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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2023, 01:17:34 AM »
It’s private property, Racing at the meadowlands. It’s not their rights. It’s a privilege given to them by Mr. Jeff corral. Anyone could be asked batteries they’re up to the owners of the BIGm

And injunction is ludicrous, will never happen And will never succeed
STFU you two foot pile of shit

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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2023, 12:55:16 PM »
It’s private property, Racing at the meadowlands. It’s not their rights. It’s a privilege given to them by Mr. Jeff corral. Anyone could be asked batteries they’re up to the owners of the BIGm

And injunction is ludicrous, will never happen And will never succeed

Not true! There was an owner in 2012 or 2014 the NJRC was not going to reinstate their license and they had multiple horses racing in stakes on a particular evening.  They party's law firm had a signed court injunction to shut down the meadowlands if prohibited, and Gural advised the commission to clear it up immediately. They did, the horses raced without further consequences.
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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2023, 01:23:33 PM »
Not true! There was an owner in 2012 or 2014 the NJRC was not going to reinstate their license and they had multiple horses racing in stakes on a particular evening.  They party's law firm had a signed court injunction to shut down the meadowlands if prohibited, and Gural advised the commission to clear it up immediately. They did, the horses raced without further consequences.

If I'm remembering correctly, that was due to stakes payments already previously made???

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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2023, 02:11:48 PM »
Not true! There was an owner in 2012 or 2014 the NJRC was not going to reinstate their license and they had multiple horses racing in stakes on a particular evening.  They party's law firm had a signed court injunction to shut down the meadowlands if prohibited, and Gural advised the commission to clear it up immediately. They did, the horses raced without further consequences.

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Not sure where you got this information but no court is going to shut down a private business because a state agency wouldn’t license someone

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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2023, 02:12:52 PM »
Not true! There was an owner in 2012 or 2014 the NJRC was not going to reinstate their license and they had multiple horses racing in stakes on a particular evening.  They party's law firm had a signed court injunction to shut down the meadowlands if prohibited, and Gural advised the commission to clear it up immediately. They did, the horses raced without further consequences.
YOU ARE CORRECT BECAUSE STAKE PAYMENTS WERE MADE. SO TODAY WHAT THE TRACK OWNERS DO IS EITHER REFUND THE STAKES PAYMENTS AND REMOVED THE HORSES FROM THEIR RACE, OR ALLOW THE HORSES TO RACE ONLY IN STAKES RACES. THEY STILL CAN USE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHT TO NOT ACCEPT THEIR ENTIRES AND KEEP THEM OUT.
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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2023, 02:14:22 PM »
Not true! There was an owner in 2012 or 2014 the NJRC was not going to reinstate their license and they had multiple horses racing in stakes on a particular evening.  They party's law firm had a signed court injunction to shut down the meadowlands if prohibited, and Gural advised the commission to clear it up immediately. They did, the horses raced without further consequences.

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Not sure where you got this information but no court is going to shut down a private business because a state agency wouldn’t license someone

Stakes races that are funded by the state and paid into by the owners, racing on a state sanctioned track licensed by the state, governed by a state racing commission. You SAN DURBREAD would be incorrect!
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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2023, 02:17:01 PM »
Stakes races that are funded by the state and paid into by the owners, racing on a state sanctioned track licensed by the state, governed by a state racing commission. You SAN DURBREAD would be incorrect!
THEY WILL ALLOW THEM TO RACE IN STAKES RACES ONLY AND NO OVERNIGHTS. ALSO THEY CAN AND WILL STILL BAR THE OWNER FROM THE TRACK LIKE TIMMY CAREY DID TO LUCPARK LAST YEAR AT HAWTHORNE.
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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2023, 02:17:17 PM »
I’m f the state racing commission will not give you a license it don’t matter how much you paid to be in the race. Ask Adam Victor

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Re: A NEW ERA AT BIGM, LOTS OF BIG NAMES BANNED STARTING DEC 1
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2023, 11:35:38 PM »
Gural doesn't control the NJRC and the NJRC doesn't control Gural. Regardless, personally, I'd bet a lot of money on Gural if this turns into a fight. People are going to be very surprised if they try and litigate with Gural. He's a businessman, not a politician, elected official, or joker. Years ago it was very, very different. Usually you had a big name, successful, well-financed trainer. The NJSEA, the State, and the NJRC would hire some hack lawyer or firm, and the horseman would hire a killer. Now, today, let a trainer, or even an owner, even Howard Taylor, hire a killer...and Gural will come with a bigger killer! That's how Gural rolls.

 

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