of the Meadowlands that he wants to.     That’s not what the lawsuit is about
OK I see--but how did Taylor end up on Fishmans list buying EPO?? He must have paid for it--otherwise the FBI wouldn't have put him on that list--wasnt Gural--it was the FBI. 

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2023, 09:58:03 PM »
     Howard says he never bought EPO , that’s what the lawsuit is about.   Gural shot his big mouth off, now he has to come up with the proof that Howard Taylor bought EPO.  If not he’s guilty of Libel

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2023, 10:01:04 PM »
   There are hundreds of owners on the Fishman list.   Fishman sold alot of legal stuff in addition to all the illegal stuff

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2023, 10:17:00 PM »
IM PULLING FOR HT..

IF HE SAYS HE WAS DEFAMED ,,LET THE COURTS DECIDE NOT PLOPS
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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2023, 10:25:01 PM »
     Howard says he never bought EPO , that’s what the lawsuit is about.   Gural shot his big mouth off, now he has to come up with the proof that Howard Taylor bought EPO.  If not he’s guilty of Libel

Taylor is saying that he never gave horses epo or to his trainers to give horses epo. He didn't address the subject of being on the fed list of individuals who bought it. By banning him/ Taylor is saying gural is implying that he gave horses the epo that he bought/ without proof, thus defaming his character

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Re: Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2023, 10:28:49 PM »
   There are hundreds of owners on the Fishman list.   Fishman sold alot of legal stuff in addition to all the illegal stuff
It would be hard to believe that the Gural machine didn't verify what was actually purchased before coming out with his banishment list. You must remember that Gural is a multi billionaire with a building filled with lawyers and advisors. Yes, Howard is probably a good lawyer and probably very wealthy but there is no comparison between what Gural has at his disposal and what Howard can do. 
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