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Title: pylon violations
Post by: Brown jug on April 06, 2023, 07:30:50 PM
jmac  does it again at mohawk in the first
its not the first time either for him
i could see it in the last 1/4 when you have a horse searching for room
but he does it coming to the 1/4 when there is no reason to be down that low
can someone please explain, i have never driven a horse so cant really comment but it seems very odd
how the hell do you bet these things when canadas leading driver  cant get a horse through the first turn without going cleanly inside 2 pylons
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: PucksnHorses on April 06, 2023, 07:46:19 PM
Those drivers at that track are the worst. McClure has no strength, he almost loses control of one of his horses every night. The rest of them just play bumper cars all night and just take turns winning.
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: gogasgoboom on April 06, 2023, 07:47:48 PM
In 2008 Western Fair had one go inside umpteen pylons, go completely to the safety lane off the last turn and return to the track in the stretch and finish ahead of the field. They left him up too. No way that horse ran a mile.
https://m.standardbredcanada.ca/news/1-8-09/appeal-date-for-western-fair-race-set.html
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: Brown jug on April 06, 2023, 08:00:44 PM
thanks pucks, i mean i agree, do they not have the strength to simply control a horse, there is no excuse for what happened and people who legit had the winner got screwed , and what does jmac get a few hundred dollar fine, make the penalty significant and maybe it wont happen, of course if you want to stiff( i mean not win) a horse without it looking like a stiff i guess that is a guaranteed way
gogas, i had never seen that replay, that was disgusting
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: WildWizard on April 06, 2023, 08:18:52 PM
As far as controlling their horse, make the boys pull their grips up about a foot and a half and they could actually use some strength.
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: old guy on April 06, 2023, 08:45:00 PM
As far as controlling their horse, make the boys pull their grips up about a foot and a half and they could actually use some strength.
USTA questionnaire for reference on new driver applicants asks does applicant have a horse under control?  Up to 90% of todays drivers don’t have control.
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on April 07, 2023, 09:00:06 AM
Race 1 – Inquiry – Reviewed pylons on #8 P C Livingadream (James Macdonald) past the quarter, finished 1st. The front tower and pan video shows that #8 races inside two consecutive pylons. #8 is lapped at the wire by #6 Wolinak (Trevor Henry). As a result, #8 finished 1st placed 2nd for a pylon violation. No penalty to Macdonald as the horse is visibly bearing in on the turn.
Title: Re: pylon violations
Post by: Brown jug on April 07, 2023, 09:10:36 AM
thats gobble speak by agco
is it the drivers fault the horse was bearing in at that point ??
means nothing to 99% of people who wager
how does that appease the poor guy who had #8 to win and then gets blindsided by some stupid issue that happened in the first turn and had no impact on the horse winning the race
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