the cullen clan

[Brown jug]

i was going to suggest that surely someone from the AGCO or whatever governing body pretends to regulate ontario should drop by the cullen , andrew , hennsley stables for a little peek a boo
but i see tonight  2 cullen horses scratched tonight at western fair but the third one entered did race
maybe they were just sick ..hmmm??
but lets be honest , in the last two weeks they have had some horses drop seconds and run off the screen

[mwins]

Do you guys think that EVERYONE cheats?
In your opinion, does anyone race "clean"?

[AsPromised]

Do you guys think that EVERYONE cheats?
In your opinion, does anyone race "clean"?

It's well known here in Alberta about Cullen and Hensley.
Cullen was told he wasn't welcome here.
He has had numerous positives since going to Ontario.
They obviously still cheating and are picking their spots.

[Artsplace]

How about Blair Burgess or John Bax or John Kopas to name just a few who does right by the horse but can't buy a win because of the cheating. These guys are horsemen and have proven it but many claim they are hacks which is unfair. What makes me laugh is all these horsemen associations who sit back and do nothing rather than stand up for the horsemen. The game is a joke.

What about Darling fuck face. Cheating too?

[Brown jug]

I don't think everyone cheats
 I think some push the envelope beyond what is fair or within the rules
some of the form reversal on some horses is beyond reasonable and needs to be investigated
dreamfair moxy, yes has been in the Cullen barn for quite some time
finished 4th at flam in nw $1,500 at 6:1
comes to Mohawk  in nw $3,000 and goes off at 4:1
in 5 starts prior to the mohawk start the horse had made $400 in total
flam time 156
Mohawk time 149.3 wins by 9 going awayand steps up the next week and paces in 151.4  finishing 5th while another cullen horse wins at 7:1
thats tough for people to gamble on
and there have been others

[Artsplace]

I don't think everyone cheats
 I think some push the envelope beyond what is fair or within the rules
some of the form reversal on some horses is beyond reasonable and needs to be investigated
dreamfair moxy, yes has been in the Cullen barn for quite some time
finished 4th at flam in nw $1,500 at 6:1
comes to Mohawk  in nw $3,000 and goes off at 4:1
in 5 starts prior to the mohawk start the horse had made $400 in total
flam time 156
Mohawk time 149.3 wins by 9 going awayand steps up the next week and paces in 151.4  finishing 5th while another cullen horse wins at 7:1
thats tough for people to gamble on
and there have been others

This can't be the first time you've seen a horse drop in class and then run off the screen?

[Frank the Zipper]

The success that hard work brings can make you seem like a cheater to losers.

" The harder I work the luckier i get " {Ben Franklin}

[Artsplace]

If you could comprehend I named a few honest horsemen but true to form you go off half cocked. Look you still haven't told me if you will show at the Inn, the parking lot is fine with me Fuckface.

You fuckin idiot. Just message me who you are and I will find you. I swear to Christ I'm not shy. I'm in my 50s and in Scarborough. I'm sure yur much older so not sure yur deserving of losing chiclets but a humiliating bitch slap is definately warranted for typical rats like you.

[Frank the Zipper]

EASY BOYS!

[Artsplace]

EASY BOYS!

He's a rat fuck bustout that comes on here spewing absolute bullshit about people I know. He's a 100% bullshit artist.

[Brown jug]

well if you are referring to dreamfair moxy my point was he actually moved up in class, couldn't make much in 5 prior starts at b's and jumps up at mohawk
also i don't begrudge any success via hardwork , in any business there are some people who are better, smarter and work harder and deserve the success they get
i guess in this case the cullen clan didn't work to hard on him until he got to mohawk and dropped 6 plus seconds over prior miles
anyway if you guys are fine with it so be it, happy wagering

[mwins]

Top 6 WEG trainers currently, by wins.

Moreau
Auciello
Baillargeon
Steacy
Fellows
Blais

How many have class 1, 2, or 3 positives?
When were they?

Are these guys cheaters, or just smarter than Burgess, Kopas, and Bax etc.

Give some facts, not just opinion.

[FirstUpFrom8Hole]

Do you guys think that EVERYONE cheats?
In your opinion, does anyone race "clean"?

Not everyone cheats but too many do. And there are some truly great horsemen out there who would do much better on an even playing field. It doesn't matter what business you're in...if theres money involved there will be cheating. Its a shame to lump the good ones in with the scum

[Manny]

All three have had there day.

Burgess - is just weird.  Kopas - broke and never could train one  Bax - slippery as they come.  Used drugs more than people think.    Darling is simply ego is as annoying as you could get.

Just from our experiences staying in Ontario for a few summers.

What about Darling fuck face. Cheating too?

[Manny]

And wow.  I just looked at Cullens horses the past month.  Holy fuck Arm and Hammer.