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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: HomewardBound on January 18, 2021, 11:27:18 PM
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Who is the leader? Plano beckwith wrenn wallis what a slew of convicts.
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Bet a race last week and the blind judges keep a horse up who off the racetrack. Completely OFF. Tonight Hennessey goes inside to pylons and they toss him . I don't know who the supposed judges are but they have no business being up there.
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I don't know about last week but the horse you are referring to tonight violated the "pylon rule" and should have been placed last not 2nd.
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Who is the leader? Plano beckwith wrenn wallis what a slew of convicts.
The USTA is against federal regulation, and states allow these four criminals licenses. Just one of many reasons, why harness racing needs to be shut down.
Sincerely, Silent One
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good point
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Gabe ruined the track
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WRENN AND WALLIS HAVE BEEN DOING EACH OTHER FAVORS FOR DECADES. THEY TAG TEAMED HAZEL PARK. GIVE AND GO, PROVIDE THE OTHER HOLES
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Mar-a-Lago Downs.
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Unplayable track. Way too many questionable characters involved. The mob pulled in hoods from all over north america to meet at Appalachia. The harness industry calls its hoods to meet at pompano.
There could be carryovers everynight and I'd have a tough time believing some of the characters there didn't have their hands in the till before the public got a shot at a portion of that handle.
Some call it great racing; I say its bad betting but if it floats ur boat have at it.
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$45k non carryover pic 4 pools with 12% takeout.
$1.2 Mil handle
non-jackpot pick6
Lots to like there.
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$45k non carryover pic 4 pools with 12% takeout.
$1.2 Mil handle
non-jackpot pick6
Lots to like there.
agree
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I watched Peter Wrenn stiff 3 horses from the same stable until they were down several classes then he claimed one of the horses and Gordon Norris claimed the other one. Needless to say they both made huge improvement.
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Let's not forget Tricky Mickey and his brother in-law Tom Harmer
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Gabe ruined the track
he sure did. hasnt figured out English yet.
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$45k non carryover pic 4 pools with 12% takeout.
$1.2 Mil handle
non-jackpot pick6
Lots to like there.
Race 11 tonight, $121,771 Hi 5 carryover has a mandatory payout.
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WRENN AND WALLIS HAVE BEEN DOING EACH OTHER FAVORS FOR DECADES. THEY TAG TEAMED HAZEL PARK. GIVE AND GO, PROVIDE THE OTHER HOLES
They and Hennessey have had a deal for more than20 years at Pompano.........g et to the one leading by the wire..1st time around.....they get an easy pass....but must keep on driving. Never have to discuss anything before a race. Wallis is generally betting on himself...at Pompano.......... ......but with Hennessy and Wrenn......they love to play little games...with the bettors money
Hennessy is very tight with several trainers....and the games are on
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It's amazing how much info you people have when you are really just guessing at things with no first hand knowledge. According to you folks most horseman should be millionaires with all the money they seem to make form betting. Makes me laugh because you actually know nothing!
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It's amazing how much info you people have when you are really just guessing at things with no first hand knowledge. According to you folks most horseman should be millionaires with all the money they seem to make form betting. Makes me laugh because you actually know nothing!
Rick plano, peter wrenn and kevin wallis have all been involved with documented race fixing, that is first hand indisputable information. Mark beckwith has been asked to leave jurisdictions in at least maryland, new york, and new jersey for issues in races he has been involved with, again first hand knowledge. I cannot speak for their current cash on hand, but look at their gear, their trucks, the trailers, its evident they arent hurting. Your defense us laughable.
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I watched Peter Wrenn stiff 3 horses from the same stable until they were down several classes then he claimed one of the horses and Gordon Norris claimed the other one. Needless to say they both made huge improvement.
How many years ago that been
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Rick plano, peter wrenn and kevin wallis have all been involved with documented race fixing, that is first hand indisputable information. Mark beckwith has been asked to leave jurisdictions in at least maryland, new york, and new jersey for issues in races he has been involved with, again first hand knowledge. I cannot speak for their current cash on hand, but look at their gear, their trucks, the trailers, its evident they arent hurting. Your defense us laughable.
I remember Kevin Wallis being suspended for race fixing in Michigan back in 2010, but wasn't he later cleared?
I don't remember Rick Plano or Peter Wrenn.
Any info or link?
I have no skin in this question, I dont know any of these guys, but I have seen plenty of unsubstantiated claims.
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I remember Kevin Wallis being suspended for race fixing in Michigan back in 2010, but wasn't he later cleared?
I don't remember Rick Plano or Peter Wrenn.
Any info or link?
I have no skin in this question, I dont know any of these guys, but I have seen plenty of unsubstantiated claims.
Rick plano https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-03-23-8803020961-story.html
Peter wrenn http://www.harnesslink.com/News/Peter-Wrenn-receives-suspension-from-IHRC-106247
Thats just quick search. You dont have to look far to see how intertwined beckwith is with multiple barns, its obvious he has some influence into race outcomes.
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Rick plano https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-03-23-8803020961-story.html
Peter wrenn http://www.harnesslink.com/News/Peter-Wrenn-receives-suspension-from-IHRC-106247
Thats just quick search. You dont have to look far to see how intertwined beckwith is with multiple barns, its obvious he has some influence into race outcomes.
Thanks
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odd to have almost a 30 per cent win rate and be that much of a crook. you compare everything to years ago but not in the present. horses have bad days just as humans. they are not machines. everytime they get beat does not mean they were stiffed. i never said that certain people were not involved with race fixing, i stated it does not happen often as you seem to make it out.
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I'm with iceman on this.
In addition, if you read my comment above, I didn't present as a criminal trial judge. I didn't claim any convictions. I said a lot of suspicious characters which were enough for ME to be convinced not to play there. I followed some of these accounts in the press at the time and they definitely colored my opinion of the people involved. Is amusing to me that all these converge on pompano every winter. And in years past I watched quite a few cards there. Saw enough for me to be convinced not to play pompano.
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all charges get dropped which proves that governments are either crooked or they can be beat, take your pick.
Crooked. Extremely. It's sickening.
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They hire the cheapest judges they can find!
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The last thing many State Racing Commissions want is a policing action that may wind up in court. Not in the spirt of protecting gamblers and horsemen. More to due with competency and cost to build a case and adjudicate.
Bottom line, they place little if any political value on doing the right thing. To them , harness racing is the cross they bare.
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Imma guess no one on this thread hit the Hi-5 last night. ngc3 ngc3
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State Racing Commissions don't have or can't convince their higher powers to fund an investigation or complaint. They see no value in a decision, one way or the other.
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Imma guess no one on this thread hit the Hi-5 last night. ngc3 ngc3
Like I'm gonna tell any of you saps. I got beat for 500 last time I bragged. Same jew that got that banded guy. I aint lyin.....
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"EXACTLY" and if this doesn't spell corruption and a rigged game than I don't know what does. And this is why the game is dying the young or new blood can see it and want no part of it.
Florida has no racing commission. The judges are hired by the track.
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Rick plano https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-03-23-8803020961-story.html
Peter wrenn http://www.harnesslink.com/News/Peter-Wrenn-receives-suspension-from-IHRC-106247
Thats just quick search. You dont have to look far to see how intertwined beckwith is with multiple barns, its obvious he has some influence into race outcomes.
You got to do better than this.
The thing with Wrenn was a failed human drug test. bfd
That famous race at Maywood? You really think 10 guys conspired to carve up a $15,000 trifecta pool?
Come on now.
You don't believe the stuff you wrote, right?
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I believe it, and the election was fixed and Trump really did win big just like he said. ngc3
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I believe it, and the election was fixed and Trump really did win big just like he said. ngc3
In a landslide! ngc3
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does anyone think mark betwith doesnt cheat every race?
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You got to do better than this.
The thing with Wrenn was a failed human drug test. bfd
That famous race at Maywood? You really think 10 guys conspired to carve up a $15,000 trifecta pool?
Come on now.
You don't believe the stuff you wrote, right?
I do not think you read either link. You can try again.
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I do not think you read either link. You can try again.
I read them both.
The Wrenn story was about his addiction to morphine and other pain shit.
The Maywood fix story listed 10 guys they said fixed a trifecta.
Please stop. Be silent.
therwise,,, You just is stupid.
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Judges the three blind mice!!!
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Mark Beckwith cheats every race Pigland? You are a moron. Do you actually read what you write?
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Just shut it down....criminal enterprise
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If winning races is cheating then there are a lot of them piggy...........
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I read them both.
The Wrenn story was about his addiction to morphine and other pain shit.
The Maywood fix story listed 10 guys they said fixed a trifecta.
Please stop. Be silent.
therwise,,, You just is stupid.
Thats fucked up wrong link posted on Wrenn i failed to verify. https://www.harnessracing.com/news/main/peterwrennsuspendedforunsatisfactorydrive
As for that chicago tribune link i know the rick plano thing is zero to do with maywood, that story you didnt read.
Vallandingham, who raced on the Chicago circuit in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and Plano are suspected by the California Horse Racing Board of rigging races in California at Los Alamitos late last year.
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They are cheaters calhoun, no defense possible.
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They are cheaters calhoun, no defense possible.
tmbz1 just a question of how much. Dont need to see the article's, there's a lot more out there. As justice potter said, I know it when I see it. It's there. And I don't think the money being less now than before dissuades the cheaters. They do it with impunity because they can unchecked. And because its tax free.
Anything else being argued and you just ain't talking sense...
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As for that chicago tribune link i know the rick plano thing is zero to do with maywood, that story you didnt read.
I didn't read the story you linked that you said wasn't about Maywood or Plano that actually says:
The United States Trotting Association has revoked the licenses of Chicago-area harness horsemen Brian Pelling and Dennis Nardoni, whom Maywood Park stewards suspect of conspiring to fix a trifecta race at that track on Nov. 6.
In addition to Pelling, a 49-year-old driver, trainer and owner from Lockport, and Nardoni, a 44-year-old owner from Olympic Fields, the licenses of seven other other individuals were revoked in what the magazine called ''a roundhouse blow for integrity.''
They are Leo Bauer, Henri Filion, his brother Rheo Filion, Gilles Gendron, Richard Plano, Gene Vallandingham and Brian Yusko.
That one? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
gtfoh
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I didn't read the story you linked that says:
The United States Trotting Association has revoked the licenses of Chicago-area harness horsemen Brian Pelling and Dennis Nardoni, whom Maywood Park stewards suspect of conspiring to fix a trifecta race at that track on Nov. 6.
In addition to Pelling, a 49-year-old driver, trainer and owner from Lockport, and Nardoni, a 44-year-old owner from Olympic Fields, the licenses of seven other other individuals were revoked in what the magazine called ''a roundhouse blow for integrity.''
They are Leo Bauer, Henri Filion, his brother Rheo Filion, Gilles Gendron, Richard Plano, Gene Vallandingham and Brian Yusko.
That one?
gtfoh
Brian yusko wow forgot about that guy ty
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I guess the guys the roundhouse blow for integrity struck managed to get up? ngc3
We almost had em. ngc3 one more right cross for integrity and the industry would have been in great straits today. ngc3
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Thats fucked up wrong link posted on Wrenn i failed to verify.
You failed to verfy ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Then you call Calhoun liar.
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Mark Beckwith cheats every race Pigland? You are a moron. Do you actually read what you write?
Pigland is a legend. 11.wp
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You failed to verfy ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Then you call Calhoun liar.
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Never said liar.
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I didn't read the story you linked that you said wasn't about Maywood or Plano that actually says:
The United States Trotting Association has revoked the licenses of Chicago-area harness horsemen Brian Pelling and Dennis Nardoni, whom Maywood Park stewards suspect of conspiring to fix a trifecta race at that track on Nov. 6.
In addition to Pelling, a 49-year-old driver, trainer and owner from Lockport, and Nardoni, a 44-year-old owner from Olympic Fields, the licenses of seven other other individuals were revoked in what the magazine called ''a roundhouse blow for integrity.''
They are Leo Bauer, Henri Filion, his brother Rheo Filion, Gilles Gendron, Richard Plano, Gene Vallandingham and Brian Yusko.
That one? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
gtfoh
Maywood incident did not involve Rick Plano. Article discussing multiple integrity issues.
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the thing about pompano, all these crooks, yet they will double cross each other. while there may be a degree of cheating, if they rig a race 3 of them will try and come up with their own number in the same race.
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Chief First race last night non winners 1000 l/ 5 151 purse 3200!! minimum Scarborough Downs purse when we closed 3500 lol bring back downs!!
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Never said liar.
Calhoun said "I read article"
You respond: "Calhoun not read article."
So, yes, you call Calhoun LIAR
Ipso Fatso
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Superfecta..you say piglands a legend..does that mean all he says is true?..no one cheats every race so he is not telling the truth and is a legend in his own mind.
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Superfecta..you say piglands a legend..does that mean all he says is true?..no one cheats every race so he is not telling the truth and is a legend in his own mind.
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Superfecta..you say piglands a legend..does that mean all he says is true?..no one cheats every race so he is not telling the truth and is a legend in his own mind.
thimble do you know mark betwith?
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its beckwith..not betwith and i do know him..
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i have to say despite the crew here at the pomp, the racing has been pretty straight foreward. several times i marked a horse for a questionable drive only to see the horse not race for two months so to one his own. im doing quite well handicapping so a lot of questionable people ok but racing been good. pomp handle thru the roof this year. id take this over any place else right now.
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i have to say despite the crew here at the pomp, the racing has been pretty straight foreward. several times i marked a horse for a questionable drive only to see the horse not race for two months so to one his own. im doing quite well handicapping so a lot of questionable people ok but racing been good. pomp handle thru the roof this year. id take this over any place else right now.
Only place I bet.
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Florida has no racing commission. The judges are hired by the track.
I guess they got the message:https://www.arci.com/job/ops-state-steward/
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so many hate the pomp. yet it is the most formfull track we have racing rite now. study the program, watch the replays, if you can handicap you will get the money at the pomp.
i totally agree about some of the people here but the racing has been good. i dont like uncoupled horses but the better one finishes ahead almost every time, except in cases of bad trips.
if you dont like pomp. dont bet it. stop complaining. the handles up huge and so is my wallet. best year i have ever had in 30 years of playing the pomp.
again if the races are crooked then they must study the program and see that the ones that should win, do win.
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CROOKS SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL, NOT JUST BANDED. JUST DONT DO IT AGIN, IS NOT AN EXCUSE. SHUT THE PLACE DOWN IF THEY WONT GET RID OF THE CROOKS. TAKE MATTERS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS TO ELIMINATE THE THEIFS
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Betwith should be banded
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I got a question might have to do with race fixing. Why do trainers always go if possible with a driver from the same area originally. Ie michigan trainers will often use butler, wrenn etc. Austrailian trainers often use a driver from down under, canadian trainers love scotty z etc. I always thought it was because trainers were afraid the local drivers would screw them. But they could trust "their" guy from the same area. I took this as a tacit acknowledgement from insiders that race fixing was real and a concern not only to bettors but owners and trainers as well. Am I mistaken? If so please explain.
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I got a question might have to do with race fixing. Why do trainers always go if possible with a driver from the same area originally. Ie michigan trainers will often use butler, wrenn etc. Austrailian trainers often use a driver from down under, canadian trainers love scotty z etc. I always thought it was because trainers were afraid the local drivers would screw them. But they could trust "their" guy from the same area. I took this as a tacit acknowledgement from insiders that race fixing was real and a concern not only to bettors but owners and trainers as well. Am I mistaken? If so please explain.
in increasing order of importance
3. your explanation ... they aare paranoid.
2. do not under estimate the depth of inbreeding that occurs. they may not have the same name but they are rarely separated by more than 2 degrees.
1. they are too lazy to try to get the best driver they can.
jmvvhmfo
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1 makes some sense. I gave some thought to that myself. Path of least resistance- just easiest.
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Horrible horrible place pompano. They will let anyone do anything, its been proven. They throw them out they are back the next meet. Right now CHOC FULL OF CROOKS AND IF YOU DONT KNOW THAT YOU DONT KNOW JACK ABOUT HARNESS.
PIG 100000000000% RIGHT ABOUT BECKTWIT. AND THIS MOTHERFUCKING RACING JURISDICTION PACK OF THIEVES LETS THEM RACE UNCOUPLED ON TOP OF ALLLLLL THAT!!! UN MOTHERFUCKING BELIEVABLE. STOP THE BETS=STARVE THE RATS
If some of you guys actually had a clue you would be dangerous!
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betwith trys to bet every race
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no sense commenting on your stupidity
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no sense commenting on your stupidity
the man is gonna burn in hell
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You have proven my point by your remark. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Brett winning races is solid proof something is up. Is Chindano getting help from beckwith because of his connection to larry?
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$45k non carryover pic 4 pools with 12% takeout.
A couple years ago they couldn't get 30k total per race. Now it's a 100k. Those old folks really miss their greyhounds.
$1.2 Mil handle
non-jackpot pick6
Lots to like there.