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Title: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: bumby on March 23, 2024, 08:49:35 PM
Winning at 40+% clip.  Put him in the Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: SwankToliverA on March 23, 2024, 08:55:48 PM
Worked for Pelling
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: drink more beer on March 23, 2024, 09:06:38 PM
Ha ha another great trainer with the rocket fuel!!!!
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Cleanupindustry on March 23, 2024, 09:12:26 PM
Besim is aka tahnee camilleri aka monte gelrod. Everyone in horse business knows this but what does anyone do.  Nothing just keep letting these jerkoffs win and win and laugh and laugh.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: SwankToliverA on March 23, 2024, 09:34:04 PM
Besim is aka tahnee camilleri aka monte gelrod. Everyone in horse business knows this but what does anyone do.  Nothing just keep letting these jerkoffs win and win and laugh and laugh.
tmbz1
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: thesilentone on March 23, 2024, 09:36:57 PM
Besim is aka tahnee camilleri aka monte gelrod. Everyone in horse business knows this but what does anyone do.  Nothing just keep letting these jerkoffs win and win and laugh and laugh.
tmbz1

Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on March 23, 2024, 09:55:25 PM
Gelrod to soon be run out of the TB' business that was short lived... ngc3
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 23, 2024, 10:39:59 PM
Besim is aka tahnee camilleri aka monte gelrod. Everyone in horse business knows this but what does anyone do.  Nothing just keep letting these jerkoffs win and win and laugh and laugh.
The business is a fucking joke. Actually since there are so many beards they might as well not even list the trainer's name in the program, as it is fraudulent to post paper names when commissions know they are not actually the trainer.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Harness racer on March 23, 2024, 10:58:36 PM
If you aren’t on the inside or one of these owners chasing the next “hot” trainer, why would anyone invest one cent in harness racing?
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: The REAL Frank Petrelli on March 23, 2024, 11:49:23 PM
Gelrod to soon be run out of the TB' business that was short lived... ngc3
Doesn't matter. He's got plenty of cash from peddling his compounded gastro-guard and 3 part EPM liquid
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Wild bull on March 24, 2024, 03:39:42 PM
With a name like that shouldn't be be racing 🐫🐫🐫🐫
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 25, 2024, 12:18:06 PM
OR FLYING IN A PLANE
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Papillon on March 25, 2024, 12:40:48 PM
Gelrod to soon be run out of the TB' business that was short lived... ngc3

By Bill Finley

Parx-based trainer Monte Gelrod has been notified by the Horseracing Integrity and Welfare Unit (HIWU) that a horse he trains named Ratified (Constitution) tested positive for Cobalt after racing Feb. 19 at Parx. His suspension has been put on hold while HIWU awaits the results of a B sample test. If the B sample also shows the presence of Cobalt, Gelrod faces a suspension of up to two years.

Gelrod's positive was the second recorded at Parx in a short period of time. On Feb. 6, the Patricia Farro-trained Deplane (He's Had Enough) tested positive for the banned substance after winning a $7,500 claimer. As is the case with Gelrod, Farro has continued to train while HIWU awaits the results of the B sample.

Since HIWU took over the role of drug testing and issuing punishments against offending trainers, there have been three positives for Cobalt. The third trainer involved is Mario A. Dominguez, who had a horse test positive following a May 24 race, one that also took place at Parx. Dominguez's case has been resolved and he has received a two-year suspension.

Cobalt has been proven to stimulate the production of EPO and red blood cells in mammals which explains why some have turned to it as a potential performance-enhancer in horses. With greater blood cell production comes better endurance and decreased muscle fatigue.

Gelrod is a relative newcomer when it comes to Thoroughbred racing. Gelrod was a close associate of top Standardbred trainer Bill Robinson, who was banned at Woodbine Entertainment Group's tracks for more than 11
years for repeated drug violations. Gelrod trained Standardbreds on his own from 1991 to 2015 and won 676 races. According to a 2003 story in the Daily Racing Form, he received a five-year suspension in New Jersey after a fourth positive for milkshaking. He began training Thoroughbreds in 2023 and has amassed a career record of 4-for-20.

The case of Farro includes an unusual twist. The horse was claimed out of the race in which he tested positive by trainer Harold Wyner for owner John Fanelli and Longball Stables. HISA rules allow two business days for new owners to consider returning claimed horses to the previous connections after an alleged drug violation. Fanelli and Longball decided to keep the horse even though the horse itself is under a six-month suspension, the result of the Cobalt finding. The new owners ran him back Feb. 14, before the Cobalt positive was made public. He finished third in that race and the owners had to return the $4,928 they picked up in purse earnings because the horse should have been declared ineligible to run in the race.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Parked on March 25, 2024, 01:09:12 PM
High probability the usta would welcome his trainers license application
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 25, 2024, 04:33:03 PM
ever think gelrod doesnt give a fuck? maybe he is seeing what gets through the lab. they are all the same rules and labs. then he goes and tells his standardbred friends what goes through and what doesnt. maybe he test dummy for a bigger cause.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Papillon on March 25, 2024, 07:32:50 PM
ever think gelrod doesnt give a fuck? maybe he is seeing what gets through the lab. they are all the same rules and labs. then he goes and tells his standardbred friends what goes through and what doesnt. maybe he test dummy for a bigger cause.

now that is thinking outside the black box
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Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Wild bull on March 26, 2024, 05:50:18 AM
By Bill Finley

Parx-based trainer Monte Gelrod has been notified by the Horseracing Integrity and Welfare Unit (HIWU) that a horse he trains named Ratified (Constitution) tested positive for Cobalt after racing Feb. 19 at Parx. His suspension has been put on hold while HIWU awaits the results of a B sample test. If the B sample also shows the presence of Cobalt, Gelrod faces a suspension of up to two years.

Gelrod's positive was the second recorded at Parx in a short period of time. On Feb. 6, the Patricia Farro-trained Deplane (He's Had Enough) tested positive for the banned substance after winning a $7,500 claimer. As is the case with Gelrod, Farro has continued to train while HIWU awaits the results of the B sample.

Since HIWU took over the role of drug testing and issuing punishments against offending trainers, there have been three positives for Cobalt. The third trainer involved is Mario A. Dominguez, who had a horse test positive following a May 24 race, one that also took place at Parx. Dominguez's case has been resolved and he has received a two-year suspension.

Cobalt has been proven to stimulate the production of EPO and red blood cells in mammals which explains why some have turned to it as a potential performance-enhancer in horses. With greater blood cell production comes better endurance and decreased muscle fatigue.

Gelrod is a relative newcomer when it comes to Thoroughbred racing. Gelrod was a close associate of top Standardbred trainer Bill Robinson, who was banned at Woodbine Entertainment Group's tracks for more than 11
years for repeated drug violations. Gelrod trained Standardbreds on his own from 1991 to 2015 and won 676 races. According to a 2003 story in the Daily Racing Form, he received a five-year suspension in New Jersey after a fourth positive for milkshaking. He began training Thoroughbreds in 2023 and has amassed a career record of 4-for-20.

The case of Farro includes an unusual twist. The horse was claimed out of the race in which he tested positive by trainer Harold Wyner for owner John Fanelli and Longball Stables. HISA rules allow two business days for new owners to consider returning claimed horses to the previous connections after an alleged drug violation. Fanelli and Longball decided to keep the horse even though the horse itself is under a six-month suspension, the result of the Cobalt finding. The new owners ran him back Feb. 14, before the Cobalt positive was made public. He finished third in that race and the owners had to return the $4,928 they picked up in purse earnings because the horse should have been declared ineligible to run in the race.
that's ridiculous the new owners had to return the purse they would've had to come pry it from my cold dead hands
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 26, 2024, 12:33:02 PM
maybe instead of the owners having to return the purse money. have the purse money worked into  the trainers fine. trainers should have to return the purse. that may deter some.
trainer gets fine/trainer has to return purse money/ and has days.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on March 26, 2024, 12:57:08 PM
Yeah like that scum out here Sixto Rivas. Fucker split and we have to return all the monies.
Title: Re: Who is Besim Odza?
Post by: Harness racer on March 26, 2024, 02:48:32 PM
maybe instead of the owners having to return the purse money. have the purse money worked into  the trainers fine. trainers should have to return the purse. that may deter some.
trainer gets fine/trainer has to return purse money/ and has days.

Fuck those scumbag owners that chase the "hot" trainer of the month.  They know what the fuck is going on.
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