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« Reply #105 on: March 01, 2022, 08:35:17 AM »
SILLY?  I THINK NOT.  SERIOUSLY, THIS IS AMERICA.  HOW MANY TIMES I SAW THAT SO AND SO HAD A POSITIVE TEST AND CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF A RACE AND A BETTOR MAY HAVE LOST A LARGE SUPER HIGH 5 OT A LARGE TRIFECTA.  MAYBE THE TRACK LOST MONEY OR WORSE ----CREDIBILITY.

EVERYONE NAMED IN THIS CASE COULD BE BROUGHT TO THEIR KNEES IN CIVIL COURT.   EVERY ONE.  LITIGATION HAPPENS EVERYDAY IN BUSINESS---EVERY DAY.   MAYBE HEARSAY TO YOU BUT FACTS TO THE EDUCATED BUSINESS MAN.  TODAY LITIGATION IS A WAY TO PROFIT.

IT COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DEFEND A CASE AND EVEN IF YOU WIN YOU LOSE.   WOULD YOU SETTLE A CASE THAT IS GOING TO COST YOU $400,000 TO DEFEND FOR $200,000 JUST TO GET RID OF THE LEGAL FEES?????   TRUTHFULLY, HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE MANY TIMES OVER.   MANY CLIENTS ARE ADVISED TO SETTLE AND PAY A HEALTHY SETTLEMENT TO CUT LEGAL FEES AND ELIMINATE THE RISK OF A LOSS.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE PARTICIPANTS WHO WERE INDICTED COULD IN FACT BE NAMED IN A CIVIL CASE OR A CLASS ACTION CASE AND BE BROUGHT TO THEIR KNEES.  THERE ARE MANY "AMBULANCE CHASERS' THAT WOULD TAKE THIS CASE IN ONE MINUTE.

I COULD CARE LESS WHAT CLASS OF CASE IT IS .   THINK ABOUT A SLIP AND FALL CASE----DO YOU WANT TO FIGHT IT AND SPEND $250,000 IN NEW YORK OR PAY $100,000 TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.

THIS IS AMERICA---EVERYONE SUES EVERYONE AND IT IS A WAY OF BUSINESS.  THIS IS NO DIFFERENT!!

VICTIMS ARE EVERYWHERE INCLUDING THE SPOUSES!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

Just more silly. If what you esouse was so easy & obvious it would have happened many times over for many years by now. Give up with your dramatics on this site & go write a fantasy novel.

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« Reply #106 on: March 01, 2022, 12:01:24 PM »
Just more silly. If what you esouse was so easy & obvious it would have happened many times over for many years by now. Give up with your dramatics on this site & go write a fantasy novel.
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« Reply #107 on: March 01, 2022, 10:39:14 PM »
JUST AS A SIDENOTE, THERE ARE SEVERAL VERY POWERFUL, WEALTHY OWNERS THAT MADE THEIR MONEY THAT THEY USE IN THIS BUSINESS FROM WINNING OR SETTLING LAWSUITS!!!!!

MIGHT BE FUNNY TO SOME BUT HAPPENS EVERY DAY!!

IF THE INDICTED WORKED A PLEA DEAL--THAT MEANS NOTHING IN THE LEGAL WORLD---I MEAN NOTHING.   CIVIL IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL AS WELL AS THE STATES.   EACH AND EVERY STATE THAT IS TRULY A VICTIM CAN BRING CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST EVERYONE NAMED IN THE ORIGINAL INDICTMENT WHETHER THEY WERE A FEDERAL WITNESS OR NOT. 

THE STATES AND FEDERAL ARE TWO DIFFERENT ANIMALS AND TRUTHFULLY THE SENTENCES COULD BE CONCURRENT OR STACKED DEPENDING ON THE PROSECUTOR AND THEIR GOALS WITH THE CASE.

PEOPLE HAVE NOT DONE IT PRIOR AS THEY DID NOT CARE.  I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS IN THIS CASE DO CARE AND THERE IS MORE TO COME.

WE SHALL SEE!!!!

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« Reply #108 on: March 02, 2022, 07:03:55 AM »
This would be an ideal opportunity for the State of New York to levy criminal charges against a few. Considering the well orchestrated attack on racing and it's funding currently happening in the Legislature and other groups.   

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« Reply #109 on: March 02, 2022, 10:54:17 AM »
I AGREE 100% WITH YOU!!  CHANGES TO THIS INDUSTRY HAVE AND ARE OCCURRING VERY QUICKLY.   YOU MAY NOT SEE IT BUT IT IS VERY RAPID.   SOMETIMES FOLKS ARE BLINDED BY HOPIUM.

LOOK AT THE RECENT COMBATIVE COMMENTS FROM ME WILLIAMS AND MR. GURAL ON THE USTA WEBSITE.  SEVERAL YEARS BACK THESE FOLKS WERE WORKING TOGETHER TO SAVE THE MEADOWLANDS AND NOW---FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE INVOLVED---PRIVATE DECISIONS ON WHO RACES AND WHO DOES NOT---THE DENOUCING PUBLICLY OF THE USTA---DECOUPLING----STATES NOW REDIRECTING HORSE FUNDING TO OTHER PROGRAMS AS IS OCCURRING IN PENNSYLVANIA---EVEN OHIO AND THE DEMISE OF SCIOTA.  TRULY, EVERYONE SHOULD SEE THIS AND BE PREPARED.

YEARS AGO, THE USTA MAD DECISIONS ON WHO COULD AND WHO COULD NOT RACE----NOW THE STATE ARE USING THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES TO DETERMINE WHO CAN RACE---FURTHER, MR. GURAL NOW OWNS SEVERAL TRACKS  (WITH THE HELP OF STATES AND HORSEMAN)  BUT DOES IN FACT HAVE THE SOLE AUTHORITY OF EXCLUSION!!  YES, MR. GURAL CAN LEGALLY EXCLUDE ANYONE FOR ANY REASON AND LET ANYONE RACE THAT HE CHOSES TO DO SO.   THERE IS NO CASE IN ANY COURT THAT WILL CHANGE MR. GURALS RIGHTS IN THAT REGARD.

THIS INDUSTRY FAILED MISERABLY WHEN IT HANDED OUT MILLIONS TO CERTAIN STABLES AND FAILED TO REINVEST IN THEIR PRODUCT AND PROTECTING THEIR PRODUCT.  EVERYONE HAD THE HAND OUT TO GRAB ALL THAT THEY COULD WITHOUT REALIZING THAT FUNDING AND MANAGMENT WAS REQUIRED IN THE INDUSTRY TO PROMOTE AND PROTECT RACES AND TO EDUCATE AND GROW THE BETTING PUBLIC.  WHO RUNS A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR ENTITY AND LETS 100% OF THE REVENUE PASS THRU TO END USERS AS THIS INDUSTRY HAS????  NO ONE.  BUSINESS SCHOOL 101!!!!! FOOLS WERE IN CHARGE AND DIRECTED THE CASH FLOW TO LINE THEIR OWN POCKETS AND NOW THE INDUSTRY IS IN TROUBLE.

WHO IS THE HIGHEST PAID PERSON IN THE NFL?   GUESS?  THE PLAYERS?  THE TEAM OWNERS?  OR, THEIR LEADER----MR. GOODELL?   THINK ABOUT IT---NO LEADERSHIP ---THE STATE OF RACING IS WANDERING AIMLESSLY THRU TIME WITHOUT LEADERSHIP!!!!  THERE IS ZERO LEADERSHIP!!

THE VARIOUS STATES AND ASSOCIATIONS DO NOT COORDINATE AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER DUE TO LACK OF LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP---WE HAVE MANY SMALL GROUPS WITHOUT AUTHORITY OR CLOUT!!  JUST PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN INSTEAD OF THE ENTIRE SPORT!!!

THE INDUSTRY IS SO CHANGED OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS.  THE COUNTRY HAS SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT WILL NOT LET CATTLE, SHEEP AND CHICKENS TO BE PROCESSED LET ALONE HORSE BEING ABUSED BY CERTAIN GROUPS USING ILLEGAL DRUGS!!!  THE POLITICAL FORCES NOW HAVE SUPPORT TO DECOUPLE THE INDUSTRY AND REDIRECT THE REVENUE TO OTHER SPECIAL NEEDS GROUPS!!!!

I HOPE THIS HELPS SOME UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT ALL OF RACING FACES!!  I CAN WRITE A BOOK ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED V WHAT SHOULD OF HAPPENED BUT WE ALL KNOW HISTORY IS HISTORY AND WE CANNOT CHANGE IT!!!  WE CAN ONLY INFLUENCE THE FUTURE AND QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE NOW IN THE 10TH ROUND OF A HEAVY WEIGHT FIGHT AND WE HAVE NOW LOST THE FIRST 10 ROUNDS AND TRUTHFULLY, ONLY A KNOCKOUT CAN SAVE THE SPORT AS WE KNOW IT AND WHO WILL DELIVER THE KNOCKOUT PUNCH THAT IS REQUIRED FROM SUCH A FRAGMENTED INDUSTRY WITHOUT LEADERSHIP??????

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« Reply #110 on: March 02, 2022, 10:58:47 AM »
So True

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« Reply #111 on: March 02, 2022, 12:50:16 PM »
I AGREE 100% WITH YOU!!  CHANGES TO THIS INDUSTRY HAVE AND ARE OCCURRING VERY QUICKLY.   YOU MAY NOT SEE IT BUT IT IS VERY RAPID.   SOMETIMES FOLKS ARE BLINDED BY HOPIUM.

LOOK AT THE RECENT COMBATIVE COMMENTS FROM ME WILLIAMS AND MR. GURAL ON THE USTA WEBSITE.  SEVERAL YEARS BACK THESE FOLKS WERE WORKING TOGETHER TO SAVE THE MEADOWLANDS AND NOW---FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE INVOLVED---PRIVATE DECISIONS ON WHO RACES AND WHO DOES NOT---THE DENOUCING PUBLICLY OF THE USTA---DECOUPLING----STATES NOW REDIRECTING HORSE FUNDING TO OTHER PROGRAMS AS IS OCCURRING IN PENNSYLVANIA---EVEN OHIO AND THE DEMISE OF SCIOTA.  TRULY, EVERYONE SHOULD SEE THIS AND BE PREPARED.

YEARS AGO, THE USTA MAD DECISIONS ON WHO COULD AND WHO COULD NOT RACE----NOW THE STATE ARE USING THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES TO DETERMINE WHO CAN RACE---FURTHER, MR. GURAL NOW OWNS SEVERAL TRACKS  (WITH THE HELP OF STATES AND HORSEMAN)  BUT DOES IN FACT HAVE THE SOLE AUTHORITY OF EXCLUSION!!  YES, MR. GURAL CAN LEGALLY EXCLUDE ANYONE FOR ANY REASON AND LET ANYONE RACE THAT HE CHOSES TO DO SO.   THERE IS NO CASE IN ANY COURT THAT WILL CHANGE MR. GURALS RIGHTS IN THAT REGARD.

THIS INDUSTRY FAILED MISERABLY WHEN IT HANDED OUT MILLIONS TO CERTAIN STABLES AND FAILED TO REINVEST IN THEIR PRODUCT AND PROTECTING THEIR PRODUCT.  EVERYONE HAD THE HAND OUT TO GRAB ALL THAT THEY COULD WITHOUT REALIZING THAT FUNDING AND MANAGMENT WAS REQUIRED IN THE INDUSTRY TO PROMOTE AND PROTECT RACES AND TO EDUCATE AND GROW THE BETTING PUBLIC.  WHO RUNS A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR ENTITY AND LETS 100% OF THE REVENUE PASS THRU TO END USERS AS THIS INDUSTRY HAS????  NO ONE.  BUSINESS SCHOOL 101!!!!! FOOLS WERE IN CHARGE AND DIRECTED THE CASH FLOW TO LINE THEIR OWN POCKETS AND NOW THE INDUSTRY IS IN TROUBLE.

WHO IS THE HIGHEST PAID PERSON IN THE NFL?   GUESS?  THE PLAYERS?  THE TEAM OWNERS?  OR, THEIR LEADER----MR. GOODELL?   THINK ABOUT IT---NO LEADERSHIP ---THE STATE OF RACING IS WANDERING AIMLESSLY THRU TIME WITHOUT LEADERSHIP!!!!  THERE IS ZERO LEADERSHIP!!

THE VARIOUS STATES AND ASSOCIATIONS DO NOT COORDINATE AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER DUE TO LACK OF LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP---WE HAVE MANY SMALL GROUPS WITHOUT AUTHORITY OR CLOUT!!  JUST PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN INSTEAD OF THE ENTIRE SPORT!!!

THE INDUSTRY IS SO CHANGED OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS.  THE COUNTRY HAS SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT WILL NOT LET CATTLE, SHEEP AND CHICKENS TO BE PROCESSED LET ALONE HORSE BEING ABUSED BY CERTAIN GROUPS USING ILLEGAL DRUGS!!!  THE POLITICAL FORCES NOW HAVE SUPPORT TO DECOUPLE THE INDUSTRY AND REDIRECT THE REVENUE TO OTHER SPECIAL NEEDS GROUPS!!!!

I HOPE THIS HELPS SOME UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT ALL OF RACING FACES!!  I can write a bookON WHAT HAS HAPPENED V WHAT SHOULD OF HAPPENED BUT WE ALL KNOW HISTORY IS HISTORY AND WE CANNOT CHANGE IT!!!  WE CAN ONLY INFLUENCE THE FUTURE AND QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE NOW IN THE 10TH ROUND OF A HEAVY WEIGHT FIGHT AND WE HAVE NOW LOST THE FIRST 10 ROUNDS AND TRUTHFULLY, ONLY A KNOCKOUT CAN SAVE THE SPORT AS WE KNOW IT AND WHO WILL DELIVER THE KNOCKOUT PUNCH THAT IS REQUIRED FROM SUCH A FRAGMENTED INDUSTRY WITHOUT LEADERSHIP??????

Please go write that book as I suggested. With all that knowledge & all the answers you possess I would think you have better things to do than writing to the 20 people that read this forum. This industry has been around for decades & will be here long after you are gone. (even not knowing your age).

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« Reply #112 on: March 02, 2022, 10:40:21 PM »
SURVIVAL IS A MECHANISN THAT ALLOWS FOR DENIAL!!!!  SO MANY ARE I COMPLETE DENIAL AS THE WORLD CHANGES.   

WHERE WAS AMAZON TEN YEARS AGO?   WHAT ABOUT BITCOIN AT .06 CENTS /UNIT IN 2012!! WHAT AOUT ELECTRIC CARS ---NOW GM EVEN SAY IT WILL BE 100% ELECTRIC BEFORE 2035!! TESLA FORCED OTHERS TO CHANGE.   LOOK AT THE NORTH POLE.  WHERE DO THE POLAR BEARS FEED?  CHANGE, YOUNG MAN.  IF YOU DO NOT SEE IT YOU ARE BLIND.

HARNESS RACING MAY SURVIVE BUT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AS IT WAS WITH STANLEY DANCER, BILLY HAUGHTON AND DELVIN MILLER!!!   WHAT ABOUT THE CROWDS?  THE HUGE RACES --THE JUG RACES AND CROWDS!! LEXINGTON!!!  25,000 FOALS PER YEAR VS. 5,000! 

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT SO MANY WOULD BE INDICTED AND SENT TO PRISON FOR DOPING?   THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.   NOT EVER CLOSE.

MR. WILLIAMS AND MR. GURAL SLUGGING OUT AT EACH OTHER!!!   BITCOIN AT $60,000!!! 

SIT DOWN AND BE STUBBORN AND STATE THERE IS NOT CLIMATE CHANGE -----JUST LIKE YOU SAY THE SPORT WILL BE AROUND LONG AFTER I AM GONE!!!  TRUTHFULLY, THE DINOSAURS SAID THE SAME THING!!

I FIND MYSELF RUNNING AWAY EVERY NIGHT FROM THE PREHISTORIC ANIMALS HERE IN CALIFORNIA IN THE LA BREA TAR PITS!!!

NO ONE CAN STOP CHANGE!!  NO ONE!!  THE WORLD HAS CHANGED FASTER AND MORE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THAN IN THE LAST 100!!!!


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« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2022, 08:38:46 AM »
Supposed to be sentenced today .. Facing up to 3 years plus fines ..
Seems too little considering all the poor abused horses and cheating the betting public , horseman and tracks.. Thoughts ?

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« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2022, 08:50:20 AM »
THIS INDIVIDUAL RECENTLY CHANGED HIS PLEA FROM NOT GUILTY TO GUILTY AND THEREFORE THE PROSECUTORS WILL REQUEST A LOWER SENTENCE THAN THE MAX DUE TO HIS COOPERATION THAT I AM SURE INCLUDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAY OF REQUIRED TO FURTHER CONVICT OR TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL INDICTMENTS AS NECESSARY.

THEREFORE, IF 3 YEARS WAS HIS MAX SENTENCE I WOULD EXPECT 21 MONTHS AND HE WOULD SERVE 18.  IT IS POSSIBLE THE JUDGE VALUES HIS COOPERATION EVEN MORE---THEN, THE JUDGE COULD MAKE IT LOWER OR HIGHER---IF MORE THAN TWO DEVIATES THEN THE JUDGE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO WRITE A MEMO ON WHY HE DEVIATED FROM THE SENTENCING GUIDELINES.  WITH 1 DEVIATION THERE IS NO MEMO REQUIRED WHICH ENABLES JUDGES TO USE THEIR DISCRETION ON SENTENCING.

THOSE WHO COOPERATE FIRST TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ARE REMOVED FROM THE SUPERSEDEAS AND NOT EVEN PURSUED IN THE INDICTMENT AS NOTED IN THIS CASE.  THOSE MAY NEVER RACE LEGALLY AGAIN BUT SOME TRACKS MAY ACCEPT THEM TO RACE AS IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO ACCEPT OR DENY ENTRIES WITH OR WITHOUT A LICENSE.

IN THIS CASE SEVERAL ROLLED EARLY AND THEIR NAMES ARE NEVER MENTIONED ANYWHERE BUT THEY STILL COMMITTED THE CRIMES BUT WERE NOT PROSECUTED!!

QUESTION, IN YOUR OPINION SHOULD THESE FOLKS BE PERMITTED TO RACE ?  IN ESSENCE THEY DID EXACTLY THE SAME AS OTHERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE INCARCERATED---BUT, THEY WERE NOT PROSECUTED DUE TO THEIR COOPERATION.   TRUTHFULLY, THERE IS NO RIGHT AND NO WRONG.   JUST OPINION.

FURTHER, THESE FOLKS WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONTINUE TO BE AN INFORMANT AS PART OF THEIR PLEA DEAL THAT IS MOST LIKELY SEALED---THEREFORE, ANYONE NEAR AND AROUND WILL BE UNDER THE MICROSCOPE AS THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO REPORT ANY WRONG DOING.

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« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2022, 08:59:19 AM »


QUESTION, IN YOUR OPINION SHOULD THESE FOLKS BE PERMITTED TO RACE ?  IN ESSENCE THEY DID EXACTLY THE SAME AS OTHERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE INCARCERATED---BUT, THEY WERE NOT PROSECUTED DUE TO THEIR COOPERATION.   TRUTHFULLY, THERE IS NO RIGHT AND NO WRONG.   JUST OPINION.




No I don’t believe he or anyone else found guilty or anyone who
admitted to using PED’s ( even if not prosecuted) should ever be licensed to race again.. Unfortunately these guys including Mr Oakes have family members and other beards they can hide behind.. I don’t know the answer to that unfortunately..
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Re: Doping Vet.Fishman GUILTY
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2022, 09:09:03 AM »
 It's sucks to be him but I heard there are actually some parts of being in prison.  91.jzail

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« Reply #117 on: March 03, 2022, 09:17:04 AM »
It's sucks to be him but I heard there are actually some parts of being in prison.  91.jzail

3 meals a day, access to a library, free healthcare, watching sports with the boys without ur wife nagging and if you enjoy showering with a bunch of other dudes, I guess one can see the positives..  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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« Reply #118 on: March 03, 2022, 09:40:11 AM »
The counselor  is a fucking clown 73cv.2

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« Reply #119 on: March 03, 2022, 09:50:18 AM »
SURVIVAL IS A MECHANISN THAT ALLOWS FOR DENIAL!!!!  SO MANY ARE I COMPLETE DENIAL AS THE WORLD CHANGES.   

WHERE WAS AMAZON TEN YEARS AGO?   WHAT ABOUT BITCOIN AT .06 CENTS /UNIT IN 2012!! WHAT AOUT ELECTRIC CARS ---NOW GM EVEN SAY IT WILL BE 100% ELECTRIC BEFORE 2035!! TESLA FORCED OTHERS TO CHANGE.   LOOK AT THE NORTH POLE.  WHERE DO THE POLAR BEARS FEED?  CHANGE, YOUNG MAN.  IF YOU DO NOT SEE IT YOU ARE BLIND.

HARNESS RACING MAY SURVIVE BUT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AS IT WAS WITH STANLEY DANCER, BILLY HAUGHTON AND DELVIN MILLER!!!   WHAT ABOUT THE CROWDS?  THE HUGE RACES --THE JUG RACES AND CROWDS!! LEXINGTON!!!  25,000 FOALS PER YEAR VS. 5,000! 

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT SO MANY WOULD BE INDICTED AND SENT TO PRISON FOR DOPING?   THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.   NOT EVER CLOSE.

MR. WILLIAMS AND MR. GURAL SLUGGING OUT AT EACH OTHER!!!   BITCOIN AT $60,000!!! 

SIT DOWN AND BE STUBBORN AND STATE THERE IS NOT CLIMATE CHANGE -----JUST LIKE YOU SAY THE SPORT WILL BE AROUND LONG AFTER I AM GONE!!!  TRUTHFULLY, THE DINOSAURS SAID THE SAME THING!!

I FIND MYSELF RUNNING AWAY EVERY NIGHT FROM THE PREHISTORIC ANIMALS HERE IN CALIFORNIA IN THE LA BREA TAR PITS!!!

NO ONE CAN STOP CHANGE!!  NO ONE!!  THE WORLD HAS CHANGED FASTER AND MORE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THAN IN THE LAST 100!!!!

WOW I did not think you would take me serious when I mentioned for you to go write a fiction novel. I am flattered that you are taking my suggestion to heart.

 

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