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LUCPARK

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It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« on: December 11, 2020, 08:34:56 PM »
Love he’s articals

Great guy

Just a little soft on those indicted

Good thing or bad. 

Friends. His pals or just wants everything to go away

??

Silence sometimes can be construed as

No problems seen here

You ploppers make the call

HRU   Needs to step up there game
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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2020, 08:50:11 PM »
You need a hobby

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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2020, 08:52:04 PM »
I need to move to Florida take up golfing
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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2020, 08:56:43 PM »
Get some lessons and come on down,,,,,lots of action here

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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2020, 09:20:51 PM »
Jew R G , in the top 10 of biggest crooks in the history of harness racing

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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2020, 09:24:56 PM »
He just can’t have it both ways

It’s not condemning by Convenience

He’s has to take a side

It’s time
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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2020, 08:54:40 AM »
Jew R G , in the top 10 of biggest crooks in the history of harness racing

Is that like, "You're the biggest anti semite" in the history of harness racing?

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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2020, 09:34:03 AM »
DUDE COULD PASS SOME DEADLY ASS GAS IN THE PADDOCK.

GURFARTTT WAS WHAT WE CALLED HIM.

NOONE, NO THING WITHIN RANGE WAS SAFE.  ALMOST AS BAD WAS HIS BREATH, COULD KILL A SPIDER WITH THAT STUFF.

LIKE MOST HORSEMEN, HE HAD NO MANNERS. HE GOT HIS KICKS, 'BY LEAVING ONE THERE, AND WATCHING PEOPLE STRUGGLE FOR BREATH

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Re: It’s time Ronnie Gurfien to start condemning the INDICTED
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2020, 09:40:04 AM »
In todays HRU, da Goooofffrrrraaall lll Guru responds with a thought and a question answer response:

His thought  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Sadly, I must report that Rene Allard’s name has been added this week to the list of indicted horseman in the Southern District of New York. Richard Banca and Allard were the last of the first wave of people of interest in the case to be formally charged.

To this writer, the evidence to this point seems quite damming. However, in today’s explanation of charges there is one questionable quote. “They found EPO like substances.” I am not sure that was the reporter’s take on the matter or a true line directly from the indictment. If it was a direct quote then I find it all too vague to ever prove in a court of law.

Unfortunately this case is moving at a snail’s pace truly unfair to the defendants and our entire industry. It’s time that the horse killers were put behind bars, and the innocents return to life.

So lets see if Hush can provide Goooofffrrrraaaal lllll Jr a little insight here. All major approved drug manufacturers have something in their medications called "markers". It helps to identify the medication in question during the testing of blood/urine at accredited testing locations. Approved medications were adulterated (changes made to its marker properties) by the blood dopers, were marked as something else or not labeled at all and sold. The adulterated substances/medications would still have the same blood enhancing capabilities, but the markers would not be a perfect match as they would be when used in the proper manner. Hence the comment  “They found EPO like substances.”

You want to know what is sad Goooofffrrrraaaal lllll Jr, it is your constant lack of knowledge on matters you don't have a clue on, but want to impress your 3 fans. Now who those 3 fans might be, who in the hell knows  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Now we get to a question/answer. More Goooofffrrrraaaal lllll Jr knowledge (or lack of)  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Does a harness driver know when a horse has received performance enhancing drugs?

This is by no means an easy question to answer, simply because there are so many facets to explore.

If you asked me 30 years ago I would say unequivocally yes because the drugs were not nearly as sophisticated as they are today and an animal treated with performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) would be more grabby or on the muscle than he was without the stimulant.

Today is another story. The driver may know more having trouble pulling the horse up at the end of the mile than he actually observed scoring down or going to the gate.

Blood doping would increase wind and stamina not likely to create a puller. However, high power pain killers might get an older horse feeling so good he may get a bit grabby.

All I have stated above is basically prudent conversation and is meaningless in the total scheme of things.

The top reinsmen are quite intelligent individuals. They are all well aware of what horses have PEDs when the draw comes out and they know exactly what is going on. Cheaters are notorious. Anyone that thinks that they are secretly getting away with murder is a fool. Don’t think for a moment that if Jeff Gural or Ron Gurfein know who are using drugs that Gingras, McCarthy, et al aren’t privy to the same information and more.

Look back at the results from previous years. Who were the drivers named on the horses of the indicted trainers. Truly not guys with .107 UDRS.

The situation is totally different with the use of blood doping. Before its existence, trainers would treat a horse to be good on a certain day, a big race, or as a method to cash a bet, but not on a every race basis. Today with programs of EPO, bicarbs and clenbuterol, the criminals, in essence, have every horse in every race on their toes.

If you haven’t read Brett Sturmans article (full story here) on Pat Lachance’s recent success please do. It gives great insight on how cleaning up the cheating has helped the honest trainers. I have personally known Patrick since he was a youngster. There was never a more honorable, talented and intelligent trainer in my book. His explanation of his present winning streak speaks volumes about how far we have come in the past year. Hopefully this is not the end of the story and we will hear of more similar scenarios as time goes on.

His response has way to many holes in it.

As Brett Pelling used to tell the driver in the Big M paddock before the race many years ago, "your gonna have a good day mate".

And just like today, drivers know well in advance when the "extra" in the tank is in. Horses don't take action that should, probably a reason for that, horse isn't driven as the program reads,  probably a reason for that also. Horse finishes up the track, probably went to the gate and was driven accordingly.

Trump, Jeeefffiieee Goooooffffrrrraaa lllll, and Ron the Gooooffffrrraaaal lll Guru are the 3 Knew Stooges of 2020 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

If YOU would "HUSH" up, YOU just might know WhatzzzzZ UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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