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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: JIDGE on September 07, 2023, 09:55:26 AM
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Take into consideration geographic location.
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Depends if you are keeping or selling the yearling
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Selling.
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HESTON BLUE CHIP - Mainly not a big producer in PA.
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If we are going to have this discussion, here is a list of everyone. I think 20 grand for Tall Dark Stranger is a steep ask considering not one has stepped on a track in a competitive way and he's the 2nd highest of all along with his sire Bettor's Delight, only Captain T has a higher fee.
All Bets Off ON $ 5,000 Seelster Farms BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Always B Miki PA $ 12,500 Diamond Creek Farm of Pennsylvania ALWAYS A VIRGIN
American Courage NY $ 5,000 Blue Chip Farms, LLC AMERICAN IDEAL
American Ideal NY $ 10,000 Blue Chip Farms, LLC WESTERN IDEAL
Artspeak ON $ 4,000 Winbak Farm of Canada WESTERN IDEAL
Best In Show IN $ 3,500 Premier Acres BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Betterthancheddar ON $ 5,000 Winbak Farm of Canada BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Betting Line ON $ 5,000 Winbak Farm of Canada BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Bettor's Delight ON $ 20,000 Winbak Farm of Canada CAM'S CARD SHARK
Bettor's Wish PA $ 10,000 Diamond Creek Farm of Pennsylvania BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Big Jim ON $ 4,000 Seelster Farms WESTERN IDEAL
Bit Of A Legend N OH $ 2,500 Midland Acres BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Boston Red Rocks KY $ 4,000 Melinda Farms ROCKNROLL HANOVER
Bulldog Hanover ON $ 15,000 Seelster Farms SHADOW PLAY
Capt Midnight IN $ 5,000 Premier Acres CAPTAINTREACHEROU S
Captain Crunch PA $ 7,500 Diamond Creek Farm of Pennsylvania CAPTAINTREACHEROU S
Captain Trevor IL $ 2,500 Univ Of Illinois Horse Clinic CAPTAINTREACHEROU S
Captain Victorious MI $ 3,000 LilliVin Farm CAPTAINTREACHEROU S
Captaintreacherou s PA $ 30,000 Hanover Shoe Farms SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Catch The Fire OH $ 6,000 Sugar Valley Farm CAPTAINTREACHEROU S
Century Farroh ON $ 5,000 Seelster Farms MACH THREE
Classic Card Shark DE $ 3,500 Winbak Farm of Delaware CAM'S CARD SHARK
Courtly Choice NY $ 6,000 Winbak Farm of New York ART MAJOR
Dancin Yankee OH $ 2,500 Cool Winds Farms YANKEE CRUISER
Dapper Dude MD $ 1,500 Harris Paints Stallion Station THE PANDEROSA
Doctor Butch VA $ 3,000 Stony Ridge Farm ART MAJOR
Downbytheseaside OH $ 17,500 Sugar Valley Farm SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Dude's The Man ME $ 2,000 DuPuis Farm AMERICAN IDEAL
Fear The Dragon OH $ 4,000 Midland Acres DRAGON AGAIN
Freaky Feet Pete IN $ 3,000 Ivy Lane Farm ROCKIN IMAGE
Gulf Shores MN $ 2,000 Bluff Country Equine DOWNBYTHESEASIDE
He's Watching DE $ 5,000 Winbak Farm of Delaware AMERICAN IDEAL
Heart Of Chewbacca OH $ 2,500 Hagemeyer Farms BRING ON THE BEACH
Heston Blue Chip PA $ 6,000 Diamond Creek Farm of PA on behalf of Winbak Farm
Highalator DE $ 3,500 Safe Haven Farms SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Huntsville NY $ 8,500 Cameo Hills Farm SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
In The Arsenal NY $ 2,000 Leatherstocking Equine Center AMERICAN IDEAL
Jk Endofanera IN $ 7,500 Victory Hill Farm ART MAJOR
Lather Up OH $ 6,000 Sugar Valley Farm I'M GORGEOUS
Lazarus N NJ $ 10,000 Deo Volente Farms BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Luck Be Withyou MI $ 3,000 LilliVin Farm WESTERN IDEAL
Mcwicked ON $ 6,500 Winbak Farm of Canada MCARDLE
Megatron MI $ 2,000 Snow Ridge Farm MACH THREE
Miso Fast KY $ 2,500 Emerald Valley Farm ROLL WITH JOE
Monte Miki OH $ 5,000 Midland Acres ALWAYS B MIKI
Papi Rob Hanover PA $ 10,000 Hanover Shoe Farms SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Pebble Beach KY $ 7,500 Diamond Creek Farm of KY DOWNBYTHESEASIDE
Perfect Sting NJ $ 10,000 Deo Volente Farms ALWAYS B MIKI
Peyote PA $ 1,500 Sheer Heaven Farm CAMBEST
Rockin Image IN $ 4,000 Victory Hill Farm ROCKNROLL HANOVER
Rodeo Romeo OH $ 1,500 Hagemeyer Farms ROCKNROLL HANOVER
Roll With Joe NY $ 4,000 Blue Chip Farms, LLC CAM'S CARD SHARK
Shadow Play NY $ 6,000 Blue Chip Farms, LLC THE PANDEROSA
So Surreal NY $ 3,000 Cameo Hills Farm SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Somestarsomewhere IL $ 4,000 Walker Standardbreds SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Sports Column DE $ 2,500 Winbak Farm of Delaware SPORTSWRITER
State Treasurer ME $ 2,500 DuPuis Farm REAL DESIRE
Stay Hungry PA $ 10,000 Hanover Shoe Farms SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Stevensville IL $ 2,000 Univ Of Illinois Horse Clinic SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Summa Cum Laude OH $ 4,000 Midland Acres SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Sunshine Beach ON $ 4,000 Seelster Farms SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E
Sweet Lou PA $ 15,000 Diamond Creek Farm of Pennsylvania YANKEE CRUISER
Swift As A Shadow PA $ 1,500 Delaware Valley University BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Tall Dark Stranger PA $ 20,000 Hanover Shoe Farms BETTOR'S DELIGHT
Tellitlikeitis IN $ 3,000 Victory Hill Farm WELL SAID
Time To Roll IL $ 3,000 Walker Standardbreds ROCKNROLL HANOVER
Wearinmysixshoote r MD $ 4,000 Winbak Farm of Maryland CAPTAINTREACHEROU S
Well Said OH $ 4,000 Sugar Valley Farm WESTERN HANOVER
Western Fame OH $ 2,500 Cool Winds Farms WESTERN IDEAL
Western Terror OH $ 2,500 Hagemeyer Farms WESTERN HANOVER
White Bliss KY $ 1,500 Kentuckiana Farms ART MAJOR
Wild Wild Western PA $ 3,500 Lindwood Farm WESTERN IDEAL
Yankee Cruiser OH $ 5,000 Midland Acres ARTISCAPE
Yankee Skyscaper IL $ 3,000 Walker Standardbreds ARTISCAPE
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$1500 White Bliss. Yes its only 1500 but its a lifetime but nothing but training bills. Offspring won't be competitive in any jurisdiction.
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He actually has one picking up checks in minor stakes races but the point of breeding to White Bliss has nothing to do with trying to get a big money earner. It is strictly to produce another
"horse of a different color" Ask Sarah ... she's not in it for the money.
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Courtly Choice, not worth $6000 in Turkish money
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Catch the fire and Bettorthancheddar to me is way too high
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Lazarus will undoubtedly drop next year, possible in half. His second crop much weaker than his mediocre first.
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Lazarus will undoubtedly drop next year, possible in half. His second crop much weaker than his mediocre first.
Anything Ernie Martinez was ever involved in was cursed.
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Captain Crunch
soft
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Courtly Choice, not worth $6000 in Turkish money
He's doing ok, already almost 80% of his first crop made the races. By next year that will get up to over 90%.
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Captain Crunch
soft
Many looked great at last year's sales, but where are they now -- and not one standout.
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Captain Crunch
soft
Captain Crunch only gets soft in milk...
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good subject and good list thorn
a couple of omissions
think cattlewash at $7,500 cdn could be very good
hate to say it but i think american ideal is high at $10k , has not produced much lately
realistically there is at least 10 on the list that should not be breeding but i guess for some lower jurisdictions is ok
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If i were selling I would have bred to TDS. His first crop will be crazy and he’ll have a few good ones with the quality mares he covered. But to keep and race. Too high for a horse Yannick had to pound on in most every race to the extent he was fined for excessive use of the whip. Pappi Rob is a much better choice financially and I believe race horse wise. To bad he broke a bone early on.
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good subject and good list thorn
a couple of omissions
think cattlewash at $7,500 cdn could be very good
hate to say it but i think american ideal is high at $10k , has not produced much lately
realistically there is at least 10 on the list that should not be breeding but i guess for some lower jurisdictions is ok
Good call on American Ideal -- $5 -7.5 seems more his range now, but he appears to be establishing himself as a successful broodmare sire.
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Captain Crunch
soft
Many looked great at last year's sales, but where are they now -- and not one standout.
He actually had 2 in the 252,000 final. Gem Quality out of the nice racemare Twinkle and Captain Fear Not who got scratched but had a few nice wins.
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He actually had 2 in the 252,000 final. Gem Quality out of the nice racemare Twinkle and Captain Fear Not who got scratched but had a few nice wins.
Very true, I believe Gem Quality was undefeated going in, but he failed to hit the board.
And Twinkle was an excellent race mare and she brought along her outstanding maternal family.
Right now GQ is probably a notch or two below the best 2yr olds., but he's definitely the cream of
the CC crop so far.
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I agree, that one of Gassie Coleman’s seems like the one to beat right now. Has been pretty impressive.
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As long as he can keep going hard. Right Lance? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3