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Title: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 03, 2023, 11:08:13 AM
The latest coming out of hillbillville is Brandon bates brought a loaded gun to paddock at Hoosier last night to square up with a few of the loud mouth hillbilly drivers and security confiscated it and he is banded for the rest of his life at Hoosier. Maybe lucPark or Frankie d can give us the hole story. Trent told me he will never race in the state of Indiana again.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on September 03, 2023, 11:24:13 AM
Holy shit. If that's actually what happened I would think a punishment more than being banded in Indiana is forthcoming. I've seen some crazy stuff in my years at this game but I've never seen anyone bring a gun into the paddock.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on September 03, 2023, 11:28:47 AM
 HE WAS OFF HIS DRIVES LAST TWO DAYS .

I REALLY DONT KNOW,,HOPEFULLY ITS ALL BS
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BRANDON IS A REALLY GOOD GUY..ALWAYS FRIENDLY AND POLITE .

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: EPM on September 03, 2023, 12:28:44 PM
I think twice about hanging someone out to dry if they had a big iron on Thier hip
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Hay 4 sail on September 03, 2023, 01:26:30 PM
It's true. He was packing heat in his Cadillac parked in paddock.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Ruffolo Buster on September 03, 2023, 01:30:56 PM
This makes no sense because even if he is guilty of having a weapon there would certainly be a hearing of some sort.  Assuming that he is found guilty then penalties or punishment would be administered.  He is certainly entitled to some sort of hearing or an opportunity to explain the circumstances.   
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: The Thorn on September 03, 2023, 02:28:47 PM
Not that it matters but you mean incident ... If you are in the paddock with a gun for the second time you are not innocent.   11.wp 
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Hay 4 sail on September 03, 2023, 03:07:13 PM
   Lucpark I heard the exact same thing as you. I heard there sick of his shit they want him out. Ohio will take him with open arms.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 03, 2023, 03:40:39 PM
Brandon isn’t part of the top three guys click and he is gay. They always had it in for him and I’m not going to say the driver who filed a complaint with the judges, but it will come out sooner or later. Brandon never took any crap from Delong or trace. He don’t care and actually has a lot of talent. But they don’t like him because he is gay. He is banded for life
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Yonkers1A on September 03, 2023, 03:56:18 PM
HE WAS OFF HIS DRIVES LAST TWO DAYS .

I REALLY DONT KNOW,,HOPEFULLY ITS ALL BS
\

BRANDON IS A REALLY GOOD GUY..ALWAYS FRIENDLY AND POLITE .

 tmbz1

Is there any criminal you don’t like or think is a good Christian?

Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on September 03, 2023, 03:59:22 PM
Say it " Ain't SO", Rocco. That's your guy.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: London on September 03, 2023, 04:12:22 PM
Gun in paddock is illegal. Owning one is not..unless he brandished it..then he in big shit
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: HoppleBurns on September 03, 2023, 04:13:10 PM
They searched his truck people.  Second time it's happened for the dummy.   Legal carry, just not on the grounds per their rules.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 03, 2023, 04:31:13 PM
Gun in paddock is illegal. Owning one is not..unless he brandished it..then he in big shit
He never pulled the gun. It was in his vehicle. They don’t like him because he doesn’t kiss Delong or traces ass and because he’s gay. For about 2 years he was dating marky Ppool. They split up and he is married to some guy from Ohio.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: London on September 03, 2023, 04:36:14 PM
He never pulled the gun. It was in his vehicle. They don’t like him because he doesn’t kiss Delong or traces ass and because he’s gay. For about 2 years he was dating marky Ppool. They split up and he is married to some guy from Ohio.
well case seems weak if it wasnt on him..i do not know him...he as a legal case tho for defamation...shou ld be interesting.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on September 03, 2023, 04:45:48 PM
Is there any criminal you don’t like or think is a good Christian?


No
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on September 03, 2023, 05:04:22 PM
Say it " Ain't SO", Rocco. That's your guy.

You gotta stop drinking every fckin night …glen

That’s y u got no money to buy a horse ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 03, 2023, 05:06:24 PM
well case seems weak if it wasnt on him..i do not know him...he as a legal case tho for defamation...shou ld be interesting.
They found the gun when a certain driver filed a complaint with the judges after the races the other night saying Brandon threatened him. And naturally because the other driver is a management kiss ass and Brandon is gay, security searched his vehicle and found the loaded gun and banded him for life. The other drivers don’t like him because like I said, Brandon could kick anyone of their asses. It was the best way to get rid of him so the management suck ups all complain about Brandon being gay etc.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 03, 2023, 05:21:59 PM
You claim he's gay. He is five feet four inches tall and gay. He will kick nobody's ass.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: LUCPARK on September 03, 2023, 06:19:39 PM
got a call 20 minutes ago from brandon bates he wanted to clear the air

he was in drivers room 2 security guys pulled him out wanted to search his dodge pick up truck

after extensive search his gun was found in a concealed area not out in the open ,,not in the paddock

he has a permit to conceal and carry for the last 20 yrs in indiana and surrounding states ,,

brandon is astonished to believe he was suspended for 30 days ..

everyone has agendas everyone has persoanl motives

im, confused at to what he did wrong ...

anyways ..hes words ,hes  out for 30 days ...


PS

HES NOT GAY

AND ,,MY BORDERLINE FRIEND PAPPOOL IS NOT GAY JUST BALDING AND SLIGHTLY OVER WEIGHT ..JUST SAYIN

GOOD DAY ..

WHAT I POSTED  CAME SRAIGHT FROM BRANDONS MOUTH  HE WANTED ME TO POST IT...
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Winners Win on September 03, 2023, 09:43:10 PM
Something seems off here.   Indiana has constitutional carry.  I  believe private property has to ask you to remove it from the property and you have to refuse before it's an issue.  That is why the kid that saved all those lives was able to have a gun at a gun free mall.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 03, 2023, 10:55:46 PM
You claim he's gay. He is five feet four inches tall and gay. He will kick nobody's ass.
I’m telling you what I know. Part of lucPark story is right except he left out key points that Brandon in fact is a good guy but not well liked because he doesn’t take any bs and is very outspoken. He also is not suspended for 30 days. He is permanently barred forever as it stands right now. He is supposed to get his hearing within 30 days and that is what he is talking about a 30 day suspension. Luc also left out that supposedly Brandon threatened another driver who filed a complaint against him. The driver doesn’t like Brandon and Brandon doesn’t like the driver. Btw Brandon does in fact have a conceal and carry permit. This is a witch-hunt and totally bs because he is gay and always does seem to bitch at other drivers more then necessary. With that said I do like Brandon and hope that he can return soon but I’m being told by one of the leading drivers that it’s a permanent ban forever. 
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Ohracing on September 03, 2023, 11:53:32 PM
This is a private business they can ban him just because they want to no reason given. If they give a reason that could open up legal action. They dont need to give him a hearing. The racing commission would need to give a hearing to suspend him but Hoosier needs no reason. Northfield has done this to many horseman
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 03, 2023, 11:56:23 PM
This is a private business they can ban him just because they want to no reason given. If they give a reason that could open up legal action. They dont need to give him a hearing. The racing commission would need to give a hearing to suspend him but Hoosier needs no reason. Northfield has done this to many horseman
I believe you are correct
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Parked on September 04, 2023, 07:24:23 AM
Track management can ban anyone for any reason as the track is on private or in the case of Meadowlands, leased property. No hearing necessary. It is a business decision.  Having said that, New York and maybe in  other states, businesses have to post that legally licensed guns are allowed on their premises. 
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Hay 4 sail on September 04, 2023, 11:09:38 AM
 Trace Teatrick is the Law at Hoosier
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: London on September 04, 2023, 01:44:15 PM
Track management can ban anyone for any reason as the track is on private or in the case of Meadowlands, leased property. No hearing necessary. It is a business decision.  Having said that, New York and maybe in  other states, businesses have to post that legally licensed guns are allowed on their premises.
NY doesnt have a conceal carry..
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Yonkers1A on September 04, 2023, 05:05:42 PM
NY doesnt have a conceal carry..

Better check the laws, I have a concealed carry and I live in NY
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Larry Bird Boy on September 04, 2023, 09:52:10 PM
Track management can ban anyone for any reason as the track is on private or in the case of Meadowlands, leased property. No hearing necessary. It is a business decision.  Having said that, New York and maybe in  other states, businesses have to post that legally licensed guns are allowed on their premises.
I talked to my uncle today who is a licensed attorney in philly and he said your post is partially true however, with the casinos merging in with the track it opens up a very good legal debate. He said mostly because if the racetrack receives any funding from the state or government by the means of tax breaks or state money, then it is receiving funds from taxpayers and therefore is no longer private property and in fact could be public property. Just some good for thought. I have no clue but that’s what he told me. With that being said I hope Brandon hires a good lawyer and he is able to come back soon. I also agree with the other poster in this thread who said trace is the sheriff at Hoosier and Delong is the deputy. If they don’t like you or you have more talent than them which isn’t very much, then you’re out!!!
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 06, 2023, 12:24:47 AM
BIG TICKET BATES IS NOT BARRED FOR LIFE .
HE WILL GET A HEARING AND HAS A GUN PERMIT . HE MAY GET A 30 DAY SUSPENSION BECAUSE HE SPOKE HIS MIND TO THE CHOSEN ONES !!!!!
AS FOR GAY WHO CARES
CASHED MANY BIG TICKETS ON BATES
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Al from Anderson on September 06, 2023, 05:27:02 AM
I THOUGHT BATES WAS TAPPING THAT VET TECH CHICK WITH THE RED HAIR? HMM. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT HE WAS GROPED BY A VETERAN DRIVER - THE 1 WHO GOT MULTIPLE DWI AND CRASHED THRU A HOUSE. THAT DON'T MAKE HIM GAY, DOES IT?
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Calhoun on September 06, 2023, 06:20:34 AM
I THOUGHT BATES WAS TAPPING THAT VET TECH CHICK WITH THE RED HAIR? HMM. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT HE WAS GROPED BY A VETERAN DRIVER - THE 1 WHO GOT MULTIPLE DWI AND CRASHED THRU A HOUSE.

THAT DON'T MAKE HIM GAY, DOES IT?

Maybe a little
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: PineHurstPacer on September 06, 2023, 07:33:01 AM
I THOUGHT BATES WAS TAPPING THAT VET TECH CHICK WITH THE RED HAIR? HMM. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT HE WAS GROPED BY A VETERAN DRIVER - THE 1 WHO GOT MULTIPLE DWI AND CRASHED THRU A HOUSE. THAT DON'T MAKE HIM GAY, DOES IT?

the driver that was giving slot machines golden showers?
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 06, 2023, 08:52:59 AM
I THOUGHT BATES WAS TAPPING THAT VET TECH CHICK WITH THE RED HAIR? HMM. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT HE WAS GROPED BY A VETERAN DRIVER - THE 1 WHO GOT MULTIPLE DWI AND CRASHED THRU A HOUSE. THAT DON'T MAKE HIM GAY, DOES IT?
So he smokes pole instead of nibbling at the pink taco. No one cares about Alagna or Simon the pedophile
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: dinkadoo on September 06, 2023, 12:04:47 PM
I THOUGHT BATES WAS TAPPING THAT VET TECH CHICK WITH THE RED HAIR? HMM. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT HE WAS GROPED BY A VETERAN DRIVER - THE 1 WHO GOT MULTIPLE DWI AND CRASHED THRU A HOUSE. THAT DON'T MAKE HIM GAY, DOES IT?

Seinfeld would say -- not that's there anything wrong with that  ngc3
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Generation XYZ on September 06, 2023, 01:24:30 PM
I THOUGHT BATES WAS TAPPING THAT VET TECH CHICK WITH THE RED HAIR? HMM. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT HE WAS GROPED BY A VETERAN DRIVER - THE 1 WHO GOT MULTIPLE DWI AND CRASHED THRU A HOUSE. THAT DON'T MAKE HIM GAY, DOES IT?

Its not gay if he's pitching only if he's receiving.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: No passing lane 4U on September 06, 2023, 03:34:27 PM
Brandon isn’t part of the top three guys click and he is gay. They always had it in for him and I’m not going to say the driver who filed a complaint with the judges, but it will come out sooner or later. Brandon never took any crap from Delong or trace. He don’t care and actually has a lot of talent. But they don’t like him because he is gay. He is banded for life.    Larry your mama's got a wooden leg with the kickstand
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: No passing lane 4U on September 06, 2023, 03:35:38 PM
Brandon isn’t part of the top three guys click and he is gay. They always had it in for him and I’m not going to say the driver who filed a complaint with the judges, but it will come out sooner or later. Brandon never took any crap from Delong or trace. He don’t care and actually has a lot of talent. But they don’t like him because he is gay. He is banded for life
your mom  still got a wooden leg with the kickstand
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: No passing lane 4U on September 06, 2023, 03:38:44 PM
They searched his truck people.  Second time it's happened for the dummy.   Legal carry, just not on the grounds per their rules.
it was in his trunk you imbecile
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: hoosierboy on September 06, 2023, 06:48:44 PM
He better call Howard Taylor
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Generation XYZ on September 06, 2023, 07:58:43 PM
He better call Howard Taylor

He's only licensed in PA.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on September 06, 2023, 08:15:07 PM
Better call Harvey Specter
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Yonkers1A on September 06, 2023, 08:22:41 PM
Better call Harvey Specter

And Mike Ross
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Trottin kid on September 06, 2023, 10:42:16 PM
Nope he needs Donna Paulsen .... She would have dirt on who started the shit show !!!
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on September 07, 2023, 04:06:02 PM
ANYONE HAVE AN UPDATE ON BATES RETURNING TO HOOSIER?
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on September 07, 2023, 04:21:13 PM
Drinking, you fucking crack head. You are a goof, " Hey House come to Hoosier , I'll buy you dinner, which you never did cause one of those high  priced horses you own with 9 partners , LOST. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on September 07, 2023, 04:23:43 PM
Rocco ain't 5'4" tall with his high heels. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: Generation XYZ on September 07, 2023, 05:03:47 PM
Rocco ain't 5'4" tall with his high heels. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Heels and lifts.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 07, 2023, 09:32:50 PM
CALL 222- 2222
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: 3widetooearly on September 08, 2023, 08:10:55 AM
Bates is an arrogant prick. He has had run ins with everyone at that track. Drivers and trainers. The guy thinks he is the next coming of John Campbell. He is an over aggressive cowboy driving asshole who will drive your horse into the fucking ground. Just ask P’pool
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: PineHurstPacer on September 08, 2023, 09:21:17 AM
The drive he gave Sectionline Bigry at the Greenville fair would be enough to say no way in hell he ever drives I horse I am involved with.
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: PineHurstPacer on September 09, 2023, 04:24:01 PM
kinda surprised he only got 30 days

what I want to see though is which trainers continue to use him

pretty solid intel he wasn't a fan favorite in the driver's room before this

He may find himself parked out a bit more
Title: Re: Brandon Bates barred for life from Hoosier
Post by: wisha roder on September 11, 2023, 07:31:10 PM
You claim he's gay. He is five feet four inches tall and gay. He will kick nobody's ass.
lmao. A stiletto heal could be a rather deadly weapon...
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