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Title: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: The Exporter on January 29, 2019, 07:45:32 AM
NYS Gaming commission rolled out it's plan for sports wagering in NY. It follows the current law, casinos only. It will be at least 2 years before the law can be modified to include other venues such as OTB's and racetracks.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: TTitans1 on January 29, 2019, 07:50:33 AM
So they can knock the racinos off before ever passing the law for them to have it. The state wants it all!
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: bestbetter on January 29, 2019, 07:51:53 AM
Apparently the Casinos gave deeper pockets...  tmbz1
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: Atthetrack7 on January 29, 2019, 07:52:47 AM
 Why would horsemen and track owners deserve any of it?
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: The Exporter on January 29, 2019, 08:10:47 AM
The state is all about the revenue. It recently floated the idea to OTBs that may want to give up taking horse action if, you keep losing money. At the same time, the shake -up at NYRA and the nod to expand NYRA bets, give you all you need to know, when quantifying it's direction and intentions.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: TTitans1 on January 29, 2019, 08:58:58 AM
I don`t blame them for pulling the pin on racing. Long overdue. Why the fuck should should horsemen be allowed to make money off of using class 1 narcotics? It`s a fucking joke really.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: augustaandy on January 29, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
NYS Gaming commission rolled out it's plan for sports wagering in NY. It follows the current law, casinos only. It will be at least 2 years before the law can be modified to include other venues such as OTB's and racetracks.


without on-line wagering the massive profits won't be there

who from downstate will drive upstate when they can go to the meadowlands instead?
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: Bernie Madoff on January 29, 2019, 09:31:41 AM

without on-line wagering the massive profits won't be there

who from downstate will drive upstate when they can go to the meadowlands instead?





I don't think 5% return on sports wagering translates to "massive profits".
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: The Exporter on January 29, 2019, 09:55:06 AM
No. It prolly will not be a windfall. But, the state is doing what it can to make the casinos perform at the level they budgeted for.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: Pull the Pocket on January 29, 2019, 10:06:32 AM
 Casino's are forward thinking, always changing itseld based on what's hot

 Race tracks are always spinning their wheels going around in circles

HIT IT BILLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghj5V5cUo1s

Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: comeonman on January 29, 2019, 10:11:55 AM
interesting
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: The Exporter on June 11, 2019, 06:09:48 PM
So, sports betting in New York has cleared the last hoop. The up-state casinos will all be taking sports wagers before the NFL season gets under way. The Legislature will prolly find a way to skirt the state constitution by defining where a bet is bet. The law states all bets must be placed at a casino. So, if you send a signal from your phone at your desk in Flushing , Queens to the server at the Rivers Casino in Schenectady, Is you bet palved in Flushing or Schenectady?
Kind of like the same BS they ran by the courts in 2001 when they legalized slots without a referendum by claiming all the spins were sent to servers in Schenectady servers tio the Lottery Commission and were considered "vidio lotteries", not slot machines .
 There is no reason they can't pull of the same BS and have internet wagering soon.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: PIGLAND on June 11, 2019, 06:26:38 PM
No. It prolly will not be a windfall. But, the state is doing what it can to make the casinos perform at the level they budgeted for.
how are scumnecktiys numpers? rivers cant be doing what they projected
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: The Exporter on June 11, 2019, 07:45:05 PM
how are scumnecktiys numpers? rivers cant be doing what they projected
No, they are not. But, they are doing ok. Actually performing better than maybe all others.
My fear is the Legislature will find a way to make on line wagering legal. Great for sports bettors. But, I am convinced it will render all horse racing irrelevant. There is way to many options for action now.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: harnessplop on June 11, 2019, 08:13:40 PM
Nj and pennsylavania rules
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: In front on June 12, 2019, 06:35:57 AM
NYS Gaming commission rolled out it's plan for sports wagering in NY. It follows the current law, casinos only. It will be at least 2 years before the law can be modified to include other venues such as OTB's and racetracks.

There is one track with sports betting Tioga
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: Joe 4 all on June 12, 2019, 06:46:52 AM
There is one track with sports betting Tioga

you are one dumb motherfuck, no track in new York has sports betting

only bookies, and their union is fighting hard to keep it that way
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: HornbyDuke on June 12, 2019, 10:34:59 AM
No, they are not. But, they are doing ok. Actually performing better than maybe all others.
My fear is the Legislature will find a way to make on line wagering legal. Great for sports bettors. But, I am convinced it will render all horse racing irrelevant. There is way to many options for action now.

This is sound analysis. Governor clearly wants to make the online option subject to constitutional amendment. This is a messy way to proceed and could take funny turns. Legislature wants the extra $ - it's not as much a windfall as someone earlier noted. But it's easy $ that comes into state coffers other than via tax.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Ny lawmakers have innate ability to f&$# things up (see proposal to give illegals drivers licenses)  let's see what transpires.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: Yonkers1 on June 12, 2019, 03:52:41 PM
you are one dumb motherfuck, no track in new York has sports betting

only bookies, and their union is fighting hard to keep it that way

Sorry Joe, but Gural wins again.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on June 12, 2019, 05:54:17 PM
No, they are not. But, they are doing ok. Actually performing better than maybe all others.
My fear is the Legislature will find a way to make on line wagering legal. Great for sports bettors. But, I am convinced it will render all horse racing irrelevant. There is way to many options for action now.

You do realize horse racing IS irrelevant, right?
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: jupiter on June 12, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
Get real!! They don't need us for anything! Sooner or later they're  going to take the money. I wish it wasn't going to happen but politicians are greedy bastards.
Title: Re: No Sports Betting at New York Racetracks
Post by: trottingstud on June 12, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
Tioga gets sports betting because they are one of the 4 upstate casinos. The only track currently with a full casino.
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