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Title: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Locked in with pace on August 31, 2020, 06:50:17 AM
If the NJ governor does not put in the $20 million dollars subsidy for racing , will the Meadownlands shut down.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: NJ Observer on August 31, 2020, 07:04:43 AM
YOU RACE TWICE A WEEK, HANDLE $2-3 MILLION PER CARD, AND YOU SHUTTER THE SWAMP IF YOU DON'T GET A HANDOUT? THIS GOOFRAL REALLY CAN JUGGLE THE BOOKS!!! THE MEDS HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS NEARLY 45 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN ON FAKE LIFE SUPPORT EVER SINCE THIS REAL ESTATE HUSTLER TOOK OVER!!! AT THIS POINT BERNIE MADOFF COULD'VE FOUND A WAY TO TURN A BUCK VS. GOOFRAL!!!
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 31, 2020, 07:15:17 AM
YOU RACE TWICE A WEEK, HANDLE $2-3 MILLION PER CARD, AND YOU SHUTTER THE SWAMP IF YOU DON'T GET A HANDOUT? THIS GOOFRAL REALLY CAN JUGGLE THE BOOKS!!! THE MEDS HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS NEARLY 45 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN ON FAKE LIFE SUPPORT EVER SINCE THIS REAL ESTATE HUSTLER TOOK OVER!!! AT THIS POINT BERNIE MADOFF COULD'VE FOUND A WAY TO TURN A BUCK VS. GOOFRAL!!!





Thank you.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on August 31, 2020, 10:37:22 AM
Starting to think Goooooffffrrrrraa aallllll might have some blackie in him. Always wants welfare, always crying and whining  11.wp 11.wp

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Somebody better start checking Mr JewLie's birth certificate  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: silent one on August 31, 2020, 11:55:06 AM
If Goofball doesn't get the subsidies does that mean he still can keep the sports book and shutter the horse racing. I'm not familiar with NJ politics.

   I predict there will still be racing at the Pig M, but at greatly reduced purses. I also predict that Gural will blame everyone else but him.

     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Red4455 on August 31, 2020, 12:08:55 PM
very interested on how many of you have met Mr. Gural in person and spent time discussing the sport he loves Harness Racing ?

In any and all my many dealings with Mr. Gural have been extremely positive.
He is always willing to listen.

Before you bash, it would be nice if you knew the person you feel hatred for.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: LUCPARK on August 31, 2020, 12:29:24 PM
Then if the purses are greatly reduced I would think some of the drivers and trainers would be looking to move possibly to WEG.

Canadian dollar is weak

amounts to the same as racin for cheap purses at bigm

look for the Midwest to get a few drivers

especially ohio

Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Calhoun on August 31, 2020, 12:47:57 PM
very interested on how many of you have met Mr. Gural in person and spent time discussing the sport he loves Harness Racing ?

In any and all my many dealings with Mr. Gural have been extremely positive.
He is always willing to listen.

Before you bash, it would be nice if you knew the person you feel hatred for.
In the end, he's a greedy Jew, born on third base thinking he hit a triple. 

Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: SAW on August 31, 2020, 01:24:34 PM
WOW what is wrong with some of you people?


1st - Being Jewish should have nothing to do with this conversation.

2nd - Hush your not funny! your just plain SAD!

3rd - Where has Gural said that he would close the Meadowlands if the subsidy is removed?

4th - Ever other track gets their subsidy automatically, they dont have to beg for it, and what the Meadowlands gets is a fraction of what goes to other tracks.

5th - Its not a done deal that is will be removed (but I feel it probable will be removed because of covid induced tax shortages)

6th - The subsidy doesn't go to Gural it goes to the track and horsemen through purses.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on August 31, 2020, 02:01:44 PM
WOW what is wrong with some of you people?


1st - Being Jewish should have nothing to do with this conversation.

2nd - Hush your not funny! your just plain SAD!

3rd - Where has Gural said that he would close the Meadowlands if the subsidy is removed?

4th - Ever other track gets their subsidy automatically, they dont have to beg for it, and what the Meadowlands gets is a fraction of what goes to other tracks.

5th - Its not a done deal that is will be removed (but I feel it probable will be removed because of covid induced tax shortages)

6th - The subsidy doesn't go to Gural it goes to the track and horsemen through purses.

Which allows Pinky Downs to remain open, AND for Goooooooffffrrrrr aaaaallllll to turn a profit. So PLEASE don't tell us GOOOOOOOFFFFRRRAA AALLLLL does not benefit from the subsidy  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: SAW on August 31, 2020, 02:52:03 PM
Which allows Pinky Downs to remain open, AND for Goooooooffffrrrrr aaaaallllll to turn a profit. So PLEASE don't tell us GOOOOOOOFFFFRRRAA AALLLLL does not benefit from the subsidy  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

WRONG as usual............ .

Without the subsidy the purses would just be smaller and Gural loses money either way!!!

So take you whip snaps and be wrong somewhere else.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Dingus on August 31, 2020, 02:59:38 PM
I also predict that Gural will blame everyone else but him.

     Sincerely, Silent One

Sort of like the current President.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: bostonborne on August 31, 2020, 06:28:54 PM
Sort of like the current President.

Idiot
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Dingus on August 31, 2020, 08:09:36 PM
Idiot

Who else says “I take no responsibility for any of this”?
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: silent one on August 31, 2020, 09:12:27 PM
Who else says “I take no responsibility for any of this”?

  Sir, while I am in complete agreement with you on your opinion, I do have several answers to your question.
 
   1. Harness Trainers
   2. Harness Drivers
   3. Harness Owners
   4. State Racing Officials.
   5. Track Management

     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: slivercharm on August 31, 2020, 09:17:13 PM
Completely agree with your post. The stupidity, racism, and overall jealousy on this site never ceases to amaze. As if Gural being Jewish has anything to do with it. The meadowlands gets a VERY SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get. Jealous bitches.

So because other tracks get subsidies the meadowlands is entitled to as well???

3 dancing bananas for the worst logic I’ve seen on plops in a while

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Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on August 31, 2020, 09:18:44 PM
Completely agree with your post. The stupidity, racism, and overall jealousy on this site never ceases to amaze. As if Gural being Jewish has anything to do with it. The meadowlands gets a VERY SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get. Jealous bitches.
You Anti Semite bastard! You will rot in Hell
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: silent one on August 31, 2020, 09:43:56 PM
Completely agree with your post. The stupidity, racism, and overall jealousy on this site never ceases to amaze. As if Gural being Jewish has anything to do with it. The meadowlands gets a VERY SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get. Jealous bitches.

  The meadowlands gets a VERY SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get.

   WOW!! Chrystal Meth is a hell of a drug. New Jersey, I believe, gave $20 MILLION to be split between t-breds, and standardbreds. There are 2 so called harness tracks in NJ. Even if you were to believe The Pig M, and Freeholdyournose got $5 million each, which I don't, how in the hell could anyone with a functioning brain could think $5 Million is a VERy SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get? Under your logic, the owners of Cal Expo ,and Bangor must be getting about $60 Million each. Thank you for your opinion, but I would suggest you call the Jethro Bodine school of accounting, and ask for a refund.

    Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: SAW on August 31, 2020, 10:06:24 PM
  The meadowlands gets a VERY SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get.

   WOW!! Chrystal Meth is a hell of a drug. New Jersey, I believe, gave $20 MILLION to be split between t-breds, and standardbreds. There are 2 so called harness tracks in NJ. Even if you were to believe The Pig M, and Freeholdyournose got $5 million each, which I don't, how in the hell could anyone with a functioning brain could think $5 Million is a VERy SMALL FRACTION of what other tracks get? Under your logic, the owners of Cal Expo ,and Bangor must be getting about $60 Million each. Thank you for your opinion, but I would suggest you call the Jethro Bodine school of accounting, and ask for a refund.

    Sincerely, Silent One

You can cherry pick your numbers if you want to be dishonest!

Here is a good comparison...... Pennsylvania gave their racing industry $242,000,000 last year, compare that to New Jersey's 20,000,000, so yes I call that a fraction.

Maybe you should get your refund from the Jethro Bodine school of accounting!
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 31, 2020, 10:26:05 PM
You can cherry pick your numbers if you want to be dishonest!

Here is a good comparison...... Pennsylvania gave their racing industry $242,000,000 last year, compare that to New Jersey's 20,000,000, so yes I call that a fraction.

Maybe you should get your refund from the Jethro Bodine school of accounting!

You could look at that another way, the 242mm was what the pa horsemwn negotiated to allow alternate forms of gaming in their state.

The meadowlands begged for a subsidy because they failed in obtaining a casino for themselves.

Not exactly a fair comp
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: Dingus on September 01, 2020, 12:16:35 AM
You could look at that another way, the 242mm was what the pa horsemwn negotiated to allow alternate forms of gaming in their state.

The meadowlands begged for a subsidy because they failed in obtaining a casino for themselves.

Not exactly a fair comp

On the other hand, there are no casinos allowed outside Atlantic City, so everybody failed to get 1.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: NJ The best on September 01, 2020, 08:47:31 AM
Bottom line he will have racing with a cut of the purses of about 30% no big deal. He will still get full fields and all the top drivers will be there . Where else are they going?  Most go to Chester everyday and pocono and Timmy , Dexter, corey, Andrew all go to Dover as well.  So nothings changing . Hell They will go to Freehold as well as witnessed by this weekend. They are locusts. 
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: The Exporter on September 01, 2020, 12:02:02 PM
Bottom line, they go where the money goes.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: bostonborne on September 01, 2020, 02:00:24 PM
NJ has a 10B projected deficit in 2021. There is zero chance a 20m subsidy get approved. They better figure out how to survive off handle + sports betting revenue.

If not they are toast.
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: slivercharm on September 01, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
NJ has a 10B projected deficit in 2021. There is zero chance a 20m subsidy get approved. They better figure out how to survive off handle + sports betting revenue.

If not they are toast.

Handle  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

It’s fucking fake

2/3 of the handle is done by computers and does 0000 for purses
Title: Re: Sports betting and the Meadowlands
Post by: SAW on September 01, 2020, 09:43:53 PM
Handle  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

It’s fucking fake

2/3 of the handle is done by computers and does 0000 for purses


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