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Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $31,700
Total Handle: $17,333
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Saturday May 12th, 2018
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $38,900
Total Handle: $16,182
Saturday May 19th, 2018
Total Purse: $36,000
Total Handle: $16,067
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wow...HOW BAD IS THAT,,,JUST CLOSE
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Worse than a TRAVESTY
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Imagine if Sudbury was still around???
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AND THEY COME DOWN HERE AND GET OUR FREE CASH ALSO
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AND THEY COME DOWN HERE AND GET OUR FREE CASH ALSO
it works both ways
yours truly Ron Burke
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Canada.....they way America wishes it was.....
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Sunday May 27
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $38,900
Total Handle: $25,413
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $38,300
Total Handle: $26,488
Saturday May 26
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $38,400
Total Handle: $15,817
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $36,900
Total Handle: $26,729
Northside Downs
Total Purse: $9,370
Total Handle: $6,081
Monday May 21
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $26,280
Total Handle: $3,757
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Saturday June 9
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $6,400
Total Handle: $2,131
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $40,800
Total Handle: $27,080
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $39,700
Total Handle: $22,663
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $35,900
Total Handle: $28,916
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Saturday June 16
Charlottetown Driving Park
Total Purse: $83,750
Total Handle: $35,388
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $6,600
Total Handle: $2,284
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $57,400
Total Handle: $60,873
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $40,900
Total Handle: $25,797
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $32,100
Total Handle: $26,185
Northside Downs
Total Purse: $8,000
Total Handle: $6,838
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Would like to point out to wiggles that Horseplop is a fact base web site. tmbz1. Charlottetown had 2 stake races for 22 and 18 thousand that the horse people paid into, and the actual purses were $15450. Fact is CDP doubled there bet with comparison of purses to bet ratio. Wiggles this is not CNN get the facts straight before you go to print. 73cv.2
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GETTING TO LISTEN TO VANCE CALL THE RACES IS A GREAT REASON TO BET AND WATCH THE SHORES
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GETTING TO LISTEN TO VANCE CALL THE RACES IS A GREAT REASON TO BET AND WATCH THE SHORES
Just a Canadian ringo
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Sunday June 17
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $38,900
Total Handle: $23,763
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $41,500
Total Handle: $22,813
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $64,500
Total Handle: $67,975
Inverness Raceway
Total Purse: $7,750
Total Handle: $6,703
Summerside Raceway
Total Purse: $22,150
Total Handle: $23,636
11.wj
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Saturday June 23
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $5,700
Total Handle: $1,999
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $39,700
Total Handle: $19,389
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $38,700
Total Handle: $20,168
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $42,300
Total Handle: $28,499
Every week, wacking money away
11.wj
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Wiggles are you crying because you ain't getting any ngc3
Look whos talkin you piece of shit.
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Sure...the purses are higher than the handle........but they make it up selling poutine, hot dogs & beer.
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Sunday June 24
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $39,300
Total Handle: $19,374
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $47,700
Total Handle: $34,180
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Saturday June 30
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $41,300
Total Handle: $16,548
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $36,600
Total Handle: $21,184
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $39,100
Total Handle: $30,550
St Hugues
Total Purse: $13,100
Total Handle: $3,533
Sunday July 1st
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $46,400
Total Handle: $22,185
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $69,600
Total Handle: $23,620
Monday July 2nd
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $24,950
Total Handle: $7,739
11.mq
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A NOTE to Wiggles44
I will type this real slowly ....so you will be able to follow my explanation.
More than 15 years ago, the Ontario Government was looking for locations to house their slots.
Instead of having to construct / build locations...they decided to put their slots in racetracks, that were no longer as busy as they used to be, or in buildings on properties owned by the racetracks that were not being utilized.
Amongst those racetracks were small tracks like Hanover , Clinton , Kawartha , Hiawatha and Dresden. In the early days , the "rent" enabled them to race 2 or sometimes 3 days a week...at better than average purses for the calibre of horses they were racing.
This plan, which also included the large tracks..like London Woodbine Mohawk...was brought to an abrupt halt by the Government about 5 years ago.......putting a real strain on the breeders..as the halt came early in the year.
Negotiations went on for years and only recently was a new long term plan signed.
The small tracks only race once a week..over a much shorter season........cat ering mainly to cheaper horses...with the odd late closer...and annual visits of the Ontario Sires Stakes programs to beef up interest in getting people into buying babies.
The slots are still run out of the original properties at the small tracks........and the rent does cover most of the purse money....but only enough for 1 day of racing a week. The races are well attended at these tracks.......bett er crowds than Yonkers and Poconose...and its a fun day of racing
Find a new topic.....your welfare line is old
The other 3 tracks in your list are in New Brunswick and I wouldn't call racing for a $ 1200 purse welfae
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thanks for the history lesson tubs
I read 3 paragraphs really slow
and you explained how the welfare system works
the money horsemen put aside for promotion should assist them without slots then
11.wj
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Wow.... Going for a whole 1200 in Canadian....that means going for 800. Is that why you have horses in Canada with 20 wins in a year with 5000 on their card ngc3
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Wow.... Going for a whole 1200 in Canadian....that means going for 800. Is that why you have horses in Canada with 20 wins in a year with 5000 on their card ngc3
Exactly....sort of like Northfield.
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Saturday July 7
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $6,600
Total Handle: $2,355
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $68,400
Total Handle: $72,012
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $45,700
Total Handle: $30,352
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $36,900
Total Handle: $24,547
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $39,100
Total Handle: $34,280
11.wj
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Sunday July 8
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $144,350
Total Handle: $37,210
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $37,400
Total Handle: $26,725
11.bz
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This is a very interesting tread. Would only be fare to have one for USA tracks tmbz1. Think of all the money that could go to the illegals crossing the boarder
Think of all the money that could go to a-readin and a-writin programs for illiterate rednecks!
#MAGA #BiscuitsAndGravy #MyTruckIsWorthMoreThanMyHouse #Skillet
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Sunday July 8
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $144,350
Total Handle: $37,210
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $37,400
Total Handle: $26,725
11.bz
It reads like you will be doing these posts for another 19yrs. I found this link on another site:
https://ontarioracing.azureedge.net/site/ohr/media/ohr/2017/stakes%20schedule/funding-agreement-for-live-horse-racing_executed.pdf
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Saturday July 14
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $99,150
Total Handle: $88,443
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $49,500
Total Handle: $25,738
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,100
Total Handle: $22,589
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $33,900
Total Handle: $32,389
Pissing taxpayers money away every weekend
11.hdd
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Saturday July 14
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $99,150
Total Handle: $88,443
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $49,500
Total Handle: $25,738
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,100
Total Handle: $22,589
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $33,900
Total Handle: $32,389
Pissing taxpayers money away every weekend
11.hdd
Hows about providing us a list of all gov't frivolous spending of our taxes. I bet this falls at the bottom and would be considered immaterial ya dope.
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Hows about providing us a list of all gov't frivolous spending of our taxes. I bet this falls at the bottom and would be considered immaterial ya dope.
Since the government up there has signed a 19 year extension deal with the horse people (the deal actually adds from what they get now) you can look forward to wiggles44 giving updates for aprocomatly 19 years lol.
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Hows about providing us a list of all gov't frivolous spending of our taxes. I bet this falls at the bottom and would be considered immaterial ya dope.
Great argument. Government should waste money on something no one interested because it's not that much. That's how waste adds up.
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Sunday July 15
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $41,000
Total Handle: $24,972
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $38,800
Total Handle: $26,265
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $247,600
Total Handle: $124,820
11.rdit
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I'm sure Wiggles would be pleased to provide us with equivalent US welfare track handles and purses..........b ut other than M1........the tracks don't publish their wagering numbers....with their results.......... ....and attendance would be nice too !
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A little note for Jiggles.......... ..............$ 200, 000 of the Total purses at Georgian Downs was for 3 Gold Sires Stake races. IMO, this is where most of the slot infused money should be going...to promote breeding and owning Ontario Bred horses.
This is radically different from the monies paid out nightly at Yonkers and Poconose
I look forward to your next weeks revealing post.
I'm sure that the presence of Roger Huston, who will be announcing a few races at Grand River , Hanover and Leamington next weekend will be a big boost to the handle at all 3 tracks.
That would be a nice adventure for you Wiggles......foll owing The Voice to all 3 tracks.....and getting his autograph at all three destinations
A photo of you with Roger , posted on this site, would should that you ARE a real fan of harness racing
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Hey Jiggles, you were commenting on the lack of promotion at the Ontario "welfare" tracks
Check out this link...from a small track that usually only handles $ 25, 000 on a good Sunday afternoon...with crowds bigger than Yonkers
They offer a bus trip to bring fans in.....with a meal ticket and race program thrown in...for $ 25............... ....for the 35 mile trip
Has any of the big US welfare tracks ever done that ..for one of their big days ??? You know the answer
http://standardbredcanada.ca/news/7-16-18/excitement-vic-hayter-memorial.html
So now you have a choice. this Sunday.......if you take a trip to Ontario........a fun day at Clinton...or go to Leamington and meet The Voice
You would know the answer to this......What promotions are on this weekend at "your" welfare tracks ?
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hey fatso,
you keep eating
i'll keep posting the tracks that should be shut down
and the main reason why
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Looking forward to your next weeks stream of useless information
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If tubby is done eating, i'll post the "useless" info that taxpayers don't care about
Saturday July 21
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $282,900
Total Handle: $110,061
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $40,400
Total Handle: $25,454
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,400
Total Handle: $20,187
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $38,100
Total Handle: $35,765
Truro Raceway
Total Purse: $41,500
Total Handle: $16,142
Sunday July 22
Clinton Raceway
ALL RACES CANCELLED
BAD TRACK CONDITIONS DUE TO RAIN
saved some fucking money "taxpayers thank you"
Dresden Raceway
ALL RACES CANCELLED
BAD TRACK CONDITIONS DUE TO RAIN
saved some more fucking money "thank you"
Truro Raceway
Total Purse: $63,326
Total Handle: $14,628
education system taking a hit, roads are the shits, taxes going up
keep whacking fatso
11.wj
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They are draining the last pint of blood from these small tracks.
Why in God’s name would you have 5 of them racing on the same night (Saturday)?
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Pay by cash or check its the same thing ngc3
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Saturday July 28
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $6,450
Total Handle: $2,098
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $49,000
Total Handle: $26,867
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,100
Total Handle: $26,137
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $43,000
Total Handle: $39,815
Sunday July 29
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $70,500
Total Handle: $43,964
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $43,300
Total Handle: $32,145
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $256,800
Total Handle: $154,786
just fucking taxpayers, every weekend
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PA is no better ,,,, handle is a joke ,,,,, and they don’t change a thing,,,how do these guys keep their jobs
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Saturday August 4
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $100,200
Total Handle: $51,538
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,100
Total Handle: $29,170
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $51,700
Total Handle: $40,328
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Sunday August 5
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $100,850
Total Handle: $39,926
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $34,400
Total Handle: $23,347
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Monday August 6
Dresden Raceway
Total Purse: $56,100
Total Handle: $39,876
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $21,120
Total Handle: $4,519
Grand River Raceway
Total Purse: $565,855
Total Handle: $363,719
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Saturday August 11
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $82,350
Total Handle: $27,795
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $40,300
Total Handle: $37,053
Sunday August 12
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $40,400
Total Handle: $28,340
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $37,400
Total Handle: $33,323
...just pissing it away......
11.chrz
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Saturday August 18
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $48,100
Total Handle: $27,498
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $36,800
Total Handle: $24,321
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $101,750
Total Handle: $45,723
Sunday August 19
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $51,200
Total Handle: $29,283
Georgian Downs
Total Purse: $269,100
Total Handle: $141,680
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $37,700
Total Handle: $42,968
...wasting money....
...every weekend....
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Monticello Raceway
Tuesday August 21, 2018
Purses: 56,400
Handle: 538,908
A dump like Monticello handles more on a Tuesday than most of your tracks COMBINED for the whole week!!!
Please stop bragging about Canada and it's racing heritage. It's in the crapper. Not an opinion. FACT!! Numbers don't lie!!
62za.clp
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another week
another waste of money
Saturday August 25
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $159,450
Total Handle: $34,083
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,200
Total Handle: $21,495
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $40,000
Total Handle: $33,083
Sunday August 26
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $48,600
Total Handle: $27,349
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $38,000
Total Handle: $32,344
Rideau Carleton Raceway
Total Purse: $292,550
Total Handle: $224,634
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I'd expect a few of these tracks to be closed permanently in the next couple years as theres just no interest.
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Hey Rabbit
Before you post your weekly numbers..check out the crowd, and read the story. You should be able to read it , they have no words with more than 2 syllables.
This was Clintons' last Sunday of the meet. The slot parlours stay open 12 months a year...so "their rent" will go into a fund to provide purses for next year. And unlike Pokonose and other US slot tracks...the Ontario Government owns all slots in the Province of Ontario, and all the profits after operating expense go back into the Government bank account...to help pay for things like schools and hospitals and health care....NOT into Companies like Mohegan Sun.
WE don't pay health insurance , medications are provided for a small fee, we don't pay for Doctors or Surgeries or followup care at clinics.
Money from slots , higher gas , cigarette and alcohol prices ............reduc e our cost of living.
So keep on bashing small tracks and their purses........all have been providing space for the slots to operate for years.........whi ch was much cheaper than having to build their own buildings. And most of the ones you bash..now only race once a week..........tha t was the new deal created a couple of years ago. And when the purses seem way out of line to the handle..it is probably Ontario Sired Stake races....which are not paid from the handle...but from a Stake Fund.....funded by the slots, as part of a Government program to encourage the breeding farms and Buy Ontario race horses
Its time for breakfast..so I will have to leave you
Take a visit to Ontario some time.. Go to Mohawk on a big purse night...and be part of the crowds..they do get crowds many nights a year.
Go to Western Fair...London...o n a Friday....have one of the best buffets you have ever eaten..and enjoy the races. The buffet is usually sold out......and there will be a nice crowd watching the races
And then on the Sunday , stop by a track like Clinton and see how much fun racing can be
https://standardbredcanada.ca/ad/redirect/122224/t1607?url=http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/
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I have never posted any numbers on here, not even once. You'll have to address that post to someone else tmbz1
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"And unlike Pokonose and other US slot tracks...the Ontario Government owns all slots in the Province of Ontario"
I don't think Ontario owns any slots. The Ontario government just supplies licenses to private companies who then run the slots & pay the government a fee for the privilege. The Ontario government has broken the provence into areas & any slot facility in that area is called a bundle, those bundles were then licensed out to private companies. Those licences/bundles were bid on by the various private companies.
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Eyeinthesky Rabbit did not mention any numbers and I have to agree with him that a few tracks could be closing in the near future. You should have addressed this to wiggles 44 and Senor Dick.
Apologies....tryi ng to do it from memory
It should have been to wiggles44
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"And unlike Pokonose and other US slot tracks...the Ontario Government owns all slots in the Province of Ontario"
I don't think Ontario owns any slots. The Ontario government just supplies licenses to private companies who then run the slots & pay the government a fee for the privilege. The Ontario government has broken the provence into areas & any slot facility in that area is called a bundle, those bundles were then licensed out to private companies. Those licences/bundles were bid on by the various private companies.
this is correct
yours truly Great Canadian Gaming Corp
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COME NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE LUCKY TO HAVE 3 TRACKS RACING IN ONTARIO.
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Saturday September 1
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $29,000
Total Handle: $5,531
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $100,950
Total Handle: $26,719
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,400
Total Handle: $26,822
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $36,800
Total Handle: $38,104
The Track On 2
Total Purse: $30,200
Total Handle: $14,678
Sunday September 2
Clinton Raceway
Total Purse: $125,050
Total Handle: $65,522
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $38,900
Total Handle: $36,063
Rideau Carleton Raceway
Total Purse: $116,900
Total Handle: $176,079
The Track On 2
Total Purse: $35,300
Total Handle: $15,952
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Apologies....trying to do it from memory
It should have been to wiggles44
you keep driving hundreds of kilometers to count how many fucking hamburgers are eaten
and i'll keep posting the reasons why these shit holes should be closed, and the slot parlors left open
11.wj
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Saturday September 8
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $6,350
Total Handle: $2,020
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $46,500
Total Handle: $18,483
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $37,300
Total Handle: $21,845
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $39,800
Total Handle: $33,592
The Track On 2
Total Purse: $42,300
Total Handle: $13,708
Sunday September 9
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $38,300
Total Handle: $25,045
Keep fucking boys!
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wiggles44....your weakly newsflash left out an important slot less race track...The Ohsweken Fair.....who had 4 races on Saturday
Attendance 200.............. ..........probabl y more than Pokonose and Yonkers combined
Purses ........... $ 14,000
Handle "all Live"...$ 2068
If you feel the need to remind us of Canadian ytack numbers.....pleas e do not leave any tracks out.
Thank you
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wiggles44....your weakly newsflash left out an important slot less race track...The Ohsweken Fair.....who had 4 races on Saturday
Attendance 200.............. ..........probabl y more than Pokonose and Yonkers combined
Purses ........... $ 14,000
Handle "all Live"...$ 2068
If you feel the need to remind us of Canadian ytack numbers.....pleas e do not leave any tracks out.
Thank you
Hey tubby,
If u think giving out 14,000 in purses and getting back 2,000 for a handle is great than you’ve eaten too many onion rings
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Note to wiggles44..
"Hey tubby,
If u think giving out 14,000 in purses and getting back 2,000 for a handle is great than you’ve eaten too many onion rings"
Not many people are like you wiggles44....havi ng their IQ in their screen name
and PS
My brother is nicknamed Tubby............ ..........his screen name is PIEinthe sky
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Monday September 10
The Red Mile
Total Purse: $211,600
Total Handle: $0
they haven't even fucking raced yet dummy
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Note to wiggles44..
"Hey tubby,
If u think giving out 14,000 in purses and getting back 2,000 for a handle is great than you’ve eaten too many onion rings"
Not many people are like you wiggles44....havi ng their IQ in their screen name
and PS
My brother is nicknamed Tubby............ ..........his screen name is PIEinthe sky
you're still ignoring the facts fatso
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Saturday September 15
Hanover Raceway
Total Purse: $62,200
Total Handle: $311,116 $31,116
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $40,700
Total Handle: $21,062
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Sunday September 16
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $37,100
Total Handle: $30,438
11.zq
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Saturday September 22
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $5,650
Total Handle: $1,796
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $43,800
Total Handle: $23,590
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $40,000
Total Handle: $34,081
11.wj
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Saturday September 22
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $5,650
Total Handle: $1,796
Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse: $43,800
Total Handle: $23,590
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $40,000
Total Handle: $34,081
11.wj
Why don't you also post the ones in the green fuckface?
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Wiggles .... what is the average purse and handle at Mohawk ?
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Saturday September 29
Exhibition Park Raceway
Total Purse: $6,850
Total Handle: $1,642
Kawartha Downs
Total Purse: $40,000
Total Handle: $45,147
Sunday September 30
Leamington Raceway
Total Purse: $36,100
Total Handle: $29,038
Summerside Raceway
Total Purse: $118,517
Total Handle: $23,380
The Track On 2
Total Purse: $19,500
Total Handle: $4,848
11.wj