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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: In front on March 22, 2018, 06:44:39 PM
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Rumor has it he’s gone, does anyone know why ?
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He's going to grow more facial hair.
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Wife takin over ngc3
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Wife takin over ngc3
Wife taking over every man she sees.
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Headed to Pennsylvania to Windgate
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He will do good as long as he leaves the driving to the pros.
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Breaking out on his own
didn't he try that a few years ago?
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Wife taking over every man she sees.
I heard she likes the young studs
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A new leading trainer
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worked for ray shnickter
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Is that not Josh Marks new beard?? I saw Dowse down to train a sire stakes horse with morrill jr down to drive. Also his wife is very sexy so atleast he has that.
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Word is just a beard for Joshie, watch some of his steeds run off
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Word is just a beard for Joshie, watch some of his steeds run off
is josh everybody?
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Yes rumor is he is the beard for josh right now
Has a bunch of nyss stock
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HE IS JOSH,,,,1000% FACT
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Who the fuck cares ? This game is anything goes especially in Pennsylvania where he’s up against master blasters
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is josh everybody?
Is Josh, Spartacus? 76za.dcg
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He has mainly NY Breds
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He has mainly NY Breds
Thanks
We had no idea
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Thanks
We had no idea
I ALWAYS SAID YOU ARE ONE CLUELESS FUCK
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Who the fuck cares ? This game is anything goes especially in Pennsylvania where he’s up against master blasters
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Exactly
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HE JUST HAS NO CLUE
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HE JUST HAS NO CLUE
YOUR FAKE STABLE OF YEARS AGO WILL HAUNT YOU FOREVER
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YOUR FAKE STABLE OF YEARS AGO WILL HAUNT YOU FOREVER
Your bank book or lack of one haunts you coop boy
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How’s the juice of dowse/ marks doing against the masterblasters?
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How’s the juice of dowse/ marks doing against the masterblasters?
He will hold his own until he gets popped,,,but they won't sweep his under the rug
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tetrick must have thought he was on a live Dowse one in the 10th at chester today ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Your bank book or lack of one haunts you coop boy
I SELL MY PALM TREES AND BUY YOU OUT BURGER KING
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tetrick must have thought he was on a live Dowse one in the 10th at chester today ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
After the 9th I don’t blame him....
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HE IS JOSH,,,,1000% FACT
WHERE ARE THEY STABLED?
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Please the past 2 Sunday’s 5 favorites for the dowse crew each Sunday 1 win each day ! Lots of money being burned
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WHERE ARE THEY STABLED?
IDK ,,,,THEY SHIP TO POCONO,,,,FROM NY
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IDK ,,,,THEY SHIP TO POCONO,,,,FROM NY
SO YOUR JUST BLABBING AGAIN
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I SAW THEM SHIPPING IN,,,,,,,NOW QUIT STALKING ME,,,,,AND GO RAKE THE COOP OUT
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Keep betting Dowse maybe he will get hot one week, you might be buried by then.
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Do you think they gas up the babies ????
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Do you think they gas up the babies ????
DEFINE "GAS" JOE....AS A RULE NOBODY DOES UNLESS THEY BEGIN GETTING SORE, AND MANY GET SORE tmbz1
GAS IS ALSO A RELATIVE TERM USED MOSTLY BY BETTORS AND NOT HORSEMEN
COOP BOY HAS SPOKEN
HAVE A GOOD DAY FATMAN tmbz1
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WHERE ARE THEY STABLED?
Wind Gap PA
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not much of a factor honestly at this point .
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Has a very good one in at Yonkers tonight,,, watch and bet don’t be shy
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yeah , crawfords bought in .
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score
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3-5..... empty
good tmbz1
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TERRIBLE STEER BY JASON,,,,,,
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How is the great Dowse doing? Burning money , lots of it .
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Pressure will get to Dowse soon and he'll just be another Tom Millici, etc. Guys that couldn't teach a dog to bark and then suddenly looked like trainers for a short time!
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I know he can’t drive,,,, train????,,,,,,,Beard he is very good
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You forgot his 2 pa all stars that at poc on Sunday
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He is actually heating up the past week , cheap claims raced better the 2 colts were awesome
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Why nothing on the Shnitker- dowse saga ? true or not , marks caught ? should they suspend all owners ? i say yes
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no
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Anyone know the Josh story from Pocono last week? Rumor is caught in paddock yelling at a driver after a Dowse horse got beat! And horses getting shipped out of Dowse barn by the trailer load today
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Marks called Ray. Ray invited Josh to Goshen to break every bone in his body. Marks sent texts about tubin this one n that one. Certain parties received texts. Bluechip, HT and others pulling all their horses.
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Sure, now that his cover is officially blown, all the high and mighty scurry like rats. I would hope Toscano would stand at the barn door and tell Ken to keep going. Blue Chip hired this outlaw as well as the Barister, Taylor. Good for Ray.
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GARTH DOWSED IS DUNN NOW
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HERES THE ARTICLE:
https://www.harnessracing.com/news/main/prominent-owners-move-horses-from-dowse-7-13-2019?fbclid=IwAR0dApnZSbBfOdpdxdJdQs9dUzWQx9FT_fKrq8oFmxX8KCY3WIMSW3jabB0
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(http://i68.tinypic.com/14uuhd2.jpg)
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TAYLOR ADMITS KNOWING MARKS AND DOWSE WORKED TOGETHER AND HAD HORSES WITH DOWSE DURING THIS TIME. THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION IS........ ngc3
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You just can't make this shit up, Let me get this straight Howard Taylor is admitting he knew about the the Dowse/Marks connection. He knew they were cheating the system, and he comes off all holier than thou. What are the state commissions and USTA going to say? How about Jeff Gural? Think Howard spoke to quick and stuck his foot in his mouth.
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Prominent owners move horses from Dowse
July 13, 2019
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Harnessracing.com has learned two prominent Standardbred owners have taken horses from trainer Gareth Dowse following an incident at The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono on Monday night.
Ray Schnittker won a PA All Stars on Monday night with Can’t Say No and when he went into the winner’s circle he was bombarded by obscenities by horseman Josh Marks. Marks followed it up with what Schnittker described as “crazy” text messages. "He made up stuff up," added Schnittker.
“I don’t know what the hell happened to make him do that,” said Schnittker. “I won the race and he’s yelling at me in the winner’s circle. The woman that drove the groom down to the winner’s circle heard him and called security. Then (Marks) got a ride back to the barn area with someone and went in there even though he’s unlicensed.”
Marks, who hasn’t held a US Trotting Association license since 2011, is also unlicensed in Pennsylvania.
“Security got involved, and he got into it with a security guard at the casino too I guess,” added Schnittker of the incident with Marks, who is believed by many to be using “beards.”
Schnittker’s former employee Gareth Dowse now trains horses and has been rumored to be one of those associated with Marks.
“I was really disappointed that Gareth starting working with Josh,” said Schnittker.
Through July 11, horses listed as trained by Dowse had made 118 starts, giving him a UTRS of .480, fourth highest for all trainers, regardless of number of starts.
Leading owner Howard Taylor has had horses with Dowse, but moved them following the Marks incident at Pocono Monday night.
“I know Josh and Gareth worked together,” said Taylor from Bermuda, where he was vacationing with his family. “I’ve known Josh a lot of years and like Josh and Tracy (Brainard, Marks’ wife). But there’s a limit to what you can take, I guess.”
In the week before Linda Toscano was inducted into the Hall of Fame, her longtime owner Ken Jacobs moved several horses from her stable to Dowse.
Following the Marks incident, he moved the horses back to her stable.
In other integrity-related news out of Pennsylvania, on July 2 Brainard was issued an indefinite suspension by the Pennsylvania State Harness Racing Commission for failing to pay a $10,000 fine as part of a penalty when her horse “First Class Horse tested positive for JWH-250 (Synthetic Cannabis).”
Also, the Pennsylvania commission has issued Dave McNeight Jr. a $10,000 fine and 365-day suspension for a December 2018 positive test for EPO on the horse Knocking Around. McNeight waived his right to an appeal and the ruling is final, with the suspension to begin on June 29, 2020. In April of this year McNeight was fined $5,000 and given a 722-day suspension—-to run from May 7, 2019, through April 27, 2021--because during an inspection by commission agents, “he removed an item from the barn without allowing the item to be searched, fled the scene, and in doing so, put the personal safety of a Commission Investigator in jeopardy.” Some horsemen believe McNeight Jr. is already using a “beard.”
And in Michigan, Ed Zubkoff Jr. has been fined $10,000 and given a 184-day suspension for a positive test for fentanyl with the horse McCluckey, who won a race at Northville Downs on April 20, 2019. The ruling stated, “A Settlement Agreement was signed July 8, 2019, where the parties agreed to the following: a six-month suspension of Mr. Zubkoff Jr.’s occupational licenses beginning July 27, 2019 and ending January 26, 2020; a $10,000.00 fine; Edward Zubkoff Jr. agreed to never seek licensing under the Michigan Horse Racing law of 1995.”--harnessracing.com
Why dont they put this crack head Marks out of the business for good ?
Mcneight Jr is using a beard, Kenny Koch. Is he really that arrogant to think he will be able to pull this off?
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“Timber!!!!” tmbz1
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It was not josh
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It was not josh
And it was not O.J. and I bet you voted for Marion Barry , too.
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Josh did this no way
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And it was not O.J. and I bet you voted for Marion Barry , too.
no
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It was not josh
SECURITY SED SO...SORRY PORKY
AND...NOBODY IN GRANDSTANDS BUT JOSH
NOBODY 73cv.2
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SECURITY SED SO...SORRY PORKY
AND...NOBODY IN GRANDSTANDS BUT JOSH
NOBODY 73cv.2
he couldn't blend in?
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he couldn't blend in?
NOT UNLESS HE LOOKED LIKE A BENCH SEAT
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NOT UNLESS HE LOOKED LIKE A BENCH SEAT
im crying
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josh dont lie
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josh dont lie
That’s a fact.
Snichter must have done Josh wrong, I blame Ray
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IM SURE NOBODY KNEW ABOUT JOSH/GARRETT,,,,,,,,ON SUPER STEAKS NIGHT ,,,SIMPSON WAS TELLING JOSH GLAD YOUR HORSES ARE RACING WELLL,,,,,GOOD LUCK AT THE SALE THIS YEAR,,,,,,
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ANd Schnittker fed up with Beard trainers and regulators doing nothing about it
https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru071519.pdf
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Top breeder in New York, Blue Chip is complacent in this ongoing deception and cheating. Quincy Blue Chip, who is owned by Blue Chip Bloodstock Inc. and trained by Gareth Dowse, had a slight lead as they reached the stretch. Winndevie gave everything she had but Quincy Blue Chip was too strong and won in a lifetime best of 1:53.2. Winndevie settled for second with Amal Hall getting third place.
How can anyone have trust in an organization that hires an outlaw and race under an assumed name?
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Josh is in Florida with Tracey and the kids. He has always had a drinking issue, bi- polar and a complete hot head at times. He has ruined a great thing many times for himself and needs professional help which he refuses . He in fact did all that is printed and got on a plane after another of his long list of bi- polar issues. Very sad . Gareth and his wife are hard working people who hopefully can keep some of the stable going om there own.
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On there own???? They wouldn’t have a stable if not for J M
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WILL RAYS COMPLAINTS DO ANYTHING?
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Still nothing on usta website, Ray is on the board. Everybody knows this is happening. Howard Taylor knew of the relationship, Blue Chip has to know. Ken Jacobs had to know. NO INTEGRITY!!!!!!!!! Were the horses raced this weekend under the care of Dowse or had they been moved. If they were moved they should have been scratched. Linda should have had some class and told Jacobs give those to someone else, but she too went along with the bullshit.
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Don’t hold your breath waiting for any king of statement from USTA.
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How about Jenn Bon Bon? Girl is desk jockey at Meadowlands and next thing you know she has 60 head and bats .400?
whydo t they write about jenn
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josh wil always be a friend
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Ray is a Rat , Herve said never talk to him stay away . The Mob would have killed him for being a rat
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Ray didn't say anything till Josh got in his face a week ago. Josh should have shut up, and walked away (not to barn area) he caused his own problems, no one else to blame but himself.
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Time the industry takes out the garbage....and do some work for a change.
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It was not josh
fuk you pigland. you are a true piece of shit.
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Ray is a Rat , Herve said never talk to him stay away . The Mob would have killed him for being a rat
typical horsemens mentality. no problem taking it up the ass from known cheaters becuz theyre your friends. horsemen literally let these types steal money from them and they are ok with it :1 :1 :1
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fuk you pigland. you are a true piece of shit.
go back to the country you came from
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How does this even get onto the grounds
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A friend in need is a friend indeed....
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go back to the country you came from
you want to start a fight with me? bring it. from the days of barn to wire ive been reading your incoherent bullshit. ive been in this business 40 years. worked for the greatest ever. from joe Obrien to Heinz wewering, look up his stats.. and you are the biggest piece of shit other than josh marks ive ever had to deal with. you want some of me, im not hard to find. everytime I read a post from you you will get a big fuk you because a small piece of shit like you deserves it. go fuk yourself. ii will be the most action you hve had in years.
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you want to start a fight with me? bring it. from the days of barn to wire ive been reading your incoherent bullshit. ive been in this business 40 years. worked for the greatest ever. from joe Obrien to Heinz wewering, look up his stats.. and you are the biggest piece of shit other than josh marks ive ever had to deal with. you want some of me, im not hard to find. everytime I read a post from you you will get a big fuk you because a small piece of shit like you deserves it. go fuk yourself. ii will be the most action you hve had in years.
the. you remember this GSAC
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You know your calling out the forum all mighty one here. He's got connections! 73cv.2
you better ask somebody
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Why doesn't Tracy pay the 10k fine already?
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the. you remember this GSAC
hcx.1 hcx.1 hcx.1 hcx.1
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THOSE TEXT MESSAGES MUST HAVE BEEN CLASSIC
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hcx.1 hcx.1 hcx.1 hcx.1
ty
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where is this jerk off kidding guy
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Why doesn't Tracy pay the 10k fine already?
Good question
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Good question
ehy should she? burke never pays
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HAS DOWSE BEEN EXPOSED OR IS THIS GLAUCINE REVISITED?
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HE IS JOSH,,,,1000% FACT
JOE KNOWS tmbz1
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where is this jerk off kidding guy
BAHAMAS?
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where is this jerk off kidding guy
IM SORRY I MEANT BERMUDA
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IM SORRY I MEANT BERMUDA
only kidding
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only kidding
wheres swoop
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wheres swoop
BERMUDA OR HANS WERING SHED
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Please obvious blue chip
Just sold for 350 k there not crying . Jacobs made a 100k in 3 weeks with pigs Toscano couldn’t get to pace . Everyone made money off josh . Ray lives in a glass house definitely not an angel . Rat fink is more like it . I say park his shit bags weekly .
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JOSH SEEMS TO BE A TROUBLED YOUNG MAN. STALKING RAY WAS A DUMB, DUMB, MOVE.
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The irony in the unlicensed trainer is now, he operates unregulated. As an outlaw, there is little deterrent to their craft. As a matter of fact, the unlicensed, skillful chemist is in high demand. Double talking bullshitters like Howard Taylor, has been working this way for many years.
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JOSH SEEMS TO BE A TROUBLED YOUNG MAN. STALKING RAY WAS A DUMB, DUMB, MOVE.
I don't know him but Ray seems like the type of guy not to mess around with
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I don't know him but Ray seems like the type of guy not to mess around with
I don't think he has a neck
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yes since Ray is a well known Rat since his days of double dealing on yearlings, tubing in the shed row, paying off security guards this guy was no good then he suddenly becomes mr.clean give me a break and guess what i could drive that little piece of shit through a wall anytime . So tell Ray that but be careful since hes been a rat for 20 years. Josh is no better than Ray and even worse because of his drinking problem, but Ray is the guy who ran to everyone with this story.
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Ray didn't start this, Josh had to do the stupid shit to Ray in the winners circle and then the texts. Going to the barn area had nothing to do with Ray. Josh is an ok guy with a number of problems that just got worse. I wonder how long it will take for Howard to get involved again. Tracy should just pay the 10k and get her license back.
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Ray didn't start this, Josh had to do the stupid shit to Ray in the winners circle and then the texts. Going to the barn area had nothing to do with Ray. Josh is an ok guy with a number of problems that just got worse. I wonder how long it will take for Howard to get involved again. Tracy should just pay the 10k and get her license back.
She might need the 10k for divorce attorneys
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She might need the 10k for divorce attorneys
tracy is not in need
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Tracey has been flipping houses and is done with the horse game. Probably the only reason she hasn’t paid it . There’s no doubt she has the cash. She is 100% the opposite of Josh
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Tracey has been flipping houses and is done with the horse game. Probably the only reason she hasn’t paid it . There’s no doubt she has the cash. She is 100% the opposite of Josh
very good girl
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BUT WHEN IF SHE GONNA PAY THE 10K,,,
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i could be wrong but wasn't there a beard involved with paul doherty and scnittker years back. not that it makes it right to have beards today but this has been going on for years.
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i could be wrong but wasn't there a beard involved with paul doherty and scnittker years back. not that it makes it right to have beards today but this has been going on for years.
SPOT ON tmbz1
I WAS A BEARD AND WENT DOWN THE DRAIN FOR A BIG GUY MYSELF
TOODLES TO DOWSE IS MY GUESS, UNLESS SLIME COMES ALONG WITH CASH AND STOCK, WICH HAPPENS DAILY IN THIS RACKET tmbz1
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SPOT ON tmbz1
I WAS A BEARD AND WENT DOWN THE DRAIN FOR A BIG GUY MYSELF
TOODLES TO DOWSE IS MY GUESS, UNLESS SLIME COMES ALONG WITH CASH AND STOCK, WICH HAPPENS DAILY IN THIS RACKET tmbz1
Maybe ray will hire him back at discount
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Maybe ray will hire him back at discount
COULD INDEED HAPPEN...RODE FOR A GUY MYSELF, THEN WOUND UP WITH PITCHFORK MYSELF tmbz1...DONT ASK- LONG STORY
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snitches usually have something to hide
im not taking sides cus i really dont care,,
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but snitches hurt the sport,,,
just get a better product and beat the other guys prerace stop fuckin cryin and bitchn and snitching.....
if u cant find a better chemist..dont hurt the other guy look in the mirror the mirror will never lie..1-800 call chem.......
harness today is mostly made up of chemists,,
truth hurts but just facts,
if you aint preracing you aint winning...
oats and grain and jugs can only go so far,,,
jmvfho
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sad but very true its not rays job to rat it is the judges and joe farolda to catch the. d
rugs and beards
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how hard would it be to catch jenn bendgorno sun tanning instead of training
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how hard would it be to catch jenn bendgorno sun tanning instead of training
Do you have any pictures ?
Sun tanning not training.
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I guess we should all do whats been happening for years, look the other way. It's time to clean out the trash, police our selves. Ray didn't start this, Josh did, and he did it to himself, all he had to do was shut up and stay off the tracks. Dumb move! Gareth just like all the guys that took falls for Bill Robinson.
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The commissions not doing anything for years just gave Josh a loose rope. A lot of people have had enough. Ray just stepped on the end of the rope after Josh lost it.. Most knew he was a time bomb.
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What positive does Josh have since 2010? The answer is he doesnt have any. Look it up on the usta website he has a suspension for personal behavior and he hasnt held any type of license in 4 years. So if i go and have a few beers and tell Ray hes a Rat fink over the fence while hes standing there whos going to do what? Besides me planting that short stubby piece of shit .
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Even without being licensed he fucked up, Tracy had more than one hot test and she is still suspended for not paying the 10k fine. Again I still say this isn't on Ray it's all on Josh, If he isn't yapping ove the fence no one would have said anything it would have just gone on like it has since he got suspended.
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Ray is a dwarf, a dwarf who suffers from tiny mans syndrome to the max. Ray needs to be band, as soon as possible
Your pal Joe
(https://i.imgur.com/pbGLj1C.jpg)
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Amazing Josh Marks was tossed in 2011.... yet he remains everyone’s “ go to “ guy and is one of the most important connected men in the business. Maybe they should let him back in since he seems to running the show for several large operations.
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Ray is a dwarf, a dwarf who suffers from tiny mans syndrome to the max. Ray needs to be band, as soon as possible
Your pal Joe
(https://i.imgur.com/pbGLj1C.jpg)
Band, as in Playing In The Band.
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Gareth has NO horses in to go...
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Gareth has NO horses in to go...
TALENTED YOUNG TRAINER
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TALENTED YOUNG TRAINER
tmbz1
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Dispersal obviously
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Amazing Josh Marks was tossed in 2011.... yet he remains everyone’s “ go to “ guy and is one of the most important connected men in the business. Maybe they should let him back in since he seems to running the show for several large operations.
Good point
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Yeah, Josh Marks is a real bad guy to have in the game. He wants to win every race he's in, it's never a guessing game for the gambling public. He puts his money where his mouth is at the windows and increases handle. Terrible guy. The bearding that is well known and the perception issue with it is much better for the industry.
Marks' lot is as bad as Hollendorfer's on the thoroughbred side. You tree-hugger purists will raise the issue of positive tests and his behavioral issues caused by his mental illness, but if those are the two measuring sticks by which we allow or disallow people in the sport, there wouldn't be many with licenses. I'm all for licensing him. Hit him hard when the positive tests and other infractions come. Otherwise, go nuts (no pun intended) Josh! We need more people that want to win, that are competitive, passionate, obsessed and like to bet.
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Dear DeeJennerate
I was very amused by your post.....especial ly the statement
"He wants to win every race he's in"
My quote would be ...…."he wants to win every race HE BETS"...……….he is good for the mutuels ! I agree. He is not a good loser
His horses do not last long...…..lucky to be still racing after 2 years.
And you spoke of "positive tests"................. ..........
Based on your comments......you better make sure YOU don't get tested. You must be on drugs.
Josh Marks is NOT good for the business. He is not even good for himself. What a waste of a life !
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cornishcomish tmbz1
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Yeah, Josh Marks is a real bad guy to have in the game. He wants to win every race he's in, it's never a guessing game for the gambling public. He puts his money where his mouth is at the windows and increases handle. Terrible guy. The bearding that is well known and the perception issue with it is much better for the industry.
Marks' lot is as bad as Hollendorfer's on the thoroughbred side. You tree-hugger purists will raise the issue of positive tests and his behavioral issues caused by his mental illness, but if those are the two measuring sticks by which we allow or disallow people in the sport, there wouldn't be many with licenses. I'm all for licensing him. Hit him hard when the positive tests and other infractions come. Otherwise, go nuts (no pun intended) Josh! We need more people that want to win, that are competitive, passionate, obsessed and like to bet.
A positive test seems to be your only standard of character. All other behaviors are acceptable? More people have been denied a license for not meeting the standards of morals than those with a history of positives.
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He was tossed only on paper, the reality is he seems to be the main man for several large well known operations... he’s never been more heavily involved in the business. Sad fact is harness racing is dying a slow death and they need horses and “ helpers” like Marks to help slow the bleeding of a wounded business overall.
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The man was barred from participating on any level 7 years ago. In that time, what has he done to correct the behavior that got him in this situation? It looks like he doubled on the same crap that got him tossed.
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High profile owners seemed to have had no reservations about having Marks handle their horses. What does that say about them? Especially those that yanked stock away from Hall of Fame types to give to a known beard. Truly disgusting.
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High profile owners seemed to have had no reservations about having Marks handle their horses. What does that say about them? Especially those that yanked stock away from Hall of Fame types to give to a known beard. Truly disgusting.
tmbz1 tmbz1
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Marks is 1000x worse than Hollendorfer Get a clue
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Dear DeeJennerate
I was very amused by your post.....especial ly the statement
"He wants to win every race he's in"
My quote would be ...…."he wants to win every race HE BETS"...……….he is good for the mutuels ! I agree. He is not a good loser
His horses do not last long...…..lucky to be still racing after 2 years.
And you spoke of "positive tests"................. ..........
Based on your comments......you better make sure YOU don't get tested. You must be on drugs.
Josh Marks is NOT good for the business. He is not even good for himself. What a waste of a life !
So, so, so many statements on this forum are generated by perception only. Waste of a life? I bet he likes his life just fine. I bet the people that matter to him don't consider him a waste of a life. Why waste of a life? I'm curious...
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agree 100 %.... he is a reason this "sport" swirls the toilet every day.
Sorry, but he's not.
It swirls in the toilet everyday because of poor governance, public perception issues with stiffing, eat-your-young mentalities of the majority of the participants (mentalities which are also particularly prevalent on this forum) and an overall lack of regard for the bettor. When it comes to Josh Marks and beards in general, one falls into one of two categories: those chronics like us who know about it and bet accordingly and those who don't and those folks don't know the difference and don't really move the dial on handle or the sport in general anyway.
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Marks is 1000x worse than Hollendorfer Get a clue
Why? Because you say so? Come with some facts, not just your opinion. Everyone's got one of those. Hollendorfer's had multiple, multiple positive tests, has broken the rules, cheated, had horses die, horses that crash when they go to a non-Hollendorfer trainer. How's he any better than Josh Marks? Because he isn't loud or bi-polar? Please explain. I'll agree if you can convince me, but I just don't feel like they're that different in terms of their racing resumes.
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Thanks for the diatribe on the life and times of Josh Marks As the 2 dollar better that you are I can see why cashing those 2-5 winners are very important to you Hollendorfer forgot more yesterday than your boy has learned in a lifetime Again why is that 10k fine still out there He let his wife take the fall for him SAD
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Where is Hollendorfers death rate any higher than the national average? Why didn't they go after Baffert? In standardbred racing theres no handle and casino money rules over everything Nobody makes waves Beards rule Joshie does whatever he wants to There not 1 track that has any balls He should get what Dutrow got
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Thanks for the diatribe on the life and times of Josh Marks As the 2 dollar better that you are I can see why cashing those 2-5 winners are very important to you Hollendorfer forgot more yesterday than your boy has learned in a lifetime Again why is that 10k fine still out there He let his wife take the fall for him SAD
That forgetfulness you mentioned, is that like you forgot proper spelling and grammar? How someone could get "diatribe" right but misspell "bettor" (as in a person whom gambles, not as in I would feel "better" if you didn't reply to me ever again you fucking simpleton).
Josh Marks is not my boy. I've never met the man. Does having an opinion that differs from prevailing one about him make him "my boy"? That's sensible.
Oh, you should know, too, that I bet low six figures every year, so a two dollar bettor I am not.
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Degenerate for a guy that has no connection to marks you sure got your panties in a bunch defending the guy. Seeing that your a six figure player you should be a little more well informed. But like any other poster that is exposed the start in with the insults . grammer,race etc. Show up to Batavia on nyss finals night will be glad to meet a whale like you. Untill then to quote the great PIGLAND GSAC. ps. could we see your tax returns just release them with the Donalds. As far as my grammer goes I am doing it all on an eight grade education.
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As a Bettor MR DG you've never made a 3 figure bet Anybody knows that only internet weasels such as yourself have big problems with Hollendorfer As for going backwards after a claim or purchase your other hero Ronnie is the KING But Remember PETA and Stronachs daughter got rid of him NYRA knuckled under the pressure Read something with credibility for a change 6 figure bettor hahahaha
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Josh is a piece of garbage just a loser and isn't he a Canadian how can he be in the good old U.S.A. with out a visa.s
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As a Bettor MR DG you've never made a 3 figure bet Anybody knows that only internet weasels such as yourself have big problems with Hollendorfer As for going backwards after a claim or purchase your other hero Ronnie is the KING But Remember PETA and Stronachs daughter got rid of him NYRA knuckled under the pressure Read something with credibility for a change 6 figure bettor hahahaha
Can both of you complete simpletons try again in English, I literally can't understand let alone follow your posts.
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I WOULD RATHER BET A SOLID BEARD HORSE THAN THESE INCONSISTENT CLOWN TRAINERS WITH MY CASH AT RISK. GAS UP AND GO BETTER THAN RUNNING ON EMPTY.
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I WOULD RATHER BET A SOLID BEARD HORSE THAN THESE INCONSISTENT CLOWN TRAINERS WITH MY CASH AT RISK. GAS UP AND GO BETTER THAN RUNNING ON EMPTY.
My man!
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saw josh most bigm sales
nice guy
good friend with one of my vets in Chicago
,,I think we have to move on
this is getting over played..
ray should just let it go,,
horses win and lose all the time ,and everyone has their special pre race formula/.
its time to go racing and may the best horse vet and trainer win tmbz1
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denerate screen name fits. you would rather cheat and run over someones cash than try to do it honest . Still waiting for proof of the six figure bets
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denerate screen name fits. you would rather cheat and run over someones cash than try to do it honest . Still waiting for proof of the six figure bets
Don't hold your breath, Dingbat. My ego isn't so fragile that I need to prove anything to you illiterate simpletons.
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6 figure bettor haha