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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Brett Oil Can Boyd on October 18, 2018, 08:02:56 AM
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AS A THOROBRED TRACK
We are pleased to announce that Amwest and AmRace & Sports, LLC have signed and entered into an agreement in principle to purchase the Sports Creek Race Track facility. It is expected that the closing on the property will be scheduled soon, possible before November 1.
The MGCB has received the necessary information needed and we are awaiting their decision on the order.
Additionally, AmRace we should have a completed contract between AmRace and the Michigan HBPA in the next two weeks.
The immediate goal of AmRace & Sports is to begin simulcasting on January 1, 2019. Then, track conversion will begin, pending weather. Not knowing the role the weather will have on the conversion and barn improvements, the tentative race dates applied for will be thirty days of racing between May 31 and Labor Day. The proposed schedule is Friday and Saturday evenings with a 6:30 post time.
It should be noted that this entire deal has been put together in less than sixty days. Hundreds of hours have gone into this effort and working with Dan, Nelson Rob and the staffs of Amwest Kentucky and Amwest Oregon has been a most rewarding experience. Their commitment to the industry and Michigan thoroughbred racing is exceptional. I am looking forward to a grand relationship in the coming months and years.
Michigan HBPA
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They will fail miserably,'The house that the late Al Mugsy ruined"
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It is a beautiful little plant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BieNAKIKZGU
But runners on a half mile track? Its bad enough to have buggies on the short track, but runners? I remember half the field would end up in the parking lot at Hazel and that was a 5/8's.
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It is a 5/8s track.
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JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER PLACE TO GO TO, BESIDE FILTHY NORTHVILLE DOWNS, IS A PLUS
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JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER PLACE TO GO TO, BESIDE FILTHY NORTHVILLE DOWNS, IS A PLUS
Northville is a depressing place to race. I made my first horse racing bet at Sports creek.
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It is a 5/8s track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxhqUkwqmk UPDATE 2 YEARS LATER NOT GOOD UGH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxhqUkwqmk UPDATE 2 YEARS LATER NOT GOOD UGH
that was cool tmbz1
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If it was sold that way wouldn't have been posted on the local news last update was being talked about the township squashed it for it to be a venue manufacturer marijuana a big jumbo marijuana Farm .and resale shop in hopes of this being a good thing for Michigan since northville on limited time at current space and hazel now closed screwing over horseman just before season begins
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It would be nice to see place open again
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Looks like another Track I will Boycott....
Closing down a decent harness track to race broken down Tbreds
that should have been retired years ago?
The Flint water should really help the fan base.
This track will do as well as Hazel Park after they switched from harness to tbred
CLOSED in 18 months......now GONE.
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Obviously dealing with smart won it's in swarts Creek .so no Flint water you hater if they open I'll be much better alternative than drive to northville .to play and won't have to smell stale beer and pee .they gotta do minimal upgrade s there at Creek to get it going.then fix tract in the spring Muskegon lasted 8yrs in the middle of no where .so they might do ok plus when Sportsbook is allowed in Michigan then they'll be booming or at least that's probably are there hope.
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AmWest runs a first class operation.
This company knows what it's doing.
tmbz1 tmbz1
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The place is a dump,can't even drink the water in Flint.They will totally fail,about 2 dozen people will go for the simulcast races and the live T Breds will handle less than $50,000 a card,a total sewer and a joke of an idea to even try
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I hope this talk is more than talk because it would greatly ease my current problems of betting it's drive to Detroit to play 4races or put in bet account then if hit a good one must wait min4 days or longer to cash out plus 8mins from the Creek play it hit it cash out get out .much nicer scenario .
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I don't agree rabbit lesser of two evils you must like stale beer and piss at northville. Much cleaner place little better people too
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If you have such dislike don't go I will and so will many others too if ran correctly
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Northville is pretty nasty.....
The kids that run it have no experience....
I think they are hawking the property for Dad...should sell in a few years..
that will be the last of racing in Michigan.
These midwest hicks should go to PA.NY and learn how to run an operation...
MIdwest is last in everything....
u ever see the stuff they try to pawn off as pizza and bagels?
Gimme a freakin break.
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Believe It or Not people gamble all over everywhere in every state and there's no reason it won't succeed there at the creek if they get the Sportsbook in eventually .they didn't pay that much for the property reinvestment to update it and get it going again as next to nothing for as far as cost they got all the equipment what was left just need to update their computer software and sign some contracts it's a no-brainer if they can pay a ridiculous amount for Yonkers and for Northfield Park which race is there are garbage without slot machine money why can't work there.
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They were only selling the property for 1.5 million for over a hundred acres Barnes and facility and any other equipment that was left then add into updated and get it going couple hundred thousand probably so for less than 2 million and then they're going to offer but they'll offer minimal purses to start to get the simulcast contract they'll start making money hand-over-fist there's been a big void in Genesee County since they closed no one can bet anywhere on looks less they go to Detroit and all the old-timers don't use online accounts younger people do as I do but don't like to wait for my money when I hit
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Deeetroyit must be chock full of un edgeumacated folks like this smalltimer foole.
Did you make it past da turd grade with that impressive vocabulary and grasp of the English language?
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Once every couple years someone in Michigan gets their hopes up for a reopening of a past failed track. Wake me when Jackson Raceway opens like these dreamers were predicting a few years ago
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THIS IS A DONE DEAL. GOING TO HAPPEN, ALL THAT IS LEFT IS FOR MGCB TO APPROVE DATES AND ASSIGN THE MONEY FROM HAZEL PARK TO THE NEW OWNERS TO PAY FOR THE FIRST YEAR PURSES AND SET UP THE SIMULCAST AREA. THESE ARE BIG TIME OWNERS SETTING THIS UP
https://www.amwestentertainment.com/
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It really made sense to spend 40million on pinnacle downs didn't last 4years creek been there almost 30before it closed.big difference 2million and 40 million you get my meaning on what I write
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Obviously dealing with smart won it's in swarts Creek .so no Flint water you hater if they open I'll be much better alternative than drive to northville .to play and won't have to smell stale beer and pee .they gotta do minimal upgrade s there at Creek to get it going.then fix tract in the spring Muskegon lasted 8yrs in the middle of no where .so they might do ok plus when Sportsbook is allowed in Michigan then they'll be booming or at least that's probably are there hope.
I'm pretty sure Swartz Creek gets their water from Flint. At least they used to when I was up there.
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In 2013the track made 650k from live races and 15million in simulcast races so to those that say they only have 2dozen people it might have alot of action also was now on local news verifying the sale pending contracts awesome news I'm 8mins from there 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁 no more northville
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Published: October 21, 2018 10:58 am ET
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A push to bring live horse racing back to the shuttered Sports Creek Raceway has picked up momentum, as a horsemen’s group has announced that a deal is in place to purchase the track, and state regulators have confirmed that two applications seeking licencing have been received.
In late September, Michigan Horsemen's Benevolent and Protective Association President George Kutlenios explained that a group of Thoroughbred owners were in talks to purchase the Michigan raceway, which has sat empty since it closed at the end of 2014. Kutlenios said at the time that there was a good possibility that live harness racing could also return to Sports Creek.
A few days later, an mlive.com article highlighted that the MHBPA had announced that Amwest and AmRace & Sports, LLC had signed and entered into an agreement in principle to purchase the raceway. The announcement states that the closing on the property could be on or before November 1, and that the Michigan Gaming Control Board has received the necessary information needed. AmRace & Sports’ immediate goal is to start simulcasting on January 1, 2019. The announcement explains that tentative race dates applied for will be thirty days of racing (on Friday and Saturday evenings) between May 31 and Labour Day.
This past Friday (Oct. 19), Michigan Gaming Control Board spokeswoman Mary Kay Bean confirmed that the MGCB has received applications that would allow the shuttered facility to re-open. Bean explained that one application is under review and action on it is expected in October. She also stated that a second application "requires further review" and likely won't be acted on this month.
Last week’s developments didn’t specifically mention the return of live Standardbred racing to Sports Creek Raceway. Kutlenios had mentioned in late September that the track’s prospective new owners were interested in running live Thoroughbred and Quarter Horse racing in 2019. During that discussion, however, Kutlenios did state that he had spoken with the potential new owners about bringing live harness racing into the fold, and that he had been in contact with Michigan Harness Horsemen's Association President Tom Barrett.
"We're for all the horsemen, we're not going to be a game killer for anybody,” Kutlenios said. “I've already talked to the potential new owners about doing a split meet there for harness and Thoroughbreds, just like they did at DRC and Hazel."
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Was looking and the property has been taken off the market and not accepting offers anymore so looks like a done deal .lots of notice on local news .split meet would be the shit best of both as long as contracts agreed upon by both sides.
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AmWest runs a first class operation.
This company knows what it's doing.
tmbz1 tmbz1
will we get extra rebates?
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you guy's are insane,Sports Creek will fail miserably,ZERO chance at ANY success
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Regardless of what they own they made money in 2013 and made money in 2014 their totals for the year for 2013 were 15 million and simulcast + 650000 + live racing wagering dollars. 2014 was lower but they still made good money any business owner would be happy with a business that made 15 million in a year's time
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Those were the earnings for Sports Creek Raceway 2013 and 2014 it does not matter to me what they own outside of their new venture they will make the Horseman happy and give them a spot to race in the people that are left have places to go. It also generates lots of income for the township
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Better than sitting on the farm eating grass and a chance to cash lol
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My dad told me long time ago if horse has four legs he has a chance to win a race it doesn't matter what the odds are on the odds board and it's just matters what they put in the tank before the race and how the horse was trained. Do you really have any options other to move or sell your horses and then work at McDonald's
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And to be honest if it is thoroughbreds there's not much quality ones left here if it's standardbreds there pretty much bottom-of-the-barrel also here unless they shipped from Indiana or Ohio
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I can't see it happening although people like an alternative to casinos the location is not well populated so who would go 2 guys from Lansing 3 from flint and me
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I don't believe that they wouldn't even fix the carpet in there what it's looks like 40yrs old and patches with duck tape.the sad thing is place is crazy busy every time I'm at Northville there packed but still smells like pee and the toilets bairly work
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Well the numbers don't lie though 2013-2014 2012 they made more than 10 million a year with simulcast wagering they do ok
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Just the quality of horses will be in question and how many entered in each race
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It's done deal for sports creek race track meet and greet new owners on Nov 18th at Holly hotel in Holly great to see they want to meet owners trainer s and anyone wanting to meet them .great thing for the community.
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I don't see any new posts of news besides the one that was supposed to be from 4 years ago when the Horsemen's Association offered to buy it then and management and ownership Sports Creek would not come to terms with them then and a Sit dormant in empty for 4 years. It's already been confirmed they own the property and now are working on contracts with the gaming board and days for live events
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If there is such an article please post I live in Creek been watching everything earnestly. It will make it easier my life and many other people to keep from driving all the way to Detroit AKA Northville to play
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Thank you for posting the article I hadn't seen that one however everything listed in there has already been what they plan to do they have to upgrade the facility because the owners strip the building took out all the all the TVs any anything worth money was sold off obviously upgrade the bathrooms and clean the place back up and obviously weather pertaining to upgrades to the racetrack and racing surface and changing the configuration to run throughbreads I'm not sure why you said highly doubtful they'll get it done they already own the property they've already signed and in the process of closing already seen advertisements for now hiring for help and meet the new owners of Sports Creek Raceway in Holly Michigan on the 18th of November. And they are currently going through the contract with the Horsemen's Association
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So what else can you say the rest of the Minor Details will be worked out as soon as they go through all their process but in accomplishing all they have in less than 60 days is surprising my congratulations to all involved they work tirelessly to get this deal put together
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IT'S OOOOFFFFIIICCCCII IIAAALLLL
https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/10-31-18/northville-sports-creek-news.html
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Awesome news for the small guy.make some money and not far to go.
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Maybe they can get both a mixed me both Thoroughbred and harness wants Northville does closed and then they can collect all of their days because days are numbered at Northville with the old property being sold
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If they would run a NYE card ......
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During the fairs or what?
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Echo,you and Jeff James fixed many races
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SHUT THE FUCK UP BLOWZON, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR MADE UP STORIES. IT IS A THREAD ABOUT THE FUTURE, AND AN IDIOT LIKE YOU MAKES IT ABOUT HIMSELF AND THE PAST. SO TYPICAL OF THE LOSERS WHO RUINED THE GAME
YOU NEVER WON SHIT AND GUYS LIKE YOU ARE A DIME A DOZEN PLEASE STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THE NEW OPERATION AS YOU CAN.
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Amazing how many guys who raced back then still think they were great. You never get great by racing at the creek. The bottom of the bottom. This guy Kochead just likes to pat himself on the back, his ego is enormous. And who drinks chocolate milk? Wtf. Stuck in the past is no way to go thru life. Living on memories
Back then everyone thought they had a monster, ask Poopat
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As this is the future thread how do u think they will draw with t-breads instead of harness.for live anyone ????
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Watch it Echo,I HAVE teller printouts of dozens of your bets with Jeff "out" of the ticket,BEWARE what you post
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Sports Creek races not fixed? ngc3
What fckin kool-aid are you drinking!
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Wasn't hazel park established by the Detroit mob? Michigan sporsts racing was maybe the most corrupt in the country. All the harness parks were bad: Jackson, nothville, sports Creek, hazel etc.
The racing industry refrain is always the races aren't corrupt because there's no $. Up until 2000, the money was there to be taken. After that handle went South quickly. But imo once the Stewart's of racing had tasted how easy the gains of corruption we're, they'd take from a purse that was nothing. It just became second nature.
Also imo, it's why the state legislature hasn't supported racing in Michigan when in other states they have at least half heartedly kept racing afloat. Michagan was just too corrupt for it's own good. And, the legislature wasn't going to piss more $ down the drain.
Just my honest take on the horseplop above.
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Sports Creek races not fixed? ngc3
What fckin kool-aid are you drinking!
how often did you go to the creek or
Northville?
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I didn't have to. It's enough time know Tony the fixer was whitey bulgers man in Michigan. Answer this: where's racing in Michigan now and why.
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I didn't have to. It's enough time know Tony the fixer was whitey bulgers man in Michigan. Answer this: where's racing in Michigan now and why.
NO, YOU JUST PROVED YOU DONT KNOW SQUAT
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Good luck with Sports Creek!
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NO, YOU JUST PROVED YOU DONT KNOW SQUAT
ngc3 correctamundo!!
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Just some thoughts, a heads up and concerns about Sports Creek Raceway.
When operating as harness track, it was a pleasant track to visit.
It was supported by horsemen their fans and the community.
Yes you had to pay to park, to purchase your programs, and to sit in the clubhouse area, but that made you appreciate it even more.
From a racing prospective it was well supported by the horse industry as most of the fields were full, which is a key to success for any wagering.
As an entertainment venue it was well supported by both the fans who packed the parking lot and the clubhouse, and the ladies group who provided the terrific buffet at a reasonable price.
The calibre of the horses it appeared, was never an issue as horseracing fans will bet on anything given a fair shot.
The main issue back then as it would appear to be down the road is the location. On one hand it is on a major highway, but on the other hand the population draw is questionable.
The size of the track for thoroughbred racing is not that big an issue since Hazel Park racetrack was the same size with flatter and sharper half-mile turns.
There would be cosmetic changes to setting up for thoroughbreds at Sports Creek, things like jockey rooms out—rider locations, softer surfaces, and a hub rail.
Thoroughbreds are not horses that should be shipped in, as a result stabling will be required, which in this day and age is few and far between.
A sceptic looking at Sports Creek Raceway opening up could suggest the following:
1. Are there enough thoroughbreds left in the state to put on a racemeet perhaps two days a week?
2. As happened at the Pinnacle racetrack a few years back, that meet only lasted as long as the $40 million that was sitting in a thoroughbred race fund from the DRC was used up? There were some conspiracy theories going around back then about a deal made between a county executive, and a banker, and a horseman group, to get that money any way they could.
That track, at least, was in a location to draw from a greater population base than Sports Creek Raceway, but for anyone who ever attended you could see they did have a simulcast building and wagering area but the grandstand was nothing more than a set of high school bleacher seats.
Now it appears there is purse money (Hazel) and I’m not exactly sure how much that is in another horse purse accoint, which will be utilized at the opening of Sports Creek thoroughbred.
Perhaps the opening for thoroughbred racing, will open the door for harness once that thoroughbred money has been depleted.
I would not bet against a successful operation, but I would suggest, if there are those out there willing to put their money to take the chance, then why not support those efforts?
Yours for integrity, transparency, and accountability,
Marty Adler
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Sure hope the new entrepreneurs plan on hiring fresh, non Michiganders, with fresh ideas to run their operation. Relying on the opinions of tired old Michiganders will get them nowhere fast. Some, like most, think they have all the answers and still others have to turn it into a thread totally about them and their dreams to relive a past where they think they were a somebody. The 'back in the day gang', got the industry into the sad shape it is in now. Cant possibly expect anyone of them to achieve success now
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All very good points from you guys both as a person who doesn't own horses or train I believe this new people need to be involved there the manager previously was a joke didn't care about condition of the place or his employees or Races just price points and how cheaply he could not pay anything thus the place had revenue of over 10million but had a 12k water bill 90days past due broken down tractor and part of the tote board didn't work for the longest time .as I went there most of my adult life with my dad it was clean everything was in nice condition and good food but for last 10yrs gone down hill under his leadership but he got a bonus and payed well.i believe reopen fix it build it they will come harness or t -breeds. Hazel had mostly full fields just offer purses decent and they will ship from Ohio and Indiana cause they only race there for a short time .I wish them the best and hope I see the place like it was a few years ago not how it is now .
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And if needed there is plenty of space and land for other barns and a jockeys room to be built just needs to be cleared from weeds and rubbish removed.other side of racetrack has a second parking lot hasn't been used for 20+yrs lots of room there to build.
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Don't Michigan have some rich old Jewish people to take over the operation? They need a savior in the worst way. Promise them a casino or a sports betting palace. One would think a state like that with so many black people would thrive with sports betting,
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I'm not sure what u mean but any smart person has got out of here if they could people that are left can't go because of one family reason or another .but people that are chosen to run the place must know there stuff to get place fixed up nice and running like a well oiled machine and the money will flow .to everyone
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Don't Michigan have some rich old Jewish people to take over the operation? They need a savior in the worst way. Promise them a casino or a sports betting palace. One would think a state like that with so many black people would thrive with sports betting,
GO TO DOWNTOWN DEARBORN AND YOU MAY JUST FIND THE JEWISH SAVIOR YOU ARE LOOKING FOR...
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NO, YOU JUST PROVED YOU DONT KNOW SQUAT
Maybe your right. But I'm an outside observer and this is a forum that allows for people's views to be heard. So I'll offer another view from the person that doesn't know squat.
I've watched more than my fair share of harness races over the last 40 yrs. I may not have the industry insight that some of you obviously possess but I'll offer my take.
A lot of the races I watched at Hazel and Sports Creek involved short priced favorites going on first up trips to nowhere.
Public trust and providing a product that is demanded are vital issues for any business that wants to survive absent government welfare.
These days simulcast dollars are integral to the survival of racetracks.
IMO this new operation will need to restore some public faith if they want to have a going concern.
I'd point out again Hazel closed, Sports Creek closed, Windsor (Canadian track) closed. Why?
Ultimately public trust matters. Maybe in the case of these tracks the closings were unfair.
I'll offer an analogy. OJ Simpson was not convicted of murder and was determined not guilty. That's was a criminal matter. However, most folks still wouldn't have wanted to move in next door to him when the trial was over. Lizzie Borden wasnt convicted of a crime but if I was around back then I wouldn't have been caught dead taking a nap on her downstairs couch in the years following her trial.
Fair? Maybe not.
Ultimately the public and government support are impt. I wager a lot. I have many long time acquaintances that wager a lot. When there was racing in the state, we had zero desire to wager on Michigan tracks.
I'd repeat Sportscreek closed, Hazel closed, the Canadian track closed? Fair? Maybe not. Public perception matters. The new operation wants to be mindful of public perception.
I hope the new operation gives at least some consideration to this and is a successful venture that exceeds Hazel's long run.
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I am the foremost authority on Michigan Harness Racing and quite frankly I have never heard the name Kochendorfer . So if you think you were someone special, you were not. Go fuck yourself
http://www.mi-harness.net/Mich/hofhrsl.html
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Island Echo
Loved thst horse OSH, and he sure loved the front end. We both made a fair deal.
Oil Can
As one of the strongest supporters of racing in the state, your recent posts reflect a modicum of pain.
A bad taste in your mouth no doubt, from your MHHA dealings, compounded by your heroic, but failed support of Jackson Raceway.
I always thought you could have been one of the leaders to move racing forward, and still do, with just a slight attitude upgrade.
I think everyone agrees that Sports Creek alone will not turn the industry, but it could be something to build upon, if it does have some success.
What absolutely killed racing in Michigan, when it actually was on an upswing, was the prop vote against slots, spearheaded by the Detroit casinos.
That is now old news; however, Sports Creek is not under the Detroit purview, which now could lead to a re-think of slots at an out-state track.
Note, there is no successful racetrack in North America, that hasn’t propered with no slots.
The 3 closed tracks mentioned in another response, all have one thing in common - NO SLOTS!
If the day ever came where “little” SC were to be awarded thst alternate formsof attracting a market, the precident would be set for a major urban
track to be considered.
And Oil Can, you could help lead the way.
Just my opinion.
- Marty
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Just had a message from a friend who informed me that “Oil Can Boyd” is not who I thought was Brett Boyd, a man ai admire.
My error.
I stand by my positive comments.
I now have two people to appreciate.
Marty Adler
(My real name)
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You are a living legend Marty
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GOOD LUCK TO THE NEW OWNERS OF THE CREEK AS A RACETRACK/OFFTRACK SIMULCASTING CENTER. MICHIGAN NEEDS SEVERAL PLACES WHERE YOU CAN MAKE A LEGAL WAGER. USING A COMPUTER TO MAKE A BET ON HORSE RACING IN MICHIGAN IS NOT LEGAL
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He is. If there is a more accomplished person in the "sport" that posts on here than Marty Adler I would be shocked and stunned. Wish you would post more Marty....this site is in dire need of real horseman and your opinions are respected as you have actually "walked the walk"...thru good and bad. Get rid of these racist piles of garbage and never beens nud Mr this a real forum like Paulick report for tbreds.
what the hell would you know about horsemen or horse racing ? What is your vast experience based on?
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Dumbest idea ever,ZERO chance for them to have any success
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Can't even drink the FUCKING water in the Flint area,tear the dump down,NO CHANCE FOR ANYTHING GOOD TO COME OF OPENING THE HOUSE THE MUGSY RUINED
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Can't even drink the FUCKING water in the Flint area,tear the dump down,NO CHANCE FOR ANYTHING GOOD TO COME OF OPENING THE HOUSE THE MUGSY RUINED
WHY WOULD ANY OF YOU TITANS OF INDUSTRY GIVE A SHIT WHETHER ANOTHER GUYS BUSINESS FAILS OR SUCCEEDS? OR DOES IT TAKE A COUPLE OF LOSERS TO SPOT ANOTHER?
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Why does everyone keep saying same crap and repost same stuff if they finish and close on the property bye dec 1they have dates approved and contracts with horseman that's way more than Jackson had and renovation s are minimal beside redue of track in the spring if they open I'll go and so will many others I know will too if coulda woulda shoulda they open awesome all I can say is landscaping will be rediclious let go too long took a drive in there to see if new signs up .lots of work outside to do
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YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE THE BLUFFBOY, HE WORRIES ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE BUSINESS WAY TOO MUCH. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING THE CREEK ARE HOPING TO GET SPORTS BETTING AND ARE WILLING TO RE OPEN THE CREEK AS A DOWNPAYMENT TO SHOW THEIR INTEREST.
GARY, THE DUFFLEBAG HAS YOUR NAME ON IT, YOU WONT KNOW WHAT HIT YA, AND IF YOU WAKE UP, IT WILL BE BATTERED AND BRUISED IN A DUMPSTER. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK, MR FRIDAY AT NORTHVILLE GUY, SAME AS HEYWOOD TICK TICK TICK
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73cv.2 ngc3 73cv.2 73cv.2 ngc3
The Wittle man will never be caught!
Biggest coward in meeeshigan
tmbz1
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Just thought some you might be interested in what Windsor Raceway looked like 3 years after the Ontario government cancelled slots (SARS) in 2012.
Today, a new givernment returned the option for slots to Ontario.
Too late for Windsor where I called for 43 years before heading to Hazel Park.
Michigan horse people and their fans loved the track and we went overboard to welcome all of you. There really snd truly is something special sbout you Michigan (and Ohio) folks - you are passioate about the game, and all you ask is for a decrnt shot.
I won’t go into all the things, but we really looked to the north (fyi Detroit is north of Windsor), and we marketed with you in mind. Things like, free border tokens to American betting windows to occasions where we featured prime rob dinners fo $3.99....Canadian!
I have a ton os stories tomske some of the skeptics (no disrespect intended) how great Michigan racing was, and could be.
You have a new governor, and with the stars could all align, perhaps a future.
Yours for integrity, transparency, and accountability
Marty
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Marty,call Ron Cameron
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Marty,call Ron Cameron
Don't you mean MushMouth?
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AS LONG AS THE MHHA HAS A SAY IN MICHIGAN HARNESS RACING I HOPE THERE IS NEVER ANY MORE HARNESS RACING IN MICHIGAN ONCE NORTHVILLE PACKS UP SHOP.
ONLY 44 DAYS IN A SPLIT MEET NEXT YEAR? AND THE MHHA ACCEPTED THAT? HOW IS A GUY SUPPOSED TO MAKE A LIVING WITH THAT FEW RACING DATES?
SPORTS CREEK BETTER HAVE SOME 2 FOR 1 BUFFET DEALS OR I WONT BE ATTENDING
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AS LONG AS THE MHHA HAS A SAY IN MICHIGAN HARNESS RACING I HOPE THERE IS NEVER ANY MORE HARNESS RACING IN MICHIGAN ONCE NORTHVILLE PACKS UP SHOP.
ONLY 44 DAYS IN A SPLIT MEET NEXT YEAR? AND THE MHHA ACCEPTED THAT? HOW IS A GUY SUPPOSED TO MAKE A LIVING WITH THAT FEW RACING DATES?
SPORTS CREEK BETTER HAVE SOME 2 FOR 1 BUFFET DEALS OR I WONT BE ATTENDING
WILL ANY REAL ESTATE CROOKS WITH 60 INCH WAISTBANDS ATTEND?
WILL ZAHNATHAN WINTERS SHOW UP?
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Best for everyone that the deal fell apart,ZERO chance that it would have succeeded ,by the way,George was one of the biggest crooks ever to be associated with the horse industry here in Mi
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Well there you go Chris locking says it all that asshole ran that place into the ground .now playing hard ball and talked the owners into holding out for more money wow greedy stupid idiots the deal mostly done and now a change of heart on selling for the price offered do the realize the money needed to get it fixed just to open not included track redue in spring that is a shame been working for months on this that's how it ends because of greed after no other realistic offers but there's for 4years ................. ..
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At least they offered hope to people put out of work and bringing them back to work now less than 2weeks before deadline can they get pushed through with Chris locking in play the worst manager ever still been getting a paycheck for 4years even with the place closed .how does that work ????????? Hes ruin the place everyone gets the boot but he's still getting his money wow
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That's ok if they don't it just cuts down costs cause I'm 10mins from there .and the agrivation of waiting for a check from bet account if I hit as I only play a few races a card if I see money to be made maybe when property owners are bankrupt someone can buy it but funny they turned down 1.2million which they agree upon 40days ago then switch and said no holding out for more the funny thing is in 4years place for sale highest price offer was 400k for said property. Oh well
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Anyone have any information pertaining to finalization of the sale were they able to get the property the deadline for signing the contract was December 1st thanks for the wonderful general manager Chris locking and the owners of Sports Creek playing Hardball Holding Out for more money at the last second after they already agreed on a price it written In The Holly paper that the sale was not going to go through because agreement was not adhered to but that they had till December 1st to sign the contract that was pending anyone please post update if any known by anybody I looked for new news but haven't seen yet
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thanks for the wonderful general manager Chris locking ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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It is now official Sports Creek has been sold as of 6 hours ago on the 14th of December before their deadline they finally caved and came to an arrangement on the property and sold it out right it's about time after Renovations and some cleanup let the money flow get
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Let's hope they open in Jan feb is tax time flush with cash it be nice to see some of the old faces .I don't see most going to northville they use online accounts but I like cash in hand not in the mail
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The old faces are all dead,no young blood,dead game,the creek will fail miserably
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Now can the house get a bill to help horse racing passed.
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Just say it's nice to see some people the crew you hung with back before they closed .we will see what they do hopefully they can hang on till sports betting is legal here in 2013total simucast income 15million and they didn't spend 1millon in costs they do fine after it's starting a going
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Proof?
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Look it up public knowledge
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As property has only been sold. 2weeks ago sports Creek showing good signs I drove through the lot gate was open a low a behold all the high weeds a grass were gone they taken advantage of good weather a no snow signs of people working couple work vans parked outside.barn roof looked new silver plate a tractors been moved .it's not much but shows it's moving forward .
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Anyone heard of open date for simulcasting I doubt Jan 1is still planned might be too much work to do in a week
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Good news! The new adw bill will help a little.
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Nothing will help? WTF is wrong with some of you???? A handful of people will go to the simulcast,which will be worthless,and as far as the live racing? 5,6, and 7 horse fields with small purses will attract a very low handle,there is NO,I REPEAT NO chance that the creek will survive,Jesus Christ!! WTF is wrong with some of you? You can't even drink the water in that area,It's done,finished,you saw what happened at Pinnacle,it's a dead game,WISE UP!!
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It's in Swartz Creek dumbass no Flint water theyll do ok if you choose not to go check it out be my guest but I will and so will others I like money and not having to drive a hour to play
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Forgive rabi mikey
Hes not cashed a ticket since 72
And hes a lil sour! ngc3
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Nothing will help? WTF is wrong with some of you???? A handful of people will go to the simulcast,which will be worthless,and as far as the live racing? 5,6, and 7 horse fields with small purses will attract a very low handle,there is NO,I REPEAT NO chance that the creek will survive,Jesus Christ!! WTF is wrong with some of you? You can't even drink the water in that area,It's done,finished,you saw what happened at Pinnacle,it's a dead game,WISE UP!!
Nearest casino is over a hour a way.
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When and if sports book gets here there you go games sports book and more money .....but in the mean time just need to get up and going a keep people that do go happy which they will do
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FLEA MARKET ON WEEKENDS SHOULD HAVE THE PLACE BUSTLING
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They will fail miserably
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They will fail miserably
ngc3 tmbz1
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Good news! The new adw bill will help a little.
HOW?
December 28, 2018
GOVERNOR SNYDER VETOS HORSE RACING BILL
Today, Michigan Governor Rick Snyder vetoed HB 4611 as passed by the Michigan Senate last week by a vote of 35 to 3. Introduced by Rep. Dan Lauwers almost two years ago, this bill would have supported the horse racing industry in Michigan by modernizing the Horse Racing Act to support Advanced Deposit Wagering and support Michigan’s second largest industry, Agriculture
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HOW?
December 28, 2018
GOVERNOR SNYDER VETOS HORSE RACING BILL
Today, Michigan Governor Rick Snyder vetoed HB 4611 as passed by the Michigan Senate last week by a vote of 35 to 3. Introduced by Rep. Dan Lauwers almost two years ago, this bill would have supported the horse racing industry in Michigan by modernizing the Horse Racing Act to support Advanced Deposit Wagering and support Michigan’s second largest industry, Agriculture
It wont now. Snyder is a scumbag, so worried about his lotto revenue. If he had half the brain he claims to have, why wouldn't he give sports betting to the lotto like they do in Ontario.
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That's really stupid that he just did not sign the bill he's out of office and February or January anyway so they'll reintroduce the bill at that time it passed 35 to 3 so the new governor should be so inclined to sign up you would think besides that he should be brought up on charges anyway for signing off on all the changes to use the Flint water Flint River his signature is on all them documents everyone else is gone to jail or as plea agreements
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anyone know any information that knows the people involved the date for opening for simulcast I have been there and seen for myself inside the building that they are progressing nicely the workers let me in hoping to find someone in charge but no one was there their they were cleaning it out now and getting rid of all the rubbish all the TVs are gone all the fixtures are gone but when do they plan to reopen no one knew anybody have an idea they said as soon as possible or January 1st well January 1st has come and gone once the equipment reinstalled they should be good to go as in the building is in pretty good shape from what I saw when I walked in and funny thing the tables were still laid out from New year's Eve night when they closed cuz I was there me and my wife and several friends.thebfood from the buffet was good that night .
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We had the buffet I meant to say dang spell check it was very nice as a last meal .please post if anyone knows real facts not bs please thanks
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ALL DONE! https://www.abc12.com/video?vid=480306353
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ALL DONE! https://www.abc12.com/video?vid=480306353
SOLD TO POT FARMERS
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Hey rabbi your little late that news feed was in spring and new owners cleaning place out with dumpsters before remodeling a bit and all new equipment put in the only thing in question is opening date for live 26days still approved just got late start due to holding out for more money.ive been there place looks much better and no pot farmers in sight!!!!!!!!!
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Still doubt it’ll ever open up.