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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Joeb1612 on January 04, 2020, 02:20:57 AM
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Got into the Harness Business a little over 2.5 years ago My Main trainer is a total great guy and made money, totally looks out for me as I was new to the game , got another trainer did pretty good with him for about a year gave him 30 k to purchase 2 horses for 15k apiece bought 1 and was claimed and I guess basically putting it mildly stold my other 15k what is the best way to get my money back, I have proof with the cashiers ck I wrote to purchase 2 horses and many texts that said he would pay me back.
So question is how do I go about getting my money back? It happened in Ohio so does anybody know any Attorney that could help me or can I talk to the judges at the race track that he is racing at and maybe they would garnish his wages.
Any info would be helpful! I really don't want to tarnish the guys name but if he doesn't pay me soon will come out with his name as he really screwed me over and I sure as hell don't want this to happen to anybody new in the game.
You guys warned me on this site b4 I got into the Business and now I know why, I'm sure there's alot of good guys and trainers out there that don't screw you over as I said my 1st and Original I trust more than my own family but this other guy that stold my money put a bad taste in my mouth!
Any info would be helpful thanks Horse Plop!
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Go get an attorney and go to court. First call racing office also. I went thru same thing but they only got me for $4,000. I was lucky but the thieves are all out of business. That was in 2012 and still getting promised the $$$$. Lesson learned the hard way but what goes around comes around. You could try getting Guido to bend a leg or 2 or ASK Lucpark, "He's got all the answers ". The thieves aren't worth chasing because they don't have jobs.
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Name the Bastard.
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Stay out off Illinois, there are about 10 thieves located here. Some moved to Las Vegas , Ohio, Florida. Hope it isn't one of the thieves that were in Illinois. ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Doesn't surprise me at all , especially in Illinois
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Got into the Harness Business a little over 2.5 years ago My Main trainer is a total great guy and made money, totally looks out for me as I was new to the game , got another trainer did pretty good with him for about a year gave him 30 k to purchase 2 horses for 15k apiece bought 1 and was claimed and I guess basically putting it mildly stold my other 15k what is the best way to get my money back, I have proof with the cashiers ck I wrote to purchase 2 horses and many texts that said he would pay me back.
So question is how do I go about getting my money back? It happened in Ohio so does anybody know any Attorney that could help me or can I talk to the judges at the race track that he is racing at and maybe they would garnish his wages.
Any info would be helpful! I really don't want to tarnish the guys name but if he doesn't pay me soon will come out with his name as he really screwed me over and I sure as hell don't want this to happen to anybody new in the game.
You guys warned me on this site b4 I got into the Business and now I know why, I'm sure there's alot of good guys and trainers out there that don't screw you over as I said my 1st and Original I trust more than my own family but this other guy that stold my money put a bad taste in my mouth!
Any info would be helpful thanks Horse Plop!
Welcome to the wonderful world of reality.
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Not to be a total jerk, but gotta ask why an owner with less than three years in the biz, and who is happy with first trainer, goes out and gets a second one. In almost 30 years of owning, I had 3 trainers, but never two at the same time.
Having said this, I hope you get your money back.
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"My Main trainer is a total great guy and made money..."
THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU STICK WITH HIM?
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Every single owner on this worthless blog has been screwed by a trainer.
The loud mouth, 15%-make-believe-look-at-me-I'm-on-Nick's-calling-circle ones have been screwed 10x the norm.
Except Taylor. But he will contract ass cancer soon.
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Got into the Harness Business a little over 2.5 years ago My Main trainer is a total great guy and made money, totally looks out for me as I was new to the game , got another trainer did pretty good with him for about a year gave him 30 k to purchase 2 horses for 15k apiece bought 1 and was claimed and I guess basically putting it mildly stold my other 15k what is the best way to get my money back, I have proof with the cashiers ck I wrote to purchase 2 horses and many texts that said he would pay me back.
So question is how do I go about getting my money back? It happened in Ohio so does anybody know any Attorney that could help me or can I talk to the judges at the race track that he is racing at and maybe they would garnish his wages.
Any info would be helpful! I really don't want to tarnish the guys name but if he doesn't pay me soon will come out with his name as he really screwed me over and I sure as hell don't want this to happen to anybody new in the game.
You guys warned me on this site b4 I got into the Business and now I know why, I'm sure there's alot of good guys and trainers out there that don't screw you over as I said my 1st and Original I trust more than my own family but this other guy that stold my money put a bad taste in my mouth!
Any info would be helpful thanks Horse Plop!
You have to het a lawyer and take him to court for that amount if it's 5000 you coukd have done it yourself in small claims, so yoyr saying he never bought the secind horse?
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CHARLIE TUNA IF HE SWITCHED TRAINERS
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FAKE STORY. Fake news
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AND IF YOUR NOT PREPARED TO LOSE 💰 moneies
STAY OUT OF HARNESS RACING
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AQUA
STOP USING MY NAME OR FAMILY
WE DONT DO THAT..
ANY LONGER
AND YOU AINT GETTING BACK THE 4000
GRAND. BACK
SHES IN VEGAS AND YOUR EX DRIVER IS BROKE .
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If you had a trainer that you liked and was treating you well why on earth would you get a second one. Be loyal to the one treating you right and you wouldn't be in this situation.
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I have a feeling that trainer didn't have time for him, and did they buy a second horse or not? Did you owe the trainer bills? More details needed...
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Sorry to hear your man stold your money. If you have the financial records to prove your case, I would would ask to see a presiding Judge at the track you raced. The Judge should ask the trainer to come in for a sit down and go over the situation. If he sides with you he can kick it up to the Racing Commission where they may issue an order of payment. If the accused does not comply. the Commission can suspend the license of the trainer.
But before you do any of this, please sit down and write 50 times; he stole my money, he stole my money...
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Fake story
Probably didn't pay training bill a few months in the rear
GOT ASKED TO COME GET YOUR HORSES
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Fake story
Probably didn't pay training bill a few months in the rear
GOT ASKED TO COME GET YOUR HORSES
TRAINER GOT TIRED OF FEEDING THEM? ngc3 ngc3
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SENT PACKING AGREED
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i think most trainers rob thier owners
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88% do
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i think most trainers rob thier owners
You finally got one right
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Name the Bastard.
is gypsy evvah goona pay you ngc3 ngc3
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"My Main trainer is a total great guy and made money..."
THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU STICK WITH HIM?
Great question
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lets assume the facts that joeb presented are accurate
he gave trainer $30 k and they bought one horse for $15 k which then got claimed, so don't know financial details of at what price and if the horse made money and assume no training bills were owed
there is still the question of the second $15 k owed
my thoughts
1. joeb, if after a number of months the trainer had not bought the second horse you should have asked for the $15 k back , tell him when he finds a horse you will give him the money, he likely treated the $15 k that was in his bank account as his own and spent it
2. joeb , i would follow the advice the exporter provided as that is useful
3. ignore lucparks dribble
yes we all expect to lose money along the way in this business but have some fun along the way, thats different than someone stealing your money which is actually a crime
secondly what horses did you think the trainer asked him to come get, he had none with him ,the only one he had got claimed away
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FAKE STORY
LIAR...FAKE ASS NEWS ,
,IM CALLIN YOU TO POST TRAINERS NAME OR YOUR FULL OF CRAP
STIFFED TRAINER AND GOT THROWN OUT THATS THE JIST OF WHAT PROB HAPPENED
PLS POST TRAINERS NAME IF STORY IS TRUE..I HAD 3 TRAINERS IN 19 YRS OF RACING..
LOVE GUYS WHO CHANGE TRAINERS EVERY FCKIN YR,, ngc3 ngc3 CUS THEIR FEELINGS GOT HURT ngc3 ngc3
LETS CALL IT OUT
FAKE STORY FAKE NEWS
PLS PUT THIS THREAD IN OT
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lets assume the facts that joeb presented are accurate
he gave trainer $30 k and they bought one horse for $15 k which then got claimed, so don't know financial details of at what price and if the horse made money and assume no training bills were owed
there is still the question of the second $15 k owed
my thoughts
1. joeb, if after a number of months the trainer had not bought the second horse you should have asked for the $15 k back , tell him when he finds a horse you will give him the money, he likely treated the $15 k that was in his bank account as his own and spent it
2. joeb , i would follow the advice the exporter provided as that is useful
3. ignore lucparks dribble
yes we all expect to lose money along the way in this business but have some fun along the way, thats different than someone stealing your money which is actually a crime
secondly what horses did you think the trainer asked him to come get, he had none with him ,the only one he had got claimed away
lets assume the facts that joeb presented are accurate
he gave trainer $30 k and they bought one horse for $15 k which then got claimed, so don't know financial details of at what price and if the horse made money and assume no training bills were owed
there is still the question of the second $15 k owed
my thoughts
1. joeb, if after a number of months the trainer had not bought the second horse you should have asked for the $15 k back , tell him when he finds a horse you will give him the money, he likely treated the $15 k that was in his bank account as his own and spent it
2. joeb , i would follow the advice the exporter provided as that is useful
3. ignore lucparks dribble
yes we all expect to lose money along the way in this business but have some fun along the way, thats different than someone stealing your money which is actually a crime
secondly what horses did you think the trainer asked him to come get, he had none with him ,the only one he had got claimed away
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Fake story
Probably didn't pay training bill a few months in the rear
GOT ASKED TO COME GET YOUR HORSES
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To you guys saying I owed him vet bills is pure nonsense as we had a lease deal we both made money on a few of the horses that he bought for me, in regards 1 horse won like 30,000 as he won a 8,000 claiming series for a purse of 20 k which we split the 10k also the horse he claimed and we bought for 9600 and was claimed for 18, 000 which I gave him 25% bonus to him on the money I made.
In regards to switching Trainers my 1st trainer who i still have has many Horses and really did not have time to train others thus the reason I found a 2nd trainer who was great at 1st he did claim a 1 15k for horse for me and he got claimed, thus I told him to claim me another 1 or send me my money back as i would find another trainer.
This is no fake news story this is real shit the guy literally stole my 15k and said he would pay me back by the 1st of the year.
And yes the guy is from Illinois like i said I dont want to post his name he knows he did me wrong but like I said I will if he don't make any payments soon as I'm the one that totally got fucked!
So if anybody knows a good attorney were he could help and has knowledge on the horse game would greatly be appreciated!
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Very efficient trainer. Saved you time. You would have lost the 15k eventually. Should send the trainer a thank you card for getting you out with only a 15k hosing. tmbz1
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SO YOU CAME ON HER E THIS WORTHLESS BALL BUSTIN SITE
TO GET SYMPATHY AND PITY ..AND WANTED AN "atta boy"
AND WE SHOULD BE LEAVE U CUS U SAYS so ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
POST THE FCKIN TRAINERS NAME
I CALL YOUR fake ass story or post the fckin trainers name
..STOP THE BULLSHIT..
LYING MUTHERFCKER
POST THE TRAINERS NAME WHO FUCKED YOU COME ON WE WAITING
good attorney for u
dial
1-800 FAKE- STORY
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THERE IS NO TRAINER IN ILL OR ANYWHERE THAT
WANTS TO LOOSE
GOOD PAYIN OWNERS
,,SO TELL US WHY U GOT ROBBED AGAIN ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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SO YOU CAME ON HER E THIS WORTHLESS BALL BUSTIN SITE
TO GET SYMPATHY AND PITY ..AND WANTED AN "atta boy"
AND WE SHOULD BE LEAVE U CUS U SAYS so ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
POST THE FCKIN TRAINERS NAME
I CALL YOUR fake ass story or post the fckin trainers name
..STOP THE BULLSHIT..
LYING MUTHERFCKER
POST THE TRAINERS NAME WHO FUCKED YOU COME ON WE WAITING
good attorney for u
dial
1-800 FAKE- STORY
You tell 'em, Stumpie.
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SO YOU CAME ON HER E THIS WORTHLESS BALL BUSTIN SITE
50,000 posts on here......at least you know the truth......
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IF IT AINT ON PAPER IT DIDNT HAPPEN tmbz1
UNLESS NICKEY LOAVERS FILMED IT ALSO
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Name the Bastard.
Yes he is from Illinois and went to Ohio but at this moment I dont want to mention any names but 1st things 1st I am gonna talk to the Ohio Judges!
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Not to be a total jerk, but gotta ask why an owner with less than three years in the biz, and who is happy with first trainer, goes out and gets a second one. In almost 30 years of owning, I had 3 trainers, but never two at the same time.
Having said this, I hope you get your money back.
1st trainer I had had alot of horses, so when i decided to buy more horses went with other guy !
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You tell 'em, Stumpie.
FAKE STORY. Fake news
PS Note a fake story fuck off I hTHERE IS NO TRTHERE IS NO TRAINER IN ILL OR ANYWHERE THAT
WANTS TO LOOSE
Fuck u and your fake story asshole!
GOOD PAYIN OWNERS
,,SO TELL US WHY U GOT ROBBED AGAIN ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
,,SO TELL US WHY U GOT ROBBED AGAIN ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
AND IF YOUR NOT PREPARED TO LOSE 💰 moneies
STAY OUT OF HARNESS RACING
PS
AQUA
STOP USING MY NAME OR FAMILY
WE DONT DO THAT..
ANY LONGER
AND YOU AINT GETTING BACK THE 4000
GRAND. BACK
SHES IN VEGAS AND YOUR EX DRIVER IS BROKE .
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I have a feeling that trainer didn't have time for him, and did they buy a second horse or not? Did you owe the trainer bills? More details needed...
No didn't owe him a penny ever it was a lease deal were he got paid out of the purse!
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Yes he is from Illinois and went to Ohio but at this moment I dont want to mention any names but 1st things 1st I am gonna talk to the Ohio Judges!
i know every trainer in ill that went to ohio and is racing presently
gimme his age i will name your trainer,,
,fact..
if this is really the deal which i dont believe
and who the fck does leases
get of the 70's man
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1st trainer I had had alot of horses, so when i decided to buy more horses went with other guy !
Total waste of time talking to judges in ohio. All wortless yes men to to the biggest scumbag in the industry .BILL CRAWFORD... i have a judgement against a scumbag owner and ohio did NOTHING. Let scum owner put horses in his wifes name. Business as usual. You are wasting time and money trying to get spent money back
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ONCE YOU ARE HOSED, YOU STAY HOSED
WE KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF TOWN
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G G Limbo tmbz1
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Gypsy's pal, The guy she fucked so he would jog her horses, oops, who didn't she f***, still F*****a guy in Las Vegas. Hahaha ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Lucpark KNOWS who the guy is
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I got my money back from your friend , IRA. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3