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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: whiptherabbit on July 22, 2018, 11:14:20 PM
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#1- How was he not 1-5 in there?
#2 How many more miles like that until hes on the shelf??
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Was that the fastest half mile in history?
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Just looked back to see runaway Devonshire Hanover fractions in 2006 were 25:2 for the 1/4 and then 51:2 for the half.
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G. Nap took a vacation after he cashed with a 16-1 in 4th at Harrah's...…. This is why he doesn't get invite to Meadowlands August 4th 73cv.2
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I guess 110K they paid last week for him might have been a bargain. How bad is the announcer with the race call. Show some enthusiasm.
Allard never lifted a finger the whole mile. Sad what they let these guys get away with.
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Horse was feeling good last night
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They will eat this fucker...... Mark my words!! He has issues that can be temporarily patched but the patch won't hold long? Like that Hurricane thing of McDermonts a few years back that he gave to Des to try.
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im sure we will see some more fast early times by this horse the question will be if he can sustain it against better horses . He beat a weak field to death sunday .
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The poor colt of Takters got his guts sucked out through nose chasing of that half.....poor Decoy will be awhile getting over chasing that one :P
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im sure we will see some more fast early times by this horse the question will be if he can sustain it against better horses . He beat a weak field to death sunday .
He is worthless.
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I have no idea what Allard does or uses to get these horses to improve so much, but I think the reason he buys a lot of them is because whatever it is, it will work on some of them and won't work on others.
Whether it is due to conformation or lung capacity or whatever, has anyone here ever been there when he physically checked out a horse at a sale? What he looks at?
Their tolerance to stimulants
That’s what I think he uses
My opinion
Along with other like PAT SHEPHERD 11.wp
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Their tolerance to stimulants
That’s what I think he uses
My opinion
Along with other like PAT SHEPHERD 11.wp
Remember when you call others a cheat
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Remember when you call others a cheat
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Funny 73cv.2
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That was unbelievable in the slop?? Announcer thought the timer was broke, Allard never moved.Next week backs through the field in .56 half.
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That was unbelievable in the slop?? Announcer thought the timer was broke, Allard never moved.Next week backs through the field in .56 half.
track is as fast if not faster when its sloppy
another Allard juice job--so what?
nobody should be impressed by fractions--get over yourselves
sub 120 fraction gets many excited ........strange
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track is as fast if not faster when its sloppy
another Allard juice job--so what?
nobody should be impressed by fractions--get over yourselves
sub 120 fraction gets many excited ........strange
NOT ONE EXTRA GUY WILL SHOW UP NEXT WEEK BECAUSE HE WAS SO FAST
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NOT ONE EXTRA GUY WILL SHOW UP NEXT WEEK BECAUSE HE WAS SO FAST
Calhoun had a horse in 1970
Just as fast ngc3
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Calhoun had a horse in 1970
Just as fast ngc3
FASTEST TRIP WAS ON BROOKLEDGE TRUCK
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That mile was huge. When I raced in the mud there that track was much slower. I'm not sure where you heard it's faster when sloppy.
the mile was juiced
it wasnt muddy
they scraped the tack it was lightning fast--not muddy-not a quagmire
Allard juices yet anotyher one--and you say it was a huge mile?
big fucking deal
obviously you are enamored by completely meaningless fractions
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When the rules don`t apply to you and you can use morphine and who knows what else, the horse will spark up a little bit!!!
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No morphine
Stimulants
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the mile was juiced
it wasnt muddy
they scraped the tack it was lightning fast--not muddy-not a quagmire
Allard juices yet anotyher one--and you say it was a huge mile?
big fucking deal
obviously you are enamored by completely meaningless fractions
Allard did everything that the prior connections stayed away from.....now Allard has an insane wooden mouthed pulling fucker who is worthless as a racehorse. Blais tried to correct him from getting hot.
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the mile was juiced
it wasnt muddy
they scraped the tack it was lightning fast--not muddy-not a quagmire
Allard juices yet anotyher one--and you say it was a huge mile?
big fucking deal
obviously you are enamored by completely meaningless fractions
Final time can be insignificant, but fractions are very meaningful. He didn't finish up the track like the horses that were sitting second and third in the race. This was the second fastest 1/2 in history and he kept going, all on his own, Allard never lifted a finger. You see 1:49 miles all the time but you don't see 51 halfs. The track was not rated fast and was not faster than it usually is.
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Just imagine the difference in conversation if the back half contained the insane fractions???
He was a runaway last year and as OC commented Blais tried to correct it with different tweaks and trying to race him from behind
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seems hypocritical to look at fractions as well
since everyone also stares at final quarters...where are the final quarter grand masters of analysis?
he came home slower than 30......yet that isnt mentioned anywhere
the point is--Allard's stuff worked wonders on this one--just another day at the ranch and no reason to get excited or even worthy of mention
ogling over the clock is childish
by the way--the track was lightning fast--a touch faster than standard
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good post mike hows things in buffalo
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seems hypocritical to look at fractions as well
since everyone also stares at final quarters...where are the final quarter grand masters of analysis?
he came home slower than 30......yet that isnt mentioned anywhere
the point is--Allard's stuff worked wonders on this one--just another day at the ranch and no reason to get excited or even worthy of mention
ogling over the clock is childish
by the way--the track was lightning fast--a touch faster than standard
There were no races that went faster than they normally would, and most were slower so not sure how you figure that the track was faster than normal. The last quarter is irrelevant in this case as he had a insurmountable lead and was geared down the last quarter. He probably could have gone 28 if he had to. He may come back next week and wilt on the lead but if you don't think that this performance is curious then I don't know what you're looking at.
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that high test doesnt work on all of them either.
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That mile was huge. When I raced in the mud there that track was much slower. I'm not sure where you heard it's faster when sloppy.
It plays slow and cuppy when sloppy unless they're out scraping.
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insane fractions considering the first half under full restraint .
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No morphine
Stimulants
Oxy is from the morphine family and that was swept under the table for him in PA and Canada.
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It’s the Wild, Wild West in Chester PA
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JUST A NORMAL OCCURANCE AT POCONO
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JUST A NORMAL OCCURANCE AT POCONO
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A year or two ago, I saw an Allard horse names Mussels from Brussels come first up at the Meadowlands and didn't look nor seem to want cover and by the turn he had collared the leader, went right by and won by 100. The thing I noticed was Allard could not hardly pull him up and he was still on the muscle past the wire and into the turn. If they went around again, he still would have won by 100. It reminded me of this horse somewhat. The horse raced well next time but then came down for quite a while. Months later he was in Canada with Allard but ended up with Roy and haven't seen that horse since but I also haven't seen a lot of Allard"s horses after a few hot suppers.
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Probably elephant juice or something very similar to it.
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Probably elephant juice or something very similar to it.
etorphine?
i thought that was a tranqulizer?
i could be wrong
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It is an elephant tq but has that effect on a horse that makes them a dead runaway that you can`t pull up. I doubt it`s that but it has the same effect.
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I'm pretty sure he was hitting the bike 1st half. Look at SA first half his right foot is back trying to avoid him hitting his leg. thats why he was out of control. Last 1/4 in 30 lol
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LUC BLAIS IS NO DUMMY,,,,,,IN A MONTH TELL ME HOW HB IS DOING
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I'm pretty sure he was hitting the bike 1st half. Look at SA first half his right foot is back trying to avoid him hitting his leg. thats why he was out of control. Last 1/4 in 30 lol
Very good eye, some will run off in terror when they wack the bike.
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etorphine?
i thought that was a tranqulizer?
i could be wrong
UNCLE SPEAKING NOW
SCoop,
Lissen Up To Uncle Time For You
First, Uncle tell you about Etrophine!!
1. "Elephant Juice" = "M99" = Etrophine. So Simple!!
2. Is part-synthetic opiod (the natural part comes from the Poppy plant)
3. It does not come from Elephants (Would be too easy!!)
4. Name come from fact that it is whoa-some powerful and ONLY legit purpose is to quickly immobilize large mammals like, well, elephants. Maybe also angry Hippopotomus?
5. Distribution is supposedly very narrow and when it is sent to a veterinarian, the Reversing/Antidote agent is also included.
6. Even at microscopic levels, It is incredibly LETHAL to humans. So much so that when Etrophine is distributed to a Veterinarian the HUMAN ANTIDOTE is also included.
Now, Uncle tell you about Etrophine and Race Horse..
1. ILLEGAL
2. No antidote exist
3. No dosage guidelines exist
FINALLY, So Why Use On Horse?
At some VERY SMALL BUT INDETERMINABLE dosage level, which will vary with each and every horse, Etrophine will have an incredibly strong stimulant effect. THAT'S WHY.
UNCLE is glad to help when UNCLE asked question UNCLE know answer to.
Now you can make good discussion on subject with other Big-Shot Harness Peoples at your fancy dining room table at the Hambo (while Uncle stuck outside after you bait and switch me) or at the USE HORSE SALE.
THIS HAS BEEN UNCLE SPEAKING
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A year or two ago, I saw an Allard horse names Mussels from Brussels come first up at the Meadowlands and didn't look nor seem to want cover and by the turn he had collared the leader, went right by and won by 100. The thing I noticed was Allard could not hardly pull him up and he was still on the muscle past the wire and into the turn. If they went around again, he still would have won by 100. It reminded me of this horse somewhat. The horse raced well next time but then came down for quite a while. Months later he was in Canada with Allard but ended up with Roy and haven't seen that horse since but I also haven't seen a lot of Allard"s horses after a few hot suppers.
Allard has been barred from the the Meadowlands the last few years..am I wrong here?
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Allard has been barred from the the Meadowlands the last few years..am I wrong here?
you are correct here
Gural banded Allard more than a couple of years ago
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UNCLE SPEAKING NOW
SCoop,
Lissen Up To Uncle Time For You
First, Uncle tell you about Etrophine!!
1. "Elephant Juice" = "M99" = Etrophine. So Simple!!
2. Is part-synthetic opiod (the natural part comes from the Poppy plant)
3. It does not come from Elephants (Would be too easy!!)
4. Name come from fact that it is whoa-some powerful and ONLY legit purpose is to quickly immobilize large mammals like, well, elephants. Maybe also angry Hippopotomus?
5. Distribution is supposedly very narrow and when it is sent to a veterinarian, the Reversing/Antidote agent is also included.
6. Even at microscopic levels, It is incredibly LETHAL to humans. So much so that when Etrophine is distributed to a Veterinarian the HUMAN ANTIDOTE is also included.
Now, Uncle tell you about Etrophine and Race Horse..
1. ILLEGAL
2. No antidote exist
3. No dosage guidelines exist
FINALLY, So Why Use On Horse?
At some VERY SMALL BUT INDETERMINABLE dosage level, which will vary with each and every horse, Etrophine will have an incredibly strong stimulant effect. THAT'S WHY.
UNCLE is glad to help when UNCLE asked question UNCLE know answer to.
Now you can make good discussion on subject with other Big-Shot Harness Peoples at your fancy dining room table at the Hambo (while Uncle stuck outside after you bait and switch me) or at the USE HORSE SALE.
THIS HAS BEEN UNCLE SPEAKING
Why would anyone deliberately use a detectable class 1/2 drug & especially someone that knows his horses are being tested up the ying yang? And since it is detectable & as some are saying, he uses, why no positives?
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Why would anyone deliberately use a detectable class 1/2 drug & especially someone that knows his horses are being tested up the ying yang? And since it is detectable & as some are saying, he uses, why no positives?
BECAUSE ITS NOT BEING USED IN THIS CASE?
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They have solutions that cloud testing . It's down to a science.
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They have solutions that cloud testing . It's down to a science.
So you believe Etrophine is commonly and used currently?
There are several good reasons to believe otherwise.
1. EPO is effective and relatively easier to max
2. So is Propantheline
3. Anabolic Steroids
Plus
Etrophine is Fucking deadly. It is 2,000 times more powerful than morphine. To take down an Elephant, the needle is effectively dipped. For a horse, you would use "a drop." You get a drop of it on a cut or scab, you're dead.
It makes me laugh when self proclaimed Big-time harness owners and long-ago owners offer simplistic proclamations like you.
what about Frog Juice?
Cobra Venom?
Immigrant migration?
Child, please
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Why would anyone deliberately use a detectable class 1/2 drug & especially someone that knows his horses are being tested up the ying yang? And since it is detectable & as some are saying, he uses, why no positives?
He gets plenty of positives but never has to answer to them! It was used plenty at different times in racing. It was dipped in the bottle, pulled back and pushed back into the bottle and only the residue left in the syringe was put into the horse. I didn`t say he is using that but he is using something very much like it along with a great breather and blood-builder.
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Did this horse race just out of a feed tub?
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He gets plenty of positives but never has to answer to them! It was used plenty at different times in racing. It was dipped in the bottle, pulled back and pushed back into the bottle and only the residue left in the syringe was put into the horse. I didn`t say he is using that but he is using something very much like it along with a great breather and blood-builder.
HE IS?
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He gets plenty of positives but never has to answer to them! It was used plenty at different times in racing. It was dipped in the bottle, pulled back and pushed back into the bottle and only the residue left in the syringe was put into the horse. I didn`t say he is using that but he is using something very much like it along with a great breather and blood-builder.
A Little Bit of A Little Bit?
I buy that.
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So you believe Etrophine is commonly and used currently?
There are several good reasons to believe otherwise.
1. EPO is effective and relatively easier to max
2. So is Propantheline
3. Anabolic Steroids
Plus
Etrophine is Fucking deadly. It is 2,000 times more powerful than morphine. To take down an Elephant, the needle is effectively dipped. For a horse, you would use "a drop." You get a drop of it on a cut or scab, you're dead.
It makes me laugh when self proclaimed Big-time harness owners and long-ago owners offer simplistic proclamations like you.
what about Frog Juice?
Cobra Venom?
Immigrant migration?
Child, please
I was referring to Allards love of pushing the limits of soda. Nowhere did I ever mention that drug Etrophine, don't know anything about it. You need to calm yourself....child please.
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BECAUSE ITS NOT BEING USED IN THIS CASE?
So what about the other hundreds of times Allard has been tested? No entrophine positives that I know of.
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So what about the other hundreds of times Allard has been tested? No entrophine positives that I know of.
WASNT USED THEN EITHER WOULD BE THE LOGICAL STEP HERE, NO?
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WASNT USED THEN EITHER WOULD BE THE LOGICAL STEP HERE, NO?
Yup.
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Yup.
he's innocent
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he's innocent
Unless proven guilty I agree.
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He uses a drug that metabolizes within the horses system to turn it into morphine.
Has two drenches, one for Canada, one for US. He does run alot of jugs thru them and general maintenance but when he is not allowed near them for at least 8 hr retention his results are dramatically different.
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he's innocent
How many times has he been let off for a magical environmental contamination when it comes to oxy?
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His girl Dolores got caught at Monticello yesterday.
THERE WAS A WHOLE THREAD.......... 73cv.2
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Allard has been barred from the the Meadowlands the last few years..am I wrong here?
I'm old, sorry it must have been Pocono but I know I have the horse right.
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Shoeing change ngc3
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State inspector caught her red handed loading up the two that were scratched.
SO WE WON'T BE SEEING ANY OF HER ENTRYS FOR AWHILE NOW?
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Dead horse at her barn this morning doesn't help.
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Hope it wasn't etrophine ngc3 ngc3 Calhoun would be shocked!!
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How many times has he been let off for a magical environmental contamination when it comes to oxy?
Likely around the same number of times Burk & Miller & a host of others have been let off for oxy & other class 1 or 2 positives & after reading on the PA & Revington issue only a higher power really knows.
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UNCLE SPEAKING NOW
SCoop,
Lissen Up To Uncle Time For You
First, Uncle tell you about Etrophine!!
1. "Elephant Juice" = "M99" = Etrophine. So Simple!!
2. Is part-synthetic opiod (the natural part comes from the Poppy plant)
3. It does not come from Elephants (Would be too easy!!)
4. Name come from fact that it is whoa-some powerful and ONLY legit purpose is to quickly immobilize large mammals like, well, elephants. Maybe also angry Hippopotomus?
5. Distribution is supposedly very narrow and when it is sent to a veterinarian, the Reversing/Antidote agent is also included.
6. Even at microscopic levels, It is incredibly LETHAL to humans. So much so that when Etrophine is distributed to a Veterinarian the HUMAN ANTIDOTE is also included.
Now, Uncle tell you about Etrophine and Race Horse..
1. ILLEGAL
2. No antidote exist
3. No dosage guidelines exist
FINALLY, So Why Use On Horse?
At some VERY SMALL BUT INDETERMINABLE dosage level, which will vary with each and every horse, Etrophine will have an incredibly strong stimulant effect. THAT'S WHY.
UNCLE is glad to help when UNCLE asked question UNCLE know answer to.
Now you can make good discussion on subject with other Big-Shot Harness Peoples at your fancy dining room table at the Hambo (while Uncle stuck outside after you bait and switch me) or at the USE HORSE SALE.
THIS HAS BEEN UNCLE SPEAKING
I believe it's spelled etorphine.